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three sevens 04-19-06 07:46 PM

mazdaspeed shifter
 
Ok, so I've been hot on the trail of buying a short shifter. I've searched and read, searched and read and even searched and read. Conclusion, I want a mazdaspeed short shifter. So I start looking to buy a new one and I find that SR motorsports has a few left. I don't mind paying more for a good product, but they want $399. I cant find anyplace else to compare prices with. Does anyone know If this is the going rate for one? Seems high, but if this is what they cost then so be it!

Dean.

RX7JCHIII 04-19-06 07:51 PM

http://www.rx7store.net/product_p/mazdashortshift.htm

good choice....not mazda speed but a replica

IRPerformance 04-19-06 08:45 PM

I ran the mazdaspeed for a while and didn't like it. I didn't like how it sat the shifter up so high. I later switched to a b&m

GoodfellaFD3S 04-19-06 08:51 PM

I have run this for 2 years and love it, nice smooth shifts with no notchiness :)

http://www.gothamracing.com/catalog/...roducts_id=747

Riccardo 04-20-06 02:16 AM

Any rattling noise Goodfellas ?

Quickfini 04-20-06 03:17 AM


Originally Posted by Rotary Experiment Seven
I ran the mazdaspeed for a while and didn't like it. I didn't like how it sat the shifter up so high. I later switched to a b&m

damn, my friends b/m and my mazdaspeed both sit at the same height i think. No problems here.

FDNewbie 04-20-06 03:34 AM

My good man Dean :wave:

That's the real price... given that Mazdaspeed sells it (directly) for over $300, + Japanese domestic tax, shipping, misc fees, and tacking on a profit margin. It's a bit overpriced, but not by much.

BUT, I can help ya out w/ it no prob for well under that price, and brand spankin new. PM me if you're interested. It's the least I can do for your patience w/ me :)

~Ramy

MakoRacing 04-20-06 05:09 AM


Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
I have run this for 2 years and love it, nice smooth shifts with no notchiness :)

http://www.gothamracing.com/catalog/...roducts_id=747

Ive had the same shifter for almost 2 years as well and love it

Sgtblue 04-20-06 05:35 AM

FWIW, I think MazdaSpeed(replica), Pettit and rx7store....are all from the same manufacturer. Either one, or Ramy's would be a good choice. I've got a Pettit SS and really like it. Materials and machining seem to be first rate and the fit was perfect. Even came with a new bushings, paper gasket and of course longer bolts. Very happy. No rattles and it's about a 50% shorter throw.

GoodfellaFD3S 04-20-06 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by Riccardo
Any rattling noise Goodfellas ?

Not even once :)

Mahjik 04-20-06 09:45 AM

I have the RX7Store shifter. It is the same as the Pettit/Mazdaspeed one (as the instruction sheet I received was even the Pettit instruction sheet).

It reduces the shift much more than the B&M shifters. The B&M are about a 30% reduction, the Mazdaspeed and it's replicas are about 60%. For some people, that may be too much reduction. If you want just a little reduction in shifting, get the B&M. If you want about the most you can get, the Mazdaspeed and replicas would be the one to choose.

Sonny 04-20-06 10:19 AM

60% reduction? Daaamn. My B&M feels like a "short throw"...can't imagine it getting much shorter than that.

I'm happy with the B&M. It adds some bulk to the top of the shifter housing, so there is less room for powerplant frame misalignment. I think this is pretty common among all short shifters though.

Sonny

yuichiror 04-20-06 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
I have run this for 2 years and love it, nice smooth shifts with no notchiness :)

http://www.gothamracing.com/catalog/...roducts_id=747

For $99!!!!! Damn, I know what my next mod is.....

Sgtblue 04-20-06 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by Sonny
60% reduction? Daaamn. My B&M feels like a "short throw"...can't imagine it getting much shorter than that.

It takes a little getting used to. But once you do, it's great.

Originally Posted by Sonny
I'm happy with the B&M. It adds some bulk to the top of the shifter housing, so there is less room for powerplant frame misalignment. I think this is pretty common among all short shifters though.Sonny

Actually the construction of the Mazdaspeed/Pettit/rx7store shifter is nearly idential to OEM. Just a spacer to raise the pivot point and a longer shaft to the lower bushing. (and of course the knob end of the shaft is a little shorter) :)

Kento 04-20-06 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by Rotary Experiment Seven
I ran the mazdaspeed for a while and didn't like it. I didn't like how it sat the shifter up so high. I later switched to a b&m

Um...are you sure the shifter you used was a Mazdaspeed unit? The Mazdaspeed lever spindle is slightly shorter above the ball pivot, so the lever height is the same as stock above the console. The added length is below the ball pivot, where the additional leverage comes from.

