Jack stand location
Those who have read any of my prior posts already know that I'm an idiot. Just one more example of same. I need some advice on where to jack up the FD and then once up, where to place jack stands. Keep in mind that advice which would help more folks like "under the crossmember" etc... don't do me a lot of good. I could really use pictures. I know there are a lot of FD's out there on stands at the moment. Anyone want to take a shot showing me where you put them, both front and read? Likewise point to where you place a floor jack?
I know it is a stupid question and a pain to post pictures, but I'd sure appreciate it. |
Wish I could get you some pics, but here goes with words -
I start with the front of the car. I have a relatively low-profile floor jack (a big jack too) that can reach into the front subframe. It's a steel frame that forms a square around the oil pan. I put the jack under the frontmost part of the square, then start jacking up. Then, at the back 2 corners of the square, you can see the nuts that hold the motor mounts into the subframe. Around that area is where I put the two jack stands. At the back, I put the jack under the differential - it's silver and has the driveshafts coming out the side, it's easy to spot. Jack it up, then I put the jackstands on the subframe. The spots I use are part of the black subframe, the rear most suspension arm bolts to it there, and that section is kind of square in shape. The jack fits those 2 square points beautifully. Dale |
Originally Posted by DaleClark
(Post 7763952)
I start with the front of the car. I have a relatively low-profile floor jack (a big jack too) that can reach into the front subframe. It's a steel frame that forms a square around the oil pan. I put the jack under the frontmost part of the square, then start jacking up. Then, at the back 2 corners of the square, you can see the nuts that hold the motor mounts into the subframe. Around that area is where I put the two jack stands.
At the back, I put the jack under the differential - it's silver and has the driveshafts coming out the side, it's easy to spot. Jack it up, then I put the jackstands on the subframe. The spots I use are part of the black subframe, the rear most suspension arm bolts to it there, and that section is kind of square in shape. The jack fits those 2 square points beautifully. |
Another trick if your car is pretty low and you have problems getting the jack under there - get some pieces of wood, put a piece in front of each tire, then drive up (or push the car up) onto the wood. Many times that will give you the extra inch or two you need.
Dale |
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Another way is to use the "jacking positions" for the stands. This gives you the most room under the car to move around since the stands are on the outside not under the crossmembers. Really depends on where you will be working. I have a number of wooden blocks that I use under the regular car jack to achieve different jacking heights, then slip the jack stands in, move to the other side and repeat. When I do use my floor jack, I have a piece of galvanized pipe that can be used as an extension to the handle. This allows me to slide the small floor jack farther under the car if I need to use the subframe or diff as a jacking point.
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Originally Posted by DaleClark
(Post 7764057)
Another trick if your car is pretty low and you have problems getting the jack under there - get some pieces of wood, put a piece in front of each tire, then drive up (or push the car up) onto the wood. Many times that will give you the extra inch or two you need.
Originally Posted by ppritchard
(Post 7765061)
Another way is to use the "jacking positions" for the stands. This gives you the most room under the car to move around since the stands are on the outside not under the crossmembers. Really depends on where you will be working. I have a number of wooden blocks that I use under the regular car jack to achieve different jacking heights, then slip the jack stands in, move to the other side and repeat. When I do use my floor jack, I have a piece of galvanized pipe that can be used as an extension to the handle. This allows me to slide the small floor jack farther under the car if I need to use the subframe or diff as a jacking point.
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I personally use all of the points mentioned already.
Regardless of which points you use, take it very easy setting the weight of the car onto the stands. The pinch rails on the sides of the car are somewhat reinforced in that area between the notches (the notches note where to locate the stock emergency jack), but if you plunk the car down onto the stands you will bend some metal. Ditto with the rear subframe - set it down gently on the stands. Dave |
Originally Posted by dhays
(Post 7765391)
No problems using those jacking points then? I was wondering about that. I'm envious of your garage/shop. I wish I had that much space. I've got 4 cars and only the RX can fit inside my garage, and it is a tight fit.
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Here's mine,chassis rails at front,sub frame at rear
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Originally Posted by DaleClark
(Post 7764057)
Another trick if your car is pretty low and you have problems getting the jack under there - get some pieces of wood, put a piece in front of each tire, then drive up (or push the car up) onto the wood. Many times that will give you the extra inch or two you need.
Dale |
Originally Posted by Six Rotors
(Post 7765551)
Here's mine,chassis rails at front,sub frame at rear
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Originally Posted by ppritchard
(Post 7765061)
Another way is to use the "jacking positions" for the stands. This gives you the most room under the car to move around since the stands are on the outside not under the crossmembers. Really depends on where you will be working. I have a number of wooden blocks that I use under the regular car jack to achieve different jacking heights, then slip the jack stands in, move to the other side and repeat. When I do use my floor jack, I have a piece of galvanized pipe that can be used as an extension to the handle. This allows me to slide the small floor jack farther under the car if I need to use the subframe or diff as a jacking point.
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...kstands003.jpg I WOULD NOT use these places. The pinch weld will fold up over time. The rocker is easy to damage and they are both cosmetic surfaces IMHO. When jacking the car up I always lift front to rear or vice versa not left to right. |
I avoid jacking the rear of the car from the differential because I don't like putting so much sustained stress on the fluid filled differential bushings.
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Originally Posted by turbojeff
(Post 7765562)
I WOULD NOT use these places.
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Originally Posted by DamonB
(Post 7765563)
I avoid jacking the rear of the car from the differential because I don't like putting so much sustained stress on the fluid filled differential bushings.
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Originally Posted by Six Rotors
(Post 7765551)
Here's mine,chassis rails at front,sub frame at rear
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Originally Posted by DamonB
(Post 7765563)
I avoid jacking the rear of the car from the differential because I don't like putting so much sustained stress on the fluid filled differential bushings.
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A page from FSM.
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Originally Posted by Mahjik
(Post 7765511)
I use the FSM locations as well and my car has lived up on the stands for a long time. Don't forget to give the car the "nudge" test before doing any work on it.
I grab hold of something solid with both hands, such as the strut bar in front, and pull it back and forth pretty hard. Better to find jackstand problems while I'm not under the car. :) |
Originally Posted by jkstill
(Post 7765974)
Nudge?
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What are opinions on supporting car on 3 jackstands instead of 4? I have on more than one occasion had a "loose" jackstand when on 4 w/weight of car obviously held on other 3. yikes!! very unnerving... (yes my frame is straight...) So I prefer to support wide on the pinch rails up front and one under the diff brace in back. Seems rock solid. Smart or stupid?
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Kent, mine frequently does the tri-pod action as well. The others I've been under have done it a little as well (Israel's, Matt's, etc).
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Originally Posted by Six Rotors
(Post 7765704)
It takes less then 2 minutes.
Originally Posted by dhays
Where do you jack up the rear then?
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