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MuRCieLaGo 04-10-09 04:50 PM

How to remove "Add coolant" buzzer?
 
Is there any fuse I can bypass to disable the frustrating buzzer?

Or can I simply diable the stock water temperature gauge?

I have a aftermarket water temperature gauge...

Thanks!

P.S.: I tried looking at the fuses box in the car but it's all in japanese... (I have a JDM)

djseven 04-10-09 05:09 PM

The sensor is about $30.00 if you need to replace it, it could save you an engine ;)

Sgtblue 04-10-09 06:19 PM

^Agreed. Why do you want to disable it? The low coolant level sensor is black and mounted right on the front of the t-stat housing. It's one of the easiest sensor's to access and one of the least expensive.
If you absolutely MUST disable it for some reason, you could just unplug it. It's a single wire connector just behind and beside the filler neck.

fendamonky 04-10-09 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by MuRCieLaGo (Post 9117549)
Is there any fuse I can bypass to disable the frustrating buzzer?

Not to state the obvious... but have you checked your coolant level??? I always find that replacing coolant makes the buzzer stop....

GoodfellaFD3S 04-10-09 09:43 PM

If your coolant level is fine but the buzzer is still driving you nuts, it's either the wire to the sensor or the black spade connector off the engine wiring harness. It's located near the front lift hook and the connector for the OMP, and plugs into the body wiring harness.

badddrx7 04-10-09 10:01 PM

Find the wire that leads over to the driver side harness - ground it. Your alarm buzzer will never sound off again now. In the meantime collect up about 3 Large for a rebuild later



Later

RMRanger 05-21-09 11:01 AM

Glad I found this thread...I am going to disable mine as well until I get a replacement sensor. After changing my oil last night the buzzer is constantly on. Think I may have spilled oil on something and shorted out the sensor? I'm not sure. I switched oil weights too, from 10W-30 (I believe, not sure, the shop I had it at put the oil in) to 20W-50, might that have something to do with it? Oh I should add that I know I don't need to add coolant. I check fluid levels every day, they're fine, and water temp readings on the PFC are normal.

Six Rotors 05-21-09 12:11 PM

If you were adding oil where it could spill on the coolant level sensor you need to check the Owners Manual!

mrb63083 05-21-09 01:09 PM

Hah, add coolant!

papsmagu 05-21-09 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by RMRanger (Post 9227801)
Glad I found this thread...I am going to disable mine as well until I get a replacement sensor. After changing my oil last night the buzzer is constantly on. Think I may have spilled oil on something and shorted out the sensor? I'm not sure. I switched oil weights too, from 10W-30 (I believe, not sure, the shop I had it at put the oil in) to 20W-50, might that have something to do with it? Oh I should add that I know I don't need to add coolant. I check fluid levels every day, they're fine, and water temp readings on the PFC are normal.

WTF :scratch::scratch: perfect example of an FD being in the wrong hands

Bluewind 05-21-09 04:34 PM

I replaced my buzzer with this:

http://www.worldofstock.com/slides/PAB2181.jpg

(Actually I haven't found the problem to mine yet. Will check the wiring this weekend).

IRPerformance 05-21-09 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by badddrx7 (Post 9118130)
Find the wire that leads over to the driver side harness - ground it. Your alarm buzzer will never sound off again now. In the meantime collect up about 3 Large for a rebuild later



Later

that's hilarious:lol: Fix it right. Almost seems more work grounding the sensor that just replacing it.

RMRanger 05-21-09 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by papsmagu (Post 9228546)
WTF :scratch::scratch: perfect example of an FD being in the wrong hands

The hell is that supposed to mean? Just because I don't know about FDs I don't deserve to own one? We all have to start somewhere buddy. No wonder this site has such a bad name associated with it, almost everyone on here is a dick :icon_tdow Why don't you enlighten me if I said something stupid instead of just making asshole comments like that? :scratch:

cptpain 05-21-09 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by RMRanger (Post 9229062)
The hell is that supposed to mean? Just because I don't know about FDs I don't deserve to own one? We all have to start somewhere buddy. No wonder this site has such a bad name associated with it, almost everyone on here is a dick :icon_tdow Why don't you enlighten me if I said something stupid instead of just making asshole comments like that? :scratch:

His reason is sound.

