hks circle earth system
 

has anyone tried out the hks circle earth system?

look into Buddy club ground wires, Chuck at rotary extreme can get it for you..it gave me an extra 5 hp on the dyno after installing it

Make your own for $10

Or buy pretty ebay knockoffs for $19.99

i think if your stock grounds are good, installing these aftermarket grounding kits isnt going to help much. sure you gain some hp on paper...but i doubt you'd feel any butt-dyno hp.

The buddy club battery condenser is not just a bunch of wires. It has a control box. You can't make it for $10.

http://www.rotaryextreme.com/buddyclubcondenser.jpg

Chuck

dyno sheet for Buddy Club Condenser
 

http://www.rotaryextreme.com/buddy-club-dyno.gif

HP gain is just one of the benefits. The car is smoother after it's installed.

Chuck

What's in the control box?

Yeah, I use it on my car and it makes the car accelerate much smoother. It's hard to believe this thing actually makes a difference but it woks.

I don't know what's in the box. I just know it works by dyno testing.

Chuck

yet another good product rotary extreme has for sale.. it is very clean looking and the dyno chart does not lie.

my rotary extreme list never stops growing!

Mikey M.

can someone explain to me how it works
and can that goes on my turbo FC with LT8 ?
i dont mind having extra 10 hp

I think it works as a ground and a "voltage stabilization" unit. From what I understand, its premise is similar to monster power units for home audio equipment.
http://www.monstercable.com/power/pr...erence%20Power (I have this unit:D)

If you buy into cleaning up the noise and voltage spikes in a cars electical system, this is maybe the rational for it working. Maybe.....

I think it works as a ground and a "voltage stabilization" unit. From what I understand, its premise is similar to monster power units for home audio equipment.
http://www.monstercable.com/power/pr...erence%20Power (I have this unit:D)

If you buy into cleaning up the noise and voltage spikes in a cars electical system to improve performance, this maybe the rational for it working. Maybe.....

believe it or not,this thing very good on my blue car.it makes my car run,idle much smoother then b 4 and it gave me 5 hp at the wheels.

believe it or not,this thing very good on my blue car.it makes my car run,idle much smoother then b 4 and it gave me 5 hp at the wheels.

That sounds like a good plan. :)

Chuck

It works on the FC as well. It's universal. You can put it on any car you want. When they sent me the first sample, I was skeptical on how it works. It's hard to believe a small box which attaches to the battery and with extra ground wires can make some difference on the HP of the engine. But after dyno testing it on Kaifd3s's car, there is defintely a gain throughout the powerband.


Here is the literature directly from Buddy Club.

" Utilizing the latest racing technology, the Buddy Club Racing Spec Condenser combined an electrical grounding system with a battery current and voltage stabilization control unit. The unit is designed to stabilize electrical "noise" and voltage spikes and offer additional grounding for any vehicles.

Buddy Club Racing Spec Condenser maximizes the efficiency of all factory and aftermarket vehicle electrical systems and as the result you will get smoother engine operation, more efficient electrical component operation, improved electrical current and better fuel economy.

Buddy Club Racing Spec Condenser will work with most other aftermarket ground system and it is a great addition to any high HP force induction vehicles.

Features include:

- Cool blue led lights to spice up your engine bay
- 2 in 1 designed off both Grounding and Stabilize voltage
- Improve Horse power and torque
- Improve Fuel Economy
- Smooth idling with improve engine response
- Improve all electrical component performance
- Improve battery life"

So Chuck, is the HKS Circle Earth System just a bunch of wires, no controller? Any experience w/ it?

Chuck,
What was the condition of KaiFD3S' stock grounds before you put on this unit for testing?
Thanks,
Brian

I wish I could buy this! But I'm already going to order a lot of parts from Rotary Extreme and my budget is going to be a little tight for awhile.

condensor? that's just another name for capacitors. so basically it acts like a line conditioner for grounds.

HKS one is just ground wires. No box. No experience with it.

Chuck

The grounds on Kaifd3s's car are just stock. All the stock ground wires are still there.

Chuck

No worries. I will give you a special price on this if you are purchasing other parts or you have purchased from us.

Chuck

so no test on a car with a 'typical' ground kit installed? Like to see if the improvement came from simply a proper grounding or if the box actually improves it further?

All the grounds on my 1993 FD were oxidized. I cleaned them all up with a 3M Scotch-brite (emery cloth residue rusts), followed-up by some anti-oxidizing electrical paste (e.g., Penetrox by Burndy), and all is well.

IMHO, when you install a NEW grounding kit, all the connections are nice and fresh, hence the better improvement. Alternators already have voltage and spike regulators.

:-) neil

All the grounds on my 1993 FD were oxidized. I cleaned them all up with a 3M Scotch-brite (emery cloth residue rusts), followed-up by some anti-oxidizing electrical paste (e.g., Penetrox by Burndy), and all is well.

IMHO, when you install a NEW grounding kit, all the connections are nice and fresh, hence the better improvement.

Alternators already have voltage and spike regulators, and a battery already acts like a capacitor for voltage smoothing.

:-) neil

If someone sends me a sample, I can have it dyno tested when I do dyno tuning next time.

Chuck

Hello, is this the A'PEXi equivalent:
A'PEXi SUPER GROUND SYSTEM (GROUND WIRE+VOLTAGE CONTROL) :confused:

Curious if anyone would have some experience with the A'PEXi unit or heard of some reviews?

Thanks!
Edgardo

here is the article with a comparo to the circle earth grounding system by HKS

http://www.tprmag.com/issue/8/8_elec_stab.shtml

*looks like you have to buy the magazine for the comparo

I have the Apex ground kit and it looks basically the same as the BuddyClub and Sun Auto units. It connects in parallel with the battery and comes with three wires of differing length to run to the engine, alternator and firewall ground. I assume it just has two capacitors for filtering in the box but there might be more (I havent opened it up to see if there is actually an active circuit in there). There is no way to feel 5 hp on the street, but it seemed that the throttle response in the midrange felt better...maybe a placebo effect he he. The only reason I bought it was since I got it new from a friend dirt cheap, and I wasnt expecting anything, but there are dynos floating around apparently showing gains.

http://www.tprmag.com/issue/8/8_elec_stab.shtml

What are the prices of these units?

I wonder if it impedes (hurts) things like Gtech-Pro's and Turbo Timers, that sense RPM via the High Frequency noise that's generated by the spark discharge !? Since it's now filtered out !?

I was wondering what you do with these kit's if you have relocated your battery to the rear passenger bin? Are these systems still a possibility?

yeah will the buddy club condensor work if you have relocated the battery ??