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iceman4357 06-19-04 12:31 PM

It may be blown :(
 
Well, i had a post yesterday, and i thought it was fixed, but it wasnt. I found a hose that popped off, and when i put it back on the car does run better. I have a stock port, intake, dp,mp, PFS. When im at idle(650-700) i only have about 12.5 vac. You guys think its blown? I just got the mazda reman, and they intsalled it. I only have about 6k miles on it so i should have a warranty. Im going to have to take off all of my mods and put it back to stock. When it is at idle it does shake a little, sounds like its missing on one of the plugs. I got 4 new ones and am going to put them in hoping for a miracle. I already checked the map sensor hose and its ok. I think when im doing my plugs i will check all the other hoses. Any suggestions would greatly be appreciated.

Thanks,
Eric

iceman4357 06-19-04 01:25 PM

anyone got any suggestions?

WaLieN 06-19-04 02:56 PM

Before you go and splurge all that time on removing all your mods, do a compression check first to verify that it isn't a vaccum problem.

GoodfellaFD3S 06-19-04 03:57 PM

Does the needle on the vacuum gauge shake at idle? Do you have very little power at low rpms? What does the exhaust note sound like at idle? irregular?

BigIslandSevens 06-19-04 04:25 PM

Suggestion # 1: don't ever take it to Mazda again.

I would not be suprised if they left a few vaccum lines unhooked or mis- connected.

I just had a FD in the shop that Mazda just worked on ( Same thing installed a reman.) And they decided the car would run better without the Vaccum tank and any of the Check valves. Plus a few just open to God and everyone.

Call me sceptical but i doubt they did it correctly.
What is the distance to Gotham or another good shop around you? Or get the classic chart from Robs site and do it yourself. That way you can tell the techs what they did wrong. Always fun!;)

iceman4357 06-20-04 06:21 PM

wow, thats gay. I hate mazda service. Owning one of these cars really makes you mechanically inclined. I am going to try and take the top off and look at the rats nest to see if any hoses are cracked or popped off. For the past day the car idles at 15 vac. The exhaust still sounds like its missing, but i experience no power loss at all. The gauge doesnt shake at all, its a steady vac which is why i think its a plug or hose. It would fluctuate if one or 2 of the apex seals were blown wouldnt it??

iceman4357 06-20-04 06:21 PM

...thanks for the help/info

GoodfellaFD3S 06-20-04 09:47 PM


Originally posted by iceman4357
For the past day the car idles at 15 vac. The exhaust still sounds like its missing, but i experience no power loss at all. The gauge doesnt shake at all, its a steady vac which is why i think its a plug or hose. It would fluctuate if one or 2 of the apex seals were blown wouldnt it??
Sounds like the motor is fine.......

iceman4357 06-21-04 02:07 AM

hope so, im ripping it apart tomorrow morning!!

cruiser 06-21-04 04:06 AM

Engine should be fine. Just check your vacuum lines.

lopedl 06-21-04 11:07 AM


Originally posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Does the needle on the vacuum gauge shake at idle? Do you have very little power at low rpms? What does the exhaust note sound like at idle? irregular?
Why what does that mean....

iceman4357 06-21-04 03:56 PM

i looked at all the hoses and they are connected. None look cracked. I still need to replace my spark plugs, but it looks like its time for a compression test :(

GoodfellaFD3S 06-21-04 05:14 PM

deux post.

GoodfellaFD3S 06-21-04 05:14 PM


Originally posted by lopedl
Why what does that mean....
All of those are symptoms of a cracked apex seal/irregular compression. Once you've seen it enough, you can pretty much tell a blown motor just by watching and listening to it idle.

Iceman, from what you described you dont have a blown motor. a popped motor does not pull 15 inches of mercury at 700 rpm. Check your plugs, plug wires, coils. Could be you are not firing on all cylinders, heh. Get a spark checker. maybe a leaky injector? could be lots of stuff, and if mazda dropped in your motor I am surprised the sucker even starts :)

iceman4357 06-21-04 09:25 PM

well, not the idle is back down a little to around 12-13ish. It might be a coil, or injector because it was bucking a little when i would accelerate. Its amazing how much you learn about these cars in such little time.

BoOsTin FD 06-21-04 10:12 PM

"Very little power at low RPM" by what RPM do you mean? Lately I've had some funky stuff going on so just looking for some options.

GoodfellaFD3S 06-21-04 10:44 PM


Originally posted by BoOsTin FD
"Very little power at low RPM" by what RPM do you mean? Lately I've had some funky stuff going on so just looking for some options.
below around 3k or so. The car will sound like a lawnmower and pull kind of "choppily," if that makes sense.

GoodfellaFD3S 06-21-04 10:54 PM


Originally posted by BoOsTin FD
"Very little power at low RPM" by what RPM do you mean? Lately I've had some funky stuff going on so just looking for some options.
below around 3k or so. The car will sound like a lawnmower and pull kind of "choppily," if that makes sense.

Syonyk 06-22-04 12:34 AM

*shakes head* Not good IMO.

Much as it sucks, just pull the plugs & see what kind of compression you get.

-=Russ=-

1QWIK7 01-01-06 05:03 PM

Im having similar problems. Now that its cold out, when i start the car, i would let it idle with me on the gas holding revs just below 2k for about 15 seconds, then i let go and let it idle til warm.

But today, when i started it, i held it just below 2k but it was missing and i could feel the car shake a bit. I let go for the throttle and the car was shaking more, vac gauge shows 15 in. So me being a bit surprised and scared, i held the revs at 2k for the next 2 straight minutes. As the car ran longer, the idle and vacuum smoothed out.

No unusual smoke from the exhaust except the normal when its 30 degrees out.

My question is could it be as simple as spark plugs? I checked the map, thats fine and other related fixers that i searched here and they all seem fine.

The last time the spark plugs were replaced was 1 week prior of me picking up the FD for the first time, and that was 2 years ago. Even then i dont know for sure if the previous owner changed the plugs, he just "told" me he will do it before he gave it to me.

Funny thing is that this never happened to me before, i never beat on the car daily, maybe wot once or twice a week. Always did a warmup and cooldown. Never boosted past 10psi. Car runs normal when warm, only on the cold startup it acts funny.

Spark plugs right?

dgeesaman 01-02-06 08:00 AM

Or a dripping injector. In that case, the fuel that accumulates causes a slightly flooded startup that takes some time to clear.

Dave

1QWIK7 01-02-06 10:20 AM

Possibly but damn just out of nowhere? This just happened to me, first time. All other times it would let me hold revs to 2k with no problem. Now it lets me do it but i can still feel the car miss and stutter and shake til its warm, then it will even and smooth out.

Im gonna wait for a non rainy day this week and just change the plugs since i have 4 Ngk 9's in my drawer right now just sitting there lol.

Improved FD 01-02-06 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by ulost2my7
but damn just out of nowhere?.

they don't call it an FD...."f'ing disaster"....for nothin :)

we're all passionate but naive young men who love to throw our money into the arms of an evil, seductive beauty :)

twokrx7 01-02-06 10:52 AM

I hate to even type the words but it sounds like it could be a chipped apex seal. but with the plugs being 2+ years old you gotta change them and see what happens. If this doesn not clear up the issue you should do a compression check, that's the only definitive test for the motor's health if you are still having problems.

1QWIK7 01-02-06 12:06 PM

Yeah i hope not, im almost sure its spark plugs.

We'll find out this week.


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