You would have gotten a much better response if you asked HOW TO FIX the buzzer instead of disabling it.

Lots of things could activate the buzzer.... low coolant level, air pocket in the coolant, bad wiring, bad sensor etc.....

While i do agree that his post was a little bit misguided, his basis for such is sound, as there have been MANY people that did what you are trying to do, and then.... they have to spend $3k+ for a reman/new motor/rebuild, and had to sell it because it blew in a matter of months of purchase.

RMRanger 05-21-09 08:55 PM

Well as I said in my post, I just want to disable it until I replace the sensor, which will only be a few days from now, or whenever I get the part. And I'll do the wiring at the same time. Obviously it's not a good idea to disable the light permanently; I do have a temp gauge on the PFC but the factory gauge / buzzer actually works very well unless it's broken, and I realize it could be my last defense before doing permanent damage to the engine. I take care of my car...I know I'm not in any danger of there actually being low coolant, I check it every time I get in the car unless it's hot, I know how important it is to keep these engines cool and I always carry coolant and oil with me. So, it's not because of low coolant level, and I didn't mention this earlier as I didn't know it could cause the light to come on, but it's not because of air in the coolant either...I just burped it a few days ago. That leaves either a faulty sensor or faulty wiring. It ONLY started doing this after I changed the oil, and, come to find out that the spade connector mentioned earlier is close to the oil filler neck...so it would have been easy to spill oil on it. I looked at it and it was dry, and the wiring looks sound, but I'm still going to redo it probably, might as well put some better quality wiring in while I'm replacing the sensor.

papsmagu 05-21-09 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by cptpain (Post 9229083)
His reason is sound.

thank you




Originally Posted by RMRanger (Post 9229062)
The hell is that supposed to mean? Just because I don't know about FDs I don't deserve to own one? We all have to start somewhere buddy. No wonder this site has such a bad name associated with it, almost everyone on here is a dick :icon_tdow Why don't you enlighten me if I said something stupid instead of just making asshole comments like that? :scratch:


did i say you don't deserve to own an FD? please don't misquote me. my statement stands...........i believe the FD that is owned by you is not in good hands.

that being said, i disagree with your statement regarding this forum. it is very informative if used correctly. there is a wealth of information on this forum and there are some very knowledgeable individuals that post here. if you think almost everyone here is a "D$*K" then maybe you should not use the forum? just a suggestion ?

as i do not want to crap on this thread, even thought it is worthless, i will leave it at that.

regards,

simon

GoodfellaFD3S 05-21-09 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by RMRanger (Post 9229062)
The hell is that supposed to mean? Just because I don't know about FDs I don't deserve to own one? We all have to start somewhere buddy. No wonder this site has such a bad name associated with it, almost everyone on here is a dick :icon_tdow Why don't you enlighten me if I said something stupid instead of just making asshole comments like that? :scratch:

When you post things like this all you do is confirm people's suspicions.

If 'almost everyone on here is a dick,' then what are you doing on this site? :dunno:

RMRanger 05-21-09 10:04 PM

*sigh* sorry, I've had a bad day, and can sometimes misinterpret things. And I don't even know why I'm on this site, it's addicting :lol: I don't want to stir up anymore drama so I'm not going to say anything else on that matter. Thanks for the help guys. Why do you think it's not in good hands though, papsmagu? Like I said, I do my best to take care of my car. I didn't come into this thread intending NOT to fix something that's broken, which is what I think people may have understood (or misunderstood, rather). I may not be the most knowledgeable mechanic but I do everything I can to keep my car happy. And little things like this are just learning experiences. I'm not harming my car. :(

R-R-Rx7 05-21-09 10:22 PM


Originally Posted by RMRanger (Post 9229577)
*sigh* sorry, I've had a bad day, and can sometimes misinterpret things. And I don't even know why I'm on this site, it's addicting :lol: I don't want to stir up anymore drama so I'm not going to say anything else on that matter. Thanks for the help guys. Why do you think it's not in good hands though, papsmagu? Like I said, I do my best to take care of my car. I didn't come into this thread intending NOT to fix something that's broken, which is what I think people may have understood (or misunderstood, rather). I may not be the most knowledgeable mechanic but I do everything I can to keep my car happy. And little things like this are just learning experiences. I'm not harming my car. :(



removing the buzzer harms your car. And if you trust the pfc temps you might aswell read the dashboard as they both read from the same sensor,

