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irishrx7 06-19-07 02:39 PM

need help on fitting Bee r limiter
 
been looking for instructins on how to wire up the bee R limiter. the car is running on a apexi Power Fc read somewhere that this requires some differnt wireing. has anyone fitted on of these to there FD that can help me out? thanks in advance:icon_tup:

this is the only info i can find but no help for FDs
http://www.takakaira.com/asp/templat...TtPqQqlnMokrNm

XxMerlinxX 06-19-07 03:37 PM

I thought the Power FC had a rev limiter built in?

airborne 06-19-07 03:38 PM

if you read the link this thing has the wonderful ability to shoot flames out of your exhaust.

but yes, the pfc can control the rev limit. look under settings, it's in there.

"What is REV LIMITER?
The unique REV LIMITER from Power Builder Bee Racing is a device where a driver can use to prevent a vehicle's engine from being over rev. All parameter adjustments on this device can be made on the fly from the driver's seat. This REV LIMITER is achieved by cutting off the ignition at a preset RPM limit, and by re-routing a fuel dump. An aural feedback of back fire popping sound from the exhaust muffler is the result followed by a fantastic visual of fire coming out from the exhaust muffler tip. This aural & visual feedback are very similar to those experienced in the fully race-tuned race cars .

Is it really safe to use REV LIMITER?
The rev limiter in the vehicle is controlled by the factory ECU by instructing the fuel pump to immediately stop the fuel supply to the engine. Such immediate forced fuel cut is not advisable if it happens frequently as it has damaging effects to the engine in the long run. On the other hand, with Power Builder Bee Racing's REV LIMITER, it actually cut off the engine ignition without stopping the fuel supply to the engine. With this function, over rev limit damage to the engine is prevented, and is a safer way in the long run when the engine is over revved"

irishrx7 06-19-07 03:46 PM

i know the power fc has a limiter. i got the bee r limiter of a mate for free. and im gonao fit it for 2 reason
1. see if it helps launchs
2. the odd flame here and there:rlaugh:
3. anti thieft. set it stupidly low so IF any one trys robbing my car they wont get very far and will make a hela lot of noise:lol:


so anyone know how to fit it?

fdeeznutz 06-19-07 04:41 PM

From site.
"The REV LIMITER uses the ground signal to cut off the ignition signal from the ECU. Since APEXi Power FC is a piggy back computer, and manipulates the original engine parameters' signals from the ECU before re-routing these modified signals to the vehicle individual engine components, a separate grounding signal is required from the APEXi Power FC"

Piggy back???? Thats pretty funny.

XxMerlinxX 06-19-07 06:16 PM

So basically, hook it up like you would if your car had a normal ecu. They obviously don't know what the hell they're talking about and I'd be wary of actually using that thing.

airborne 06-19-07 06:29 PM

however you phrase it the pfc *is not* a piggyback. it is a stand alone and completely replaces the stock ecu. i wouldn't mess with this thing, but good luck if you do.

irishrx7 06-20-07 08:01 AM

somebody has to know how you fit it? i dont wana here the its gona wreck your car thing, just how do i fit it?:icon_tup:

fdeeznutz 06-20-07 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by irishrx7 (Post 7058451)
i know the power fc has a limiter. i got the bee r limiter of a mate for free. and im gonao fit it for 2 reason
1. see if it helps launchs
2. the odd flame here and there:rlaugh:
3. anti thieft. set it stupidly low so IF any one trys robbing my car they wont get very far and will make a hela lot of noise:lol:


so anyone know how to fit it?

1. It won't help you launch, that is called a two-step.
2. You can get flames without the unit. My car spits them all the time.
3. THE POWER-FC already does this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

skir2222 06-20-07 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by fdeeznutz (Post 7060880)
1. It won't help you launch, that is called a two-step.
2. You can get flames without the unit. My car spits them all the time.
3. THE POWER-FC already does this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How does the power fc do this? please inform me...

XxMerlinxX 06-20-07 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by irishrx7 (Post 7060596)
somebody has to know how you fit it? i dont wana here the its gona wreck your car thing, just how do i fit it?:icon_tup:

So you're aware that the Power FC does the same thing, you just want to shoot fireballs out of the exhaust. You sir, are a fucking ricer.

irishrx7 06-21-07 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by XxMerlinxX (Post 7063219)
So you're aware that the Power FC does the same thing, you just want to shoot fireballs out of the exhaust. You sir, are a fucking ricer.

look man STFU its my car and ill do what ever the fuck i wana do. a just so you know it does help launches. it is a 2 step:wallbash: you conect it up to the hand break switch. i didnt ask for a big bitch and moan all i asked for was some hlp but didnt get any:icon_tdow

Davin 06-21-07 10:50 AM

welcome to the forum

hi, i am davin :-D

just hook it up like you normally would. i am thinking of getting the FJO injector computer thing and peripherals will just take over and control what they are intended to do

FD3S2005 06-21-07 04:05 PM

irish they are trying to help you from maybe a blown motor or from you doing something you may regret and they may sound cruel. but fire out the exhust isnt ricer unless it happens when your not even trying and going slow or something. i really dont believe it will help launches. IMO i would just stick with a pfc and if you want flames there is a thread somewhere that tells you how to set the pfc to do so.. your car, you do what you want, they just dont want to see another
BLOW MOTOR thread

CantGoStraight 06-22-07 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by fdeeznutz (Post 7058647)
From site.
"The REV LIMITER uses the ground signal to cut off the ignition signal from the ECU. Since APEXi Power FC is a piggy back computer, and manipulates the original engine parameters' signals from the ECU before re-routing these modified signals to the vehicle individual engine components, a separate grounding signal is required from the APEXi Power FC"

Piggy back???? Thats pretty funny.

WTF are you talking about. The PFC is "NOT" a piggy back computer.

fdeeznutz 06-22-07 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by CantGoStraight (Post 7068458)
WTF are you talking about. The PFC is "NOT" a piggy back computer.

I am well aware of that, hence the question marks after piggy-back. I also noted that it was funny because the website didn't even know it.

p00shy 02-18-14 05:20 PM

Has anyone successfully hooked up the Bee-R limiter with a power FC?

Bee-R is an ignition cut which is safer than i fuel cut is what im getting so far from this.

RX7Zamboni 02-18-14 06:50 PM

i rember reading some where that someone used one of thes and blew his motor i would becareful using this

SA3R 02-18-14 08:28 PM

Start the poor RX-7 up from dead cold, first thing in the morning.

Instead of letting it idle to warm up, punch the throttle wide open to the limiter while it's still on its cold start enrichment choke map.

If you have a straight thru muffler, you'll see some fire and some pops and bangs. And it will be just as hard on your engine as the BEE R limiter, but cost you nothing ;)


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