How safe is Methyl Hydrate?
 

Guys i have been told to add methyl hydrate into my gas tank so that i can pass air care, i was wondering weather this shit can harm the turbos and the engine, please tell me what i should watch out for if i put this shit in there i want to pass air care, so this may be my only choice. I have been told not to boost the car with this shit in there, can anybody tell me why? also how much are you supposed to put in and with what grade gasoline? i have been told half a tank of gas with a half a bottle of methyl hydrate, sound right?

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Methyl Hydrate? Do you mean Methanol? I put in 1 gallon of denatured alcohol (which is about 85% methanol) with about 5 gallons of 93 octane still in the tank. This gave great results. Immediately after passing the test, I filled up with 93 to dilute the alcohol as much as possible.

Brian

Methyl Hydrate = Methanol. Agreed with above, dilute it immediately after testing and you should not have any problems. If you leave that high a concentration in place you run a risk of dessicating (dehydrating) things like...............O ring seals!!!!!!!!!:eek:

shit that sounds scary man!!!

where to get those alcohol?

Dehyrdrating o-rings? Are you serious, or are you making that up?

I've never heard methanol called methyl hydrate. Kind of reminds me of dihydrogen monoxide.

http://www.dhmo.org/

Totally off topic, but pretty funny.

Nope, it really happens. Even just sitting on a shelf.
They get hard and lose their sealing ability since they shrink.

You always want to use relatively new O rings whenever you are replacing them, not the ones you've had sitting around for a few years. Methanol will just accelerate the aging process because it is hydroscopic -
loosely translated: "water loving". It's also good for stripping oil from engine surfaces.

Actually, its 'hygroscopic'. Or you could say hydrophilic, which translates into 'water loving.'

Don't mind me, I'm just being an ass ;)

where to get denatured alcohol/methanol?????

Since we are splitting hairs, and I DID say loosely translated:

hydroscopic: "Absorbing or retaining moisture from the
atmosphere". You'll only find this term in
glossaries used by chemists, but not
in any standard dictionary. A
hydroscope is an optical device used for
viewing objects far below the surface of
the water.

hygroscopic: "an instrument showing changes in
humidty." (hygroscope) and "the tendancy
of some materials to absorb moisture from
the air"

Neither term really fits the bill - since we are talking about a liquid, and not the atmosphere or air. Although I guess you could define atmosphere as the gaseous environment inside an internal combustion engine.
Hygroscopic is an actual word, although you will find hydroscopic used commonly by chemists and scientists to describe the situation. But just because it is commonly used by intelligent people does not mean it exists or is correct. And unless there is some obscure chemical dictionary out there that defines it, it does NOT exist. SO, you are correct!

Hydrophilic gets even less specific, but what I want to know is why is it not "hygro"philic?

I should have left it alone at dessicate. Simple is always better, No?

Better than having "hydrophobia" though! GRRRrrrrr.

At least I am not hydrophobic.

Don't mind me either, I am just being a bigger ass.
:D

ACE should be the place!;)

:bigthumb:

FUNNY. I think you should send that in to Jay Leno for his "streetwalking" gig.:D

I've never really understood the difference between 'hydroscopic' and 'hygroscopic'. But right now I'm working on my PhD in polymer science, which is mostly organic chemsitry, and 'hygroscopic' is usually the word used, which generally refers to substances that absorb moisture from the air. I rarely see the term hydroscopic, although I think 'hydro' is more understandable that 'hygro'.

What does 'hygro' mean anyway? And like you said, maybe it should be 'hygrophilic' :D

I think you may have just found a topic for your Doctoral
thesis! It's no more obscure than some of them.......

I'll put money on it that it's the difference between the Latin and Greek derivations?

yeah, it is commonly used by painters to get excess paint off of things like hindges. home depot, or any hardware store will have it.

hey guys, what about dillequescent. like NaOH is. absorbs water from the air... like mad. NaOH solid becomes a liquid after sitting in air for a little bit(10min). and i live in a dry climate. silicate is another example. with electronics, to absorb moisture after a package has been sealed.

Umm, I think you are getting a little off topic, (whatever it was to begin with) but hey, it's a free - bandwith.

Dood, swallow some of both and see what happens!:eek:

i was contributing to the side topic... i am just adding the term dillequescent for water absorbing.

get it from homedepot :)

Nice! I have actually never heard that term before, but looked it up. This actually happens with a lot of compounds that I've been working with. I always just called them hygroscopic. Now I can show off my new word :D

deliquescent

\Del`i*ques"cent\, a. [L. deliquescens, -entis, p. pr. of deliquescere: cf. F. d['e]liquescent.] 1. Dissolving; liquefying by contact with the air; capable of attracting moisture from the atmosphere and becoming liquid; as, deliquescent salts

how much alcohol should I put in the tank?

I find that a pint of Jack Daniels usually gets me lower than a snake's belly in a wagon rut.:beer: :D

Ok, I say 4 oz. in a half tank, pass emissions, (hopefully) and then fill er' up immediately to dilute. Anyone else?