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tnn 06-16-09 02:24 AM

Have anyone used this intake system?
 
I'm searching for a reasonable intake system and came across this:

http://www.srmotorsports.com/sr93intk.html

have anyone used or heard of this system? I searched the forum and look like some bad talk about srmotorsports overall, but nothing about this system.

thx

4CN A1R 06-16-09 03:50 AM

cant really wrong with an intake. $500 is a little much to be spending on one though..in my opinion

i went a little overbaord and spent $450 on my hks rs intakes but i love them. there gorgeous and a well rounded intake. id say its all about preference. srmotorsports intake is close to a cold air so if thats what your looking for and you have the money....go for it

there are many decent intakes like the apexi that sell for 100-200 here on the forum. if your looking for something a little more affordable

mrjohnnnys 06-16-09 08:18 AM

500 is a crazy amount. for an intake, I would go custom. I say lay it out in your engine bay with some cardboard, so you know for sure it fits. Then Either you, or a buddy weld something together which is practically the same thing. Then go buy K&N filters somewhere else. Unless you are trying to buy a name brand, go custom, youl be spending half or less, for the same performance gain

RotaryRocket93 06-16-09 08:35 AM

Whoa! Thats a bit touchy for a CAI

purerx7 06-16-09 08:37 AM

$539 is a lot of money for what you’re getting. The only intake we sell that is more expensive then that is the autoexe, but that is a piece of art and could be hung on a wall. I am sure the intake will work great, but I could not justify the $539 price tag when it is so un-aesthetically pleasing.
http://www.rx7boutique.com/images/autoexe.jpg

RotaryRocket93 06-16-09 08:47 AM

That Apexi intake IS a work of art....

purerx7 06-16-09 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by RotaryRocket93 (Post 9292376)
That Apexi intake IS a work of art....

AutoExe* (the apexi and gruppe m sticker were added by the owner at a later part in time)

Apexi intake is the polar opposite and is actually quite similar to the blitz sus intake. What is nice about the autoexe intake is several things:
1. It looks freakin sweet.
2. Very functional since it provides direct ducting to the intake
3. Cooler intake charge since it is inclosed and you dont have to worry about excessive engine heat.
4. Acts *kind of* like a radiator cooling panel since it covers a good portion of the front of the engine bay, it provides better cooling to the radiator.
5. It looks freakin sweet.

You get what you pay for, this is for people who want the best or dont mind dropping $1000+ on a ti exhaust. MSRP is close to $1000! We sell it for $725, which is still a lot of money. Not to many in the US, less then 10 would be my guess.

evot23 06-16-09 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by tnn (Post 9292051)
I'm searching for a reasonable intake system and came across this:

http://www.srmotorsports.com/sr93intk.html

have anyone used or heard of this system? I searched the forum and look like some bad talk about srmotorsports overall, but nothing about this system.

thx


This seems to be the evolution of the CAI from back when M2 was making them out of CF. SR came out with theirs that was similar and also Ntech. I've had this style before with my R1 and the SMIC. Outside of looks, wasn't any gain in performance on my dyno tune vs having the open type air intake like Pettits.

adam c 06-16-09 09:10 AM

Those prices are crazy. Modify your stock airbox for better performance than any of them, at a fraction of the cost. Pm me.

Wo:Deep 06-16-09 09:21 AM

Yes, the price looks very high!....
the Auto-Exe Part is really nice...
If you are not scared of high prices, you can also go with the KnightSports Cold air intake.
It works perfect with the KS-V-Mount Kit on my Rx7... I would never change it to anything else.
http://www.neweraparts.com/DesktopMo...jpg&PORTALID=0

http://www.neweraparts.com/DesktopMo...jpg&PORTALID=0

unfortunately the only source I know is neweraparts and they want to have 775 gbp (thats 1270$)

mrb63083 06-16-09 10:37 AM

^love it.

purerx7 06-16-09 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by adam c (Post 9292426)
Those prices are crazy. Modify your stock airbox for better performance than any of them, at a fraction of the cost. Pm me.

That is quite a claim. At least support rx7club and become a vendor if you are going to promote your product like that by under-cutting the rest of the intakes/vendors based on a subjective opinion. I would love to see data that supports your intake gives the best performance. It might be the cheapest, but I highly doubt it is the most effective, I would certaintly trust AutoExe r&d before yours. Do not take personal offense to this post.