Kento 04-20-06 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by Mahjik
I have the RX7Store shifter. It is the same as the Pettit/Mazdaspeed one (as the instruction sheet I received was even the Pettit instruction sheet).

It reduces the shift much more than the B&M shifters. The B&M are about a 30% reduction, the Mazdaspeed and it's replicas are about 60%. For some people, that may be too much reduction. If you want just a little reduction in shifting, get the B&M. If you want about the most you can get, the Mazdaspeed and replicas would be the one to choose.

Are you sure about that 50% difference in ratio? I drove a friend's FD with a B&M (that's what he said was in it, no way of checking), and his shift throw felt basically the same, if not a tad shorter.

FDNewbie 04-20-06 01:47 PM

Yea I always thought the B&M was the shortest throw?? And is the Mazdaspeed less notchy? Cuz (although I like it), I thought the B&M was the most notchy as well.

~Ramy

three sevens 04-20-06 04:19 PM

Even though I searched and made a decision on a shifter, the info in this thread has been extremely useful. Looks like Ramy has the hook up on the mazdaspeed one.

Dean

Mahjik 04-20-06 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by Kento
Are you sure about that 50% difference in ratio? I drove a friend's FD with a B&M (that's what he said was in it, no way of checking), and his shift throw felt basically the same, if not a tad shorter.

While the numbers are the "marketing numbers" for the reduction percentage, I've used one of the B&M copies and it was not as short as the Mazdaspeed copy. 50% less? I'm not sure, but there was a very noticeable difference.

FDNewbie 04-20-06 06:22 PM

Holy smokes. So essentially the Mazdaspeed shifter doesn't move at all when shifting, huh? :rofl: I'm just having a hard time picturing something shorter than the B&M...

Mahjik 04-20-06 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by FDNewbie
Holy smokes. So essentially the Mazdaspeed shifter doesn't move at all when shifting, huh? :rofl: I'm just having a hard time picturing something shorter than the B&M...

It literally just clicks from gear to gear. When I first installed it, I was not happy with it. After some track usage, I really like it. The best part is that fact that it didn't increase the effort at the same time.

I recently put a B&M short shifter on my father's C5 Z06. The throws are short, but the effort is also increased. I was very unhappy with it.

FDNewbie 04-20-06 06:52 PM

So the MS is super short but smooth... and the B&M is short and notchy (hence the effort). Hmm...might hafta back outta this deal and keep the MS shifter for myself :D (I'm kidding Dean ;))

Thanks for the 411 Mahjik.

~Ramy

Prince6599 04-20-06 09:43 PM

I ordered the authentic for 285.00 from rotary performance Authentic Mazdaspeed... shifts superbly smooth and short.... I highly recomend

Larz 04-20-06 10:48 PM

The stock shift is not like rowing a boat. The B&M cuts it down even further. I went with B&M since the others shorten it too much. And I got it at a discount where I work. Just be sure to order a new plastic cup that goes at the botttom.

FDNewbie 04-20-06 11:24 PM

Since we're on the topic, has anyone noticed that w/ a shorter throw, it's easier to miss 5th and hit 3rd?

KeloidJonesJr. 04-20-06 11:28 PM

Did they ever make one for FD from C's?

FDNewbie 04-20-06 11:32 PM


Originally Posted by eatmyclutch
Did they ever make one for FD from C's?

Yes...I don't know if C's shortshifters for the FD are discontinued or not, but they're hard to find (but still doable)

~Ramy

KeloidJonesJr. 04-20-06 11:35 PM

Damn,you have alot of posts. Need to catchs up.

GoodfellaFD3S 04-21-06 12:03 AM


Originally Posted by FDNewbie
Since we're on the topic, has anyone noticed that w/ a shorter throw, it's easier to miss 5th and hit 3rd?

Nope. I have a freshly rebuilt trans which I am sure helps, but with my Mighty Gotham Racing Super Sports Shifter I am invincible :djcelebra

FDNewbie 04-21-06 12:17 AM

:rofl:

Kento 04-21-06 01:14 AM


Originally Posted by FDNewbie
Since we're on the topic, has anyone noticed that w/ a shorter throw, it's easier to miss 5th and hit 3rd?

