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JUICEBOX 02-21-08 09:49 PM

Having trouble seeing at night. . .
 
what kinds of headlights/bulbs are you guys using . . . how do you like them. . .
thanks
--Tom--

GoodfellaFD3S 02-21-08 10:00 PM

Catz HIDs, love 'em. That brand isnt availabe anymore but my dad installed the Kaixen and they're surprisingly good quality.

Check this thread, comparo pics (from when my dad had oem lights) towards the bottom:

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...highlight=catz

Mahjik 02-21-08 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by JUICEBOX (Post 7896050)
what kinds of headlights/bulbs are you guys using . . . how do you like them. . .
thanks
--Tom--

A good upgrade to the stock lights are the Sylvania Silverstars:

http://www.sylvania.com/ConsumerProd...ce/Silverstar/

Get some of those, and then adjust your headlight coverage. You'll see a huge improvement.

wthx100 02-21-08 11:27 PM

http://www3.telus.net/public/a5a21790/rx-7/DSC00749.JPG
Heres a pic with some IPF hids sorry for the messy garage.

apexFD 02-22-08 12:16 AM


Originally Posted by Mahjik (Post 7896131)
A good upgrade to the stock lights are the Sylvania Silverstars:

http://www.sylvania.com/ConsumerProd...ce/Silverstar/

Get some of those, and then adjust your headlight coverage. You'll see a huge improvement.


Ya that is the answer i got when i started searching for good bulbs, seems to be one hell of a differance in the pictures on the sylvania website.




=Ben

4CN A1R 02-22-08 01:19 AM

i drive with the highbeams on all the time, noone ever flashes me...

bajaman 02-22-08 07:33 AM

Sylvania Silverstars for the win. Obviously if you have the bucks and inclination and time, HIDs are THE way to go but...that just isn't an option for a lot of people.
Putting 10% of the car's total value into headlights is not something most people want to do...

JUICEBOX 02-22-08 09:10 AM

Thanks a lot guys... very helpful... i will be getting the Sylvania Silverstars with the next paycheck.... can't really afford the HIDs right now but these should work great . . . anyone know the retail on them off the top of your head. . . if not don't worry about it. . .

adam c 02-22-08 09:31 AM

The silverstars are not that expensive. Seems like about $20-25 each. I have been very happy with mine.

fdeeznutz 02-22-08 09:36 AM

$50 bucks seems expensive when you can get most HID low beam kits for around $100.

Here's a set for 83.00 shipped
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/XENON...spagenameZWDVW

GoodfellaFD3S 02-22-08 10:49 AM

What kind of quality are they though? I can attest that the Kaixens my dad has been running for years are top notch, and they werent very expensive.....there was a used set for sale here on the forum recently, do a search.

P.S. In that comparison thread I posted (did the OP look at it?) my dad's FD *had* silverstars installed. Doesnt look so impressive now, does it ;)?

fdeeznutz 02-22-08 12:38 PM

Most of the HID kits I've seen lately are no name companys. A few of my friends have been using a kit that just says HID on the box, no company name anywhere. They seem to be working well, but only time will tell.

NightmareSeven 02-22-08 08:56 PM

I have stock lights and Sylvania Silverstar bulbs and I can say that I can't see more than 10 feet ahead of me while driving.Going to buy some HID's when I get my car on the road again.

Aeka GSR 02-22-08 09:07 PM

DOT approved hella lights.

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/8040/hella1ya1.jpg
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/2913/hella2bd2.jpg

Aeka GSR 02-22-08 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by fdeeznutz (Post 7897256)
$50 bucks seems expensive when you can get most HID low beam kits for around $100.

Here's a set for 83.00 shipped
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/XENON...spagenameZWDVW

yeah those are good if you don't want a focused beam and want to blind everyone in your path.

Mahjik 02-22-08 09:19 PM

You know. I'm not convinced that most of you here on this forum need to go to an eye doctor rather than look for HID kits. If you cannot see with the stock headlights, then either:

1. The headlights are adjusted wrong and you need to adjust them
2. You are freaking blind and need to have your eyes checked

People, like myself, were driving long before Xenon and HID were even around. Yet, we weren't crashing into things we couldn't see.

Aeka GSR 02-22-08 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by Mahjik (Post 7899720)
You know. I'm not convinced that most of you here on this forum need to go to an eye doctor rather than look for HID kits. If you cannot see with the stock headlights, then either:

1. The headlights are adjusted wrong and you need to adjust them
2. You are freaking blind and need to have your eyes checked

People, like myself, were driving long before Xenon and HID were even around. Yet, we weren't crashing into things we couldn't see.

