lost on the battle . vs vett Z06
 

couple of months ago.

i lost againt vett z06.

intake exhaust catback. thats all i got.

i will do ecu upgrade, DP, double throttle remove, NGK spark plug.

actually i almost got him till 60-100 mph.

but over 100. he was fast.

anyhow.

IT WAS ON THE JUST STRAIGHT LINE.

no corners.

i will beat him on the corner.

how many horses can i get from these mod?

intake
exhaust
catback
DP
ECU upgrade
double throttle removal
NGK new spark plug :(

oh poor boy
need $$$

With your mods plus ECU, DP, and changint the plugs I don't think it enough to beat a ZO6. Sorry man, but that's just what I think. ZO6's run mid 12's and some have even broken into the 11's all stock. You need something like FMIC, injectors, and some high boost. But if you get those, you'll have more things to worry about like the drivetrain

Re: lost on the battle . vs vett Z06
 

don't bet on it. Those cars are pretty much the benchmark for every new (and exotic) sportscar made. as much as i would like to say the RX-7 will clean house, realistically, a stock 10 year old suspension won't cut it.

Re: Re: lost on the battle . vs vett Z06
 

damn I was gonna say that. The Z06 is a very well rounded car and has excellent handling. It pulls slightly over a G and can stop from 60-0 in 103 feet I believe (watched it on Motortrend TV) and beat the new E46 M3 in every performance test including lap times. And Ms have always been the benchmark for handling

Youre not going to beat him in the "corners" either.


As much as I love the car, I at least have the sense of reality to admit that the Z06 > RX7

I saw one dyno the other day...stage 2 (tweaked out intake and some exhaust mod, from what I could tell)

430 rwhp...this thing was screamin'

YOU'RE NOT GUNNA WIN BUDDY

FD still looks better though :D

My brother-in-law has an 02 Z06 and we race all the time. He has upgraded exhaust, bigger injectors, after market ram-air and runs a 12.4 1/4 @ 119 mph on stock wheels. But, we know he's running way too rich with the injectors so this winter we are putting in a new ECU. My best run is a 12.79 1/4 @ 115 mph on stock wheels and I have pfc, dp, mp, cb, and cold air intake.

He sticks right on my bumper in the twisties with no problem. Now we are in competition, I am planning on getting a big fmic and go single. He is looking at a supercharger for his 06. We haven't dyno'd his car yet, but it is fast.

The ZO6 is wonderful but a tuned RX-7 can hang in there. I have raced, and beaten, 3 ZO6s at test and tune at local strips. I'm no hotshot driver and neither were the guys I was racing but I run 12.5 and 110 running 12-13 lbs of boost in my 1993. I have a PFS ported motor with 30,000 miles on it, PFS medium intercooler and intake, the PFS PMS, a high flow cat, PFS catback and a dyno tune from PFS as well, so my car is in a reasonable state of tune.

I also had a substantial advantage because I was on Mickey Thompson ET streets while the Vettes were on street tires but the point is that a TUNED RX-7 can certainly be competitive with a STOCK ZO6, at least in the quarter. Not bad for 79 cubic inches!

And I cannot imagine a ZO6 out-cornering or out-stoping an RX-7. We can't match the ZO6 in the straights but the RX-7s handling is still top of the class.

I dunno man, I watched the whole test they did on it and i was extremely impressed. It lit up the M like there is no tomorrow in everything. I figured the Z06 would win in straightline and in Gs which it did, but it whomped in everything else. And I am 99% sure I remember seeing a 60-0 in 103 feet. Which is around 6-7 feet better than the FD:eek:

awaiting scathing rebuke by JimLab.....

I moved this back here, it was in the right section to begin with.

FD vs Z06
 

I posted on this topic a few months ago. With my wife at the wheel of my vette and me at the wheel of my FD, it is a pretty close race. The low end torque of the vette favors it on standing starts, but with my mods, when I get to about 20 mph, it is nearly even. On cold days where the A/F mixture may be more potent, there may be a slight advntage to the FD. A highly modded single turbo (sorry, Rikki) probably will out pull a stock Z06, but that is a lot of bolt-ons to beat an out of the box car. A highly modded Z06 will be hard to beat, unless you go to nitrous. Oh yeah- they don't corner half bad either, so don't think that getting into the turns is going to automatically give you an advantage. The tires on the Z06 are about four feet wide (JK). Try getting the same tire size on your FD. Bottom line- you are talking about performance differences in the top 0.1% of cars on the road. At this level the competition is fierce and the differences in performance are slight.