You mean miss 3rd and hit 5th? Not for me. If anything, I think it makes it more difficult. The Mazdaspeed SS has a positive, yet smooth feel.

FDNewbie 04-21-06 01:20 AM

Kento...my fault...you're right. I meant going for 3rd, missing, and finding myself in 5th (at which point, coincidentally, I smell clutch? :dunno: ) I dunno...I've had to keep it mind to keep it left a bit in order to land it in 3rd. And this is only when I'm doing a WOT run btw. And my 5th gear synchro is broken (it only lasted about a year).

EDIT: What I confused was...when I'm going into 5th (also during WOT runs) it grinds...I gotta put a good bit of effort to push the shifter ALL the way to the right to get it into 5th (vs. before w/ the stock shifter, where I could just aim for the top right corner and hit 5th every time). Consequently, my 4th to 5th shifts are quite slow...

Sgtblue 04-21-06 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by Kento
....If anything, I think it makes it more difficult. The Mazdaspeed SS has a positive, yet smooth feel.

Yep^ it would be like missing 4th and accidentally getting reverse. It just doesn't happen.

Kento 04-21-06 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by FDNewbie
Kento...my fault...you're right. I meant going for 3rd, missing, and finding myself in 5th (at which point, coincidentally, I smell clutch? :dunno: ) I dunno...I've had to keep it mind to keep it left a bit in order to land it in 3rd. And this is only when I'm doing a WOT run btw. And my 5th gear synchro is broken (it only lasted about a year).

Not sure which shifter you're using, but one technique I've found that helps avoid missed shifts is to put most of your grip (and force) on the side of the shift knob. That way you're able to guide the direction of your shift lever movement/force without spending too much attention on it. It's a lot easier to guide the direction of the lever through the shift linkage pattern from the side than it is the top.

Mahjik 04-21-06 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by Kento
Not sure which shifter you're using, but one technique I've found that helps avoid missed shifts is to put most of your grip (and force) on the side of the shift knob. That way you're able to guide the direction of your shift lever movement/force without spending too much attention on it. It's a lot easier to guide the direction of the lever through the shift linkage pattern from the side than it is the top.

I agree. I never had any problems missing shifts with the stock shifter when "properly" holding the shift knob. ;)

IMO, people shouldn't look to a SS to help them stop missing shifts. If you are doing it wrong, you'll have the same problem with a SS as well.

driFDer 04-21-06 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by FDNewbie
Consequently, my 4th to 5th shifts are quite slow...

Then again how often do go over 160, well it is you Ramy so nevermind.

FDNewbie 04-21-06 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by Kento
Not sure which shifter you're using, but one technique I've found that helps avoid missed shifts is to put most of your grip (and force) on the side of the shift knob. That way you're able to guide the direction of your shift lever movement/force without spending too much attention on it. It's a lot easier to guide the direction of the lever through the shift linkage pattern from the side than it is the top.

Hmm...good point. Yea I usually try grabbing it from the top (hence why I like the round spherical knobs). I'll give that a shot (when I get my car back). Thanks for the tip.

Oh and I'm using a B&M.


Originally Posted by Mahjik
I agree. I never had any problems missing shifts with the stock shifter when "properly" holding the shift knob. ;)

IMO, people shouldn't look to a SS to help them stop missing shifts. If you are doing it wrong, you'll have the same problem with a SS as well.

What can I say Mahjik? I'm a noob :D But I must say, I got just a wee bit of ego, ever since Steve Kan complimented my shifting :D (I got lucky that night and hit 3rd and 5th w/o any problems).


Originally Posted by driFDer
Then again how often do go over 160, well it is you Ramy so nevermind.

Dude that's what I live for. I see ppl mention on the forum things about "oh I hit 150 once." It bewilders me. Practically EVERY time I take my car out I see 150. It's a "normal" speed for me now. And even scarier how ppl (who own other cars) brag about reaching a top speed close to 150, when that's about where my 5th gear begins... God I love this car :D

~Ramy

Sgtblue 04-21-06 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by Mahjik
IMO, people shouldn't look to a SS to help them stop missing shifts. If you are doing it wrong, you'll have the same problem with a SS as well.

Well, not sure about "technique", but then I never had any problems missing shifts either. Still, since getting the Pettit SS, I have to consciously "think" about hitting 5th gear and can't imagine getting it on accident. The only qualification is that I don't track the car. Maybe that's different. If someone does have a problem, I gotta think it might help. At least as much as the upgraded "shift select spindle" that Mazda sold.


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