Low level coolant will not even show on the pfc. On the other hand, if air is stuck in your cooling system and the sensor does not get water on it, it might not show a reading but it will be jumping from 90C to 120C and the temps wont be anywhere near those. If you are lucky to see this in time, good for you.. most likely you wont so, there goes the motor

scotty305 05-21-09 11:14 PM


Originally Posted by R-R-Rx7 (Post 9229620)
removing the buzzer harms your car. And if you trust the pfc temps you might aswell read the dashboard as they both read from the same sensor,

I agree that removing the warning buzzer or disabling a functioning coolant level sensor is probably a bad idea, but the ECU does not use the same coolant temp sensor as the coolant temp gauge on the dash. The gauge on the dash uses a one-wire sensor on the rear iron, and the ECU uses a two-wire sensor on the water pump housing.

badddrx7 05-22-09 06:55 AM

Suck it up and learn how to maintain an FD. Next time post intelligently about your problem - hopefully with a resolution already in mind.


Buy a shop manual


Later

R-R-Rx7 05-22-09 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by scotty305 (Post 9229775)
I agree that removing the warning buzzer or disabling a functioning coolant level sensor is probably a bad idea, but the ECU does not use the same coolant temp sensor as the coolant temp gauge on the dash. The gauge on the dash uses a one-wire sensor on the rear iron, and the ECU uses a two-wire sensor on the water pump housing.

it actually uses the same exact temp sensor behind the housing, what you have in mind is probably the level sensor which is one wire

speedjunkie 05-24-09 01:39 AM

First I'd like to state that I'll be helping RMRanger with his FD problems, not just with coolant but with any other problems he may have. Most of you may not know me but Rich does, being that he's helped me alot over the years also. I'd say he's just about the ONLY helpful person in this thread. Case in point...


Originally Posted by papsmagu (Post 9228546)
WTF :scratch::scratch: perfect example of an FD being in the wrong hands

Not helpful at all, then wonders why people think this forum is full of dicks. I wonder. I guess you started out being a pro mechanic for your FD huh? Unless you grew up around them, I'd say everyone here started out the way Ranger did. I certainly didn't know much about FDs when I first started, but people who are actually helpful like Rich have helped me tremendously over the years and now I'm pretty confident.


Originally Posted by cptpain (Post 9229083)
His reason is sound.

You would have gotten a much better response if you asked HOW TO FIX the buzzer instead of disabling it.

Lots of things could activate the buzzer.... low coolant level, air pocket in the coolant, bad wiring, bad sensor etc.....

While i do agree that his post was a little bit misguided, his basis for such is sound, as there have been MANY people that did what you are trying to do, and then.... they have to spend $3k+ for a reman/new motor/rebuild, and had to sell it because it blew in a matter of months of purchase.

It's not like he doesn't want to fix the problem, he's just not sure how and the buzzer is driving him crazy. Just because he didn't ask "how do I fix this problem?" doesn't mean he wasn't actually asking. I believe he was asking for suggestions of what might have caused it. I agree, there have been many people that have done stupid things and ended up blowing up their engines or worse, but Ranger is actually trying to fix it. We've been talking about all this stuff on another forum. I made the mistake of telling him to come here. Should have told him to go to the other forum where people would help.


Originally Posted by papsmagu (Post 9229427)
thank you






did i say you don't deserve to own an FD? please don't misquote me. my statement stands...........i believe the FD that is owned by you is not in good hands.

that being said, i disagree with your statement regarding this forum. it is very informative if used correctly. there is a wealth of information on this forum and there are some very knowledgeable individuals that post here. if you think almost everyone here is a "D$*K" then maybe you should not use the forum? just a suggestion ?

as i do not want to crap on this thread, even thought it is worthless, i will leave it at that.

regards,

simon

You might as well have said that. You told him his FD was in the wrong hands, exactly how many ways is he supposed to take that? It may not be verbatim, but what you said tells me the same thing. Nice try backtracking though.

