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d1rx7 02-17-08 05:36 AM

mazdaspeed ppf install
 
just had some spare time so i thought i would swap my ppf with the mazdaspeed one that i had lieing around :cool:

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3015/img2234ik1.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8159/img2235pe3.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7115/img2241ew5.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7352/img2242hi2.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6854/img2245ji6.jpg

R-R-Rx7 02-17-08 12:26 PM

noticed any differences?

d1rx7 02-17-08 12:39 PM

na the car not running just yet. my mate has one and he rekons he can tell the difference. it looks the same and feels the same to me, so hope there is a diff.

R-R-Rx7 02-17-08 01:50 PM

i think its just more solid to prevent the bending..

the_saint 02-18-08 08:28 PM

How was the install? time?

Gorilla RE 02-18-08 09:03 PM

Where did you buy this from?

SLOASFK 02-27-08 12:53 PM

You bought this from SR, didn't you?

djseven 02-27-08 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by SLOASFK (Post 7916753)
You bought this from SR, didn't you?

In the pics I can see the actual mazdaspeed plate on it. However, in my opinion the Mazdaspeed PPF is just a powdercoated OEM power plant frame but once again, that is just my perosonal opinion. Looks nice though :)

zinx 02-27-08 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by djseven (Post 7916880)
In the pics I can see the actual mazdaspeed plate on it. However, in my opinion the Mazdaspeed PPF is just a powdercoated OEM power plant frame but once again, that is just my perosonal opinion. Looks nice though :)



Its looks like that to me too. I'm wondering what the actual difference is. It doesn't seem any beefier.

I haven't had any problems with the stock frame, even after a ton of 1.5x 60's.

Upgrayedd 02-27-08 02:45 PM

People who have bought it haven't noticed any difference in "strength" of the construction. But supposedly it's cryo treated which is supposed to strengthen it. Construction appears to be identical according to those who compare them. Most importantly the common fail points are not improved in any way

djseven 02-27-08 02:52 PM

I have seen a couple over the years and the welds are the same but I cant comment on the cryo treatment.

djseven 02-27-08 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by zinx (Post 7917003)
Its looks like that to me too. I'm wondering what the actual difference is. It doesn't seem any beefier.

I haven't had any problems with the stock frame, even after a ton of 1.5x 60's.



130mph traps, you arent making enough power to shatter a stock one:lol: Just kidding, I have always thought you were one of the few able to put down good times without a shit ton of power.

d1rx7 02-27-08 03:07 PM

i bought it off a mate who hade it, not sure where he got it from.


took bout 2hours to put in. thats taking off the exhaust, and taking out the old ppf, put the new one in and exhaust back on, by myself.

i will let everyone know what i think when i get the car going, its just ment to be stonger so souldnt really feel alot differnt than the stock one.

d1rx7 02-27-08 03:09 PM

allso i would just do what rich did on here, he got his dip in some shit, hopefully he will jump in. made his stock one 200x as strong.

SLOASFK 02-27-08 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by djseven (Post 7916880)
In the pics I can see the actual mazdaspeed plate on it. However, in my opinion the Mazdaspeed PPF is just a powdercoated OEM power plant frame but once again, that is just my perosonal opinion. Looks nice though :)

ah you're right. I totally missed that :)

All this time I thought the Mazdaspeed one was supposed to be a lot beefier and different looking.


Originally Posted by d1rx7 (Post 7917332)
allso i would just do what rich did on here, he got his dip in some shit, hopefully he will jump in. made his stock one 200x as strong.

I found this post from Rich posted a long time ago. I'll have to ask him how his PPF is doing now.


Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S (Post 3500921)
I took it to a cryo facility. There is a special machine which drops the temp down to something like -300 degrees, then slowly brings it back up to room temp. As I understand it, the process aligns the molecules in the metal in rows and columns, vs the standard unorganized mess. This makes the metal stronger, more resilient, etc.

www.cryoscience.com is a good link to check out.

Rich


Julian 02-28-08 02:23 PM

I believe the MS PPF is the same steel thickness and design of the stock item, thus same weight; however, the steel used is of a higher strength alloy steel (i.e Heat Treated not cryo treated). The resulting piece will have the same stiffness as orginal part just will take more load before breaking.

s1mpsons 12-16-09 04:02 PM

I tried to put a fresh locking nut on this PPF stud where I was missing a nut, and the stud just spins freely. Is something broken or is this actually a nut with a backing that I need to put a wrench on?
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w...s/photo-33.jpg

catch-22 12-16-09 04:08 PM

There is a thin metal plate on top of the diff that loosely holds the studs in place. My guess is that yours has somehow stripped out.

catch-22 12-16-09 04:11 PM

Also, why haven't more people taken the stock one out and welded more support in there?

s1mpsons 12-16-09 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by catch-22 (Post 9683507)
There is a thin metal plate on top of the diff that loosely holds the studs in place. My guess is that yours has somehow stripped out.

:O

What do I do?!

s1mpsons 12-16-09 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by catch-22 (Post 9683516)
Also, why haven't more people taken the stock one out and welded more support in there?

I would be down to do this. I found this visual aid. Anymore floating around so I now where else to reinforce?

https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...hmentid=167100

Force13B 12-16-09 05:19 PM

^lol i see a problem with that dif

Dudemaaanownsanrx7 12-16-09 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by catch-22 (Post 9683516)
Also, why haven't more people taken the stock one out and welded more support in there?

That's what I did with mine. I just followed all the cracks in the stock one and then reinforced them. I Then added a tranny brace and solid differential mounts. The whole thing is rigid as can be now. No movement or slop just solid power delivery and smooth shifting. Been holding up much better even though I'm putting down a good 200hp more then before. If the ppf ever breaks again, I'll just take it down, re-weld it and strengthen it where it broke that time.

bajaman 12-16-09 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by Force13B (Post 9683678)
^lol i see a problem with that dif


BIG problem! :nod:

JamesVaughn3rd 12-16-09 09:27 PM

Ha by the looks of that pic I'm not sure that brace is a good idea....


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