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mannykiller 02-09-11 01:22 AM

Also... please god help me!!! my superpro's didn't come with instructions.. and I've got them almost all installed but where the hell do these go?
http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/y...208_222335.jpg

Possibly here?

http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/y...208_222433.jpg

ALSO!!!

son of a B****.... Just noticed one was bent.. good thing I didn't start to press them out. I think i'm just going to get some aftermarket ones.. I've heard these are a nightmare at the least..
http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/y...208_222551.jpg

Any help with where these go would help. I think i might have pressed in 2 bushings into the wrong holes.. Wouldn't be the first time it accidently slipped into the wrong hole..:lol: jk jk.. But on a serious note.. HELP! Does anyone have a picture of superpros installed into the Upper rear control arms?

Project D1 02-09-11 01:35 AM

Not thinking too well right now, but I just redid all my suspension with superpro. . .you won't regret it. . .

The "Master Kit" doesn't come with ALL the bushings. . .if you want replace all of them you have to buy some OEM Mazda ones (spherical). . .not sure what the price would be down there but they were pretty expensive here. . .so well worth it though. . .

cohbra 02-09-11 01:48 AM

It's been a few years since I did my bushings but that looks correct on the control arm bushings. If I could see the bushings themselves instead of the package I could be more certain. I believe those had a small lip on one side if I remember correctly.

As far as the toe links go, I replaced mine with aftermarket ones and I have the originals that are still in good shape if your interested.

Also, you might check and see what Superpro recommends, but when I replaced all of my bushings I drilled and installed grease czerks in every one so that I can hit them with a grease gun once in a while. I guess it will depend on the material the bushings are made out of as to whether or not you can put grease on them.

Howard Coleman 02-09-11 07:53 AM

SPF2675K and 2676K are the inner bushings on your toe links for the rear

Howard Coleman 02-09-11 08:00 AM

while there is nothing wrong w doing all the bushings the two sets of bushings that must be upgraded on all dual purpose FDs are...

the large rubber bushing on the front of the lower link in the rear of the chassis. this rubbery bushing should have no compliance as it controls toe under acceleration and deceleration. any movement and your toe changes which is evil.

the other set of bushings that must be replaced are also large and rubbery. they are the differential bushings and reside on top of the diff.

any movement in these bushings creates axle bounce and broken spider gears in your diff. (you want to get rid of the fragile Torsen and replace it w a clutch type LSD but don't get rid of it by breaking it as it will take out the diff case). i don't know if the bushings are included but if not i suggest you contact Pettit or Rotary Performance.

stock toe links work perfectly and do not necessarily need to be replaced if they are in good shape. nice bend BTW:)

howard

Force13B 02-09-11 10:44 AM

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This should help manny
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...2&d=1297269843

Battle Cat 02-09-11 10:52 AM

looking good

mannykiller 02-09-11 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by Howard Coleman CPR (Post 10460815)
while there is nothing wrong w doing all the bushings the two sets of bushings that must be upgraded on all dual purpose FDs are...

the large rubber bushing on the front of the lower link in the rear of the chassis. this rubbery bushing should have no compliance as it controls toe under acceleration and deceleration. any movement and your toe changes which is evil.

the other set of bushings that must be replaced are also large and rubbery. they are the differential bushings and reside on top of the diff.

any movement in these bushings creates axle bounce and broken spider gears in your diff. (you want to get rid of the fragile Torsen and replace it w a clutch type LSD but don't get rid of it by breaking it as it will take out the diff case). i don't know if the bushings are included but if not i suggest you contact Pettit or Rotary Performance.

stock toe links work perfectly and do not necessarily need to be replaced if they are in good shape. nice bend BTW:)

howard


Howard... then which ones go into the Lower arms in the rear?

Also..My gut tells me that these are in the wrong place... note the slight gap between the bushing lip and the arm... (rear)
http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/y...209_082206.jpg
http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/y...209_082221.jpg
Maybe they go into the lower arms?

and the cross-member bushings go into the Shock mount?