Let's not miss the obvious difference in cost of a late model Z06 vs a 93 FD. Bang for the buck is the Gen III Rex's best category!

That is true...it is like a flip-flop for me. I have about $14k into my 7, and the bro-in-law has about $41k into his 06. Of course if you've ever seen the inside of one they are quite nice.

if i could afford it...Id sell the fd and get a z06...but alas...spent all my munnies on the third gen.

if you want to beat a z06...youll need a mod list like the one below.

j

I'll take the Z06 :)

better yet, I'll just take my Yamaha R1 and kick ALL of your asses, straight line or not, for about 1/5 the price :D

power to weight baby....cars are slow

I also am a big admirer of the z06 but its still too expensive when comparing it to the fd which is still the better bang for the buck. If you upgrade the fd for track(roadcourse) use it will hang with most any stock car for way less money and IMO the looks are heads and heals above most cars including exotics. Oh and lets not forget the real reason we love it; cause its different !>

Observe exhibit A:

http://www.scca.org/amateur/solo2/na...esults/ss.html

I don't see any RX-7s in there, man. And that's about as "twisty" as they get.
Of course, it's POSSIBLE that all the best drivers just happen to drive Z06's instead of RX-7's. But then again, you'd think the best drivers would want the best car...

And yes- the Third Gen RX-7 IS a better value versus a new Z06. But let's not get into the used XX + mods vs New YY game, shall we? We ALL know that an older, modified car is a better value. :)

Not likely, I think the car speaks for itself, and I don't really care to try to educate the people who apparently weren't listening. :)

Even if I could afford a Z06, I wouldn't buy one. Just don't like the interior or its exterior.

Even if its slower or handles a little less, I'd rather take a car that is pleasing to the eye and makes you feel like you sit in a cockpit.

The Z06's pudgy fingered midget designed semi-Fischer Price interior just doesn't do it for me :p:

PERFECT description Flybye, thanks! :D

K

I've been up against C5s (including some Z06s) at the track (road course) in my single turbo FD. I have to say that they were one of the only cars that even came close to me on the handling. They do handle nicely and have good acceleration, even if they have a crappy interior and the other usual American car problems.

After only about a hundred years of building cars, I guess the USA finally is starting to figure out how to do SOMETHING right.

Brian

Don't forget that a Z-06 is about twice as easy to drive on a road corse than a Turbo RX. You have much more tire, easier to modulate the throtle in the turns and you have the low end torque which is absent in the RX. I never ovned either one, but have driven both quiet extensivley. When you jump into an RX 7 (FD) it feels like it could really hurt you while going around a turn. In a Corvette, I feel right at home, so much easier to drive fast. This is pretty strange because my fun car is a turboed rear wheel drive and weights about 2100 lbs. I should be able to drive the RX better, but it's not the case.

I've beat Z06s on the road. I've got a ported motor, main cat, most bolt ons, stock turbos. Not by much tho. The handwriting is on the wall.

As far as handling, stock to stock, likely no comparison. BUT, it wouldn't be a fair comparison anyway. The Z06 has much larger wheels, and newer tires for starters. Bolt up a set of circa 1992 225/50/16's and see how it runs. A comparison of tuned vehicles would just be a comparison of tunING. I think the platforms are about equal. I think the fact that Cam from Pettit can even run in a modern speedvision challenge race with such an underfunded car and old tires speaks volumes about that. Try that with anything ELSE from 1992, including a 92 vette.

The Z06 is the new benchmark though. We're seeing a 1960's-style horsepower war going on in the industry these days, and our cars just aren't of this era. Theres only so long you can compete w/ 5.7 litres. period.

Yes the Z06 interior is cheezy, but have you looked at your shifter console lately :-)

Might that have something to do with the toe control aspects of the rear end of the RX yeilding unexpected results during weight transfers in corners where traffic shows up? Ya go to kick the tail out with power oversteer and end up driving into the midfield. especially with turbo transitions on this machine. I LOVE the white knuckle stories of stomping on it in the rain...