I agree there is a wealth of info on this forum, unfortunately none of it in THIS thread has come from you.

If you're knowledgeable, how about sharing instead of just shitting on him and saying his FD is in the wrong hands? For crying out loud.


Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S (Post 9229485)
When you post things like this all you do is confirm people's suspicions.

If 'almost everyone on here is a dick,' then what are you doing on this site? :dunno:

Rich, you and I both know what he said is true. He came here looking for help and answers and instead got shit on. I don't blame him at all.


Originally Posted by badddrx7 (Post 9230544)
Suck it up and learn how to maintain an FD. Next time post intelligently about your problem - hopefully with a resolution already in mind.


Buy a shop manual


Later

I'm not sure if he has a manual, I don't remember what he told me, but some people don't know they NEED a manual. I didn't have a manual until over a year into owning mine, I just came to the forum to search for answers and asked knowledgeable people. So what I'm getting at is how is a person supposed to have a resolution in mind when they are coming here to ask for advice?? :dunno: That's kinda putting the cart before the horse isn't it? Doesn't really make sense. And how much more intelligent was his post supposed to be? Is there a grading scale somewhere that he needs to consult before posting?

The only reason I haven't been up to Denver to help him yet is because I just got back from deployment and found that my own FD isn't finished with paint and body work even though it was supposed to be. I'll be sure to go up and help him as soon as I can so he doesn't anger any of you professional FD mechanics anymore.

RX7_GRL 06-04-09 11:18 AM

^ well said.

papsmagu 06-04-09 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by speedjunkie (Post 9234502)
First I'd like to state that I'll be helping RMRanger with his FD problems, not just with coolant but with any other problems he may have. Most of you may not know me but Rich does, being that he's helped me alot over the years also. I'd say he's just about the ONLY helpful person in this thread. Case in point...



Not helpful at all, then wonders why people think this forum is full of dicks. I wonder. I guess you started out being a pro mechanic for your FD huh? Unless you grew up around them, I'd say everyone here started out the way Ranger did. I certainly didn't know much about FDs when I first started, but people who are actually helpful like Rich have helped me tremendously over the years and now I'm pretty confident.



It's not like he doesn't want to fix the problem, he's just not sure how and the buzzer is driving him crazy. Just because he didn't ask "how do I fix this problem?" doesn't mean he wasn't actually asking. I believe he was asking for suggestions of what might have caused it. I agree, there have been many people that have done stupid things and ended up blowing up their engines or worse, but Ranger is actually trying to fix it. We've been talking about all this stuff on another forum. I made the mistake of telling him to come here. Should have told him to go to the other forum where people would help.



You might as well have said that. You told him his FD was in the wrong hands, exactly how many ways is he supposed to take that? It may not be verbatim, but what you said tells me the same thing. Nice try backtracking though.

I agree there is a wealth of info on this forum, unfortunately none of it in THIS thread has come from you.

If you're knowledgeable, how about sharing instead of just shitting on him and saying his FD is in the wrong hands? For crying out loud.



Rich, you and I both know what he said is true. He came here looking for help and answers and instead got shit on. I don't blame him at all.



I'm not sure if he has a manual, I don't remember what he told me, but some people don't know they NEED a manual. I didn't have a manual until over a year into owning mine, I just came to the forum to search for answers and asked knowledgeable people. So what I'm getting at is how is a person supposed to have a resolution in mind when they are coming here to ask for advice?? :dunno: That's kinda putting the cart before the horse isn't it? Doesn't really make sense. And how much more intelligent was his post supposed to be? Is there a grading scale somewhere that he needs to consult before posting?

The only reason I haven't been up to Denver to help him yet is because I just got back from deployment and found that my own FD isn't finished with paint and body work even though it was supposed to be. I'll be sure to go up and help him as soon as I can so he doesn't anger any of you professional FD mechanics anymore.


what are you his dad? :lol::lol: just joking......i was being a bit of a dick before.........my apologies!!!!! glad someone is helping RMRanger with his FD


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