Howard Coleman 02-09-11 12:34 PM

do you have part #s on the bushings?

mannykiller 02-09-11 12:38 PM

the box was opened but all the bushings were there.. I think I have the bag with part numbers though. I'll have a look when I get home...

mannykiller 02-09-11 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by Howard Coleman CPR (Post 10461216)
do you have part #s on the bushings?

Part Number is: SPF2678K..

mannykiller 02-09-11 07:14 PM

Headed over to the shop to push the wheel hub into the bearing. Had to make sure to support the innermost ring..but they went in pretty smoothly.
http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/y...209_161725.jpg
http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/y...209_162342.jpg
http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/y...209_162312.jpg

Howard Coleman 02-09-11 07:22 PM

according to the link

http://203.31.191.243/fulcrumCat/

2678k is in the rear and is the inner link for the upper control arm. there should be 4.

why are you not removing the rotor dust shields?

hc

mannykiller 02-10-11 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by Howard Coleman CPR (Post 10461989)
according to the link

http://203.31.191.243/fulcrumCat/

2678k is in the rear and is the inner link for the upper control arm. there should be 4.

why are you not removing the rotor dust shields?

hc


Hmmm..thanks for the link.. i'll be using that tonight.

I'm gonna remove the dust shields tonight. I think i'm going to paint them Black. Or do you think I should completely remove them all together from the unit?..is that what your saying?

Howard Coleman 02-10-11 01:50 PM

yes, remove both front and rear shields. they work really great keeping the heat in the rotors which is exactly what you don't want. the front rotors are the primary brake problem on the FD. (lack of mass)

howard

Insane Driver 02-10-11 06:32 PM

Where did you get your oil coolers?

mannykiller 02-10-11 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by Insane Driver (Post 10463751)
Where did you get your oil coolers?

I bought them used as a kit off of a forum member. They pop up every 3-4 months randomly. I'd suggest waiting for them, or you could contact sake bomb gorage. They have a highly popular kit here on the forum.

Did a little Pillow ball action today after work. Got my steering rack clean.. and for christ's sake...it was a job and a half.
http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/y...210_161348.jpg

all clean and masked ready for paint
http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/y...210_193213.jpg


I also got really curious as to how the rubberized underspray was going to come out. I went with the 3m brand because i've never been dissappointed with any of their products in the past.. I have to say...2 coats was impressively thick..and i'm hoping this stuff will last a while. I like the way it came out:icon_tup:

http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/y...210_115032.jpg
http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/y...210_115017.jpg

Ohhh and I got the bushings in where they belong.

RX72NR 02-10-11 11:13 PM

Awesome attention to detail, more pics and keep posting!!!

FD3S2005 02-11-11 02:37 AM

wish i had room for a press, air compressor and sandblaster case.. i would love to be doing my bushings myself when i get them.

im curious as to how the extended studs will look. Also i did not know about the dust shield being complete crap. when i do my bushings ill be doing that

Howard Coleman 02-11-11 05:02 PM

this would be a great time to lose the power steering... i have been manual since 99 and it is my favorite mod. it has no place on a 2800 pound sportscar.

hc

Turblown 02-11-11 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by Howard Coleman CPR (Post 10465422)
this would be a great time to lose the power steering... i have been manual since 99 and it is my favorite mod. it has no place on a 2800 pound sportscar.

hc


One of my favorite mods too.

mannykiller 02-11-11 11:11 PM

hmm.. Let me think about it. i've def considered it. But I've heard it might cause problems at full lock while drifting...

in other news.. I got my Pillow ball clips in. Lost them, so I called Ray at Malloy Mazda and he overnighted the clips for me.
I also finished up my bushing install. I have all the bushings in their correct locations, so thats a plus.
I hate to leave in the midst of things.. but i'm off to Australia and New Zealand on the 15th of this month.. I think on tuesday or so..4-5 days? I'm not even close to being ready hahaha.

vosko 02-12-11 10:16 AM

leave the power steering

CrispyRX7 02-12-11 12:56 PM

Street car? Keep the PS.
Track car? Ditch the PS
Combination street/track? Keep the PS (Lowest common denomonator)

Regards,
Crispy

Narfle 02-12-11 01:56 PM

To play devil's advocate here I'm going to recommend you double up on the power steering. Maybe get a freightliner pump.


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