Try driving a 1800 mile road trip with the stock lights. It is down right scary, and yes they were adjusted. Also note that my replacement lights are not HID. HID is garbage unless you have a proper lens anyway. The stock lights are just plain shit compared to any halogen powered car that I've owned.

Mahjik 02-22-08 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by Aeka GSR (Post 7899740)
Try driving a 1800 mile road trip with the stock lights. It is down right scary

Been there, done that. The stock headlights with:

a) proper adjusted height
b) decent bulbs

Are just fine. Heck, I've even driven an evening track session with the stock lights before using Silverstars. That's a lot more intense rather than just cruising on a highway. And guess what, I could see. ;)

NightmareSeven 02-22-08 09:47 PM

:)

Originally Posted by Mahjik (Post 7899720)
You know. I'm not convinced that most of you here on this forum need to go to an eye doctor rather than look for HID kits. If you cannot see with the stock headlights, then either:

1. The headlights are adjusted wrong and you need to adjust them
2. You are freaking blind and need to have your eyes checked

People, like myself, were driving long before Xenon and HID were even around. Yet, we weren't crashing into things we couldn't see.

Yeah but compared to modern cars the stock FD lights suck major A$$ I had a 93 honda accord that had better nighttime visibility than my FD,but then again one of the headlights on my FD is faded projecting a yellow light while the other projects a nice white. so that most likely is partly responsible for my poor visibility at night.

When you can get a good set of HID's or something similar for less than $300 why not? The added degree of saftey with the much improved visibility you get at night is a great investment in my book

adam c 02-23-08 12:25 AM


Originally Posted by NightmareSeven (Post 7899654)
I have stock lights and Sylvania Silverstar bulbs and I can say that I can't see more than 10 feet ahead of me while driving.Going to buy some HID's when I get my car on the road again.


If you can't see more than 10 feet ahead of you with stock lights, you should turn in your drivers license.

While the newer HID lights are certainly better, the old lights still provide very good lighting. Safety isn't an issue with the old lights.

DaveW 02-23-08 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by Mahjik (Post 7899720)
You know. I'm not convinced that most of you here on this forum need to go to an eye doctor rather than look for HID kits. If you cannot see with the stock headlights, then either:

1. The headlights are adjusted wrong and you need to adjust them
2. You are freaking blind and need to have your eyes checked

People, like myself, were driving long before Xenon and HID were even around. Yet, we weren't crashing into things we couldn't see.

HAHA...

I just decided yesterday to install Silverstar Ultras after reading this thread, but I have had no problem driving my FD at night with the OE lights and bulbs.

And I'm 65 years old...

bajaman 02-23-08 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S (Post 7897435)
What kind of quality are they though? I can attest that the Kaixens my dad has been running for years are top notch, and they werent very expensive.....there was a used set for sale here on the forum recently, do a search.

P.S. In that comparison thread I posted (did the OP look at it?) my dad's FD *had* silverstars installed. Doesnt look so impressive now, does it ;)?

Now, now...to be fair you would have needed a comparison picture with THREE cars, one stock, one Silverstar equipped, and one with HIDs. :)

DaveW 02-23-08 08:58 AM

And, light alignment makes a huge difference when looking at their intensity from the front - like what happens when you are being blinded by the lights coming at you from a car overloaded at the rear.

Dave

NightmareSeven 02-23-08 09:52 AM

I don't actually mean that I can't see more than 10 feet but just that the lights provide poor lighting.Maybe it's just do to the cars old age.

But if you really think that they provide "Really good lighting" as you say, then your definitely one of the select few who does

Mahjik 02-23-08 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by NightmareSeven (Post 7900781)
But if you really think that they provide "Really good lighting" as you say, then your definitely one of the select few who does

Nobody is saying the stock lighting is "great". They are saying that if you cannot "see" with the stock lighting, then something else is wrong. I will agree that todays cars provide "more" (not necessarily better) lighting. However, I've never needed to see 20 feet off to the side of the road myself like what the Xenon's/HID's do. :)

A lot of it is probably down to age. If you were born in '84 like your profile says, then you are used to what the cars provide today. Those of us much older have driven well before the newer lighting was around so the stock lighting is "adequate".


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