Originally Posted by Wo:Deep (Post 9292445)
Yes, the price looks very high!....
the Auto-Exe Part is really nice...
If you are not scared of high prices, you can also go with the KnightSports Cold air intake.
It works perfect with the KS-V-Mount Kit on my Rx7... I would never change it to anything else.


unfortunately the only source I know is neweraparts and they want to have 775 gbp (thats 1270$)

We sell it for $500usd, used.

gracer7-rx7 06-16-09 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by purerx7 (Post 9292644)
That is quite a claim. At least support rx7club and become a vendor if you are going to promote your product like that by under-cutting the rest of the intakes/vendors based on a subjective opinion. I would love to see data that supports your intake gives the best performance. It might be the cheapest, but I highly doubt it is the most effective, I would certaintly trust AutoExe r&d before yours. Do not take personal offense to this post.


I think it is a pretty valid claim.

history lesson for some:
http://www.rx7.org/Robinette/coldair.htm
http://www.fd3s.net/intake.html
There are other posts on here for anyone that wants to research further.

And I do take some offense to your response even if it isn't directed at me.

And why should he be a vendor if he isn't selling a product? Why can't we support, inform and help the community about options? Or is the purpose of this forum solely for vendors to sell their wares?

tnn 06-16-09 11:53 AM

thanks everyone for replying and suggestion. yes I know it's high that was why I asked if anyone use it and worth it. The aluminum box is very attractive but bottom line is it's just like K&N filters with stock air box.

purerx7 06-16-09 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by gracer7-rx7 (Post 9292670)
I think it is a pretty valid claim.

history lesson for some:
http://www.rx7.org/Robinette/coldair.htm
http://www.fd3s.net/intake.html
There are other posts on here for anyone that wants to research further.

And I do take some offense to your response even if it isn't directed at me.

And why should he be a vendor if he isn't selling a product? Why can't we support, inform and help the community about options? Or is the purpose of this forum solely for vendors to sell their wares?

1. It was my understanding that he was selling a "cheap bastard" kit, if this is not true, then I apologize. I am all for community support, however if someone trys to say their product is the best and undercuts a supporting vendor, then I have a problem. However, if he is not selling a product, then that is not the case and I apologize. If it was public information, I don't see why he would request someone to PM him instead of just providing a link or telling them to search under a specific subject.

2. I hope you realize that it is vendor accounts that pay to keep this site up and running.

3. I read through both of your links, nowhere in there do they say that modifying the stock intake is the best intake, which is what adam c claims. They claim, that for the money, it is a great alternative which I 100% agree. He is saying it is the best intake for performance gains, which is highly subjective and not true. I find it hard to make a conclusive statement, when the test was against only two other intakes. Again, it is a great mod for the money, it is not the best intake available. This looks more efficient to me...
http://www.autoexe.co.jp/car/RX-7(FD...e/mfd959zu.jpg

Edit: Did a search and adam does charge for his kit - this is from a few years ago, so not sure what the right price is.

Originally Posted by adam c (Post 3324032)
Heres a link to the Cheap Bastard Intake thread:

https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/cheap-stock-airbox-mod-121491/

It makes power as good or better than the expensive cold air intakes. It costs a lot less ($70 shipped), and will pass the visual at smog time.

So, do you think it is fair that he sells a product, makes money and does not pay a vendor fee? Even if he makes a minimal amount, I could careless about the vendor fee, it is that he is undermining other products/vendors to sell his product. I am not trying to be a dick, but you can see my point?

DigDug 06-16-09 12:23 PM

DO NOT BUY FROM SR MOTORSPORTS. Do a search to learn about their criminal practices.

Not to mention their prices are absolutely ridiculous.

djseven 06-16-09 12:46 PM

I would love for someone to do a dyno comparison on these aftermarket intakes compared to the stock intake at anything under 12-13lbs. Assuming the OP is running the stock IC I see very little good that would come from an aftermarket intake. Most are just hot air intakes and do more harm than good. It you are running an aftermarket IC do yourself a favor and get one of the box style intakes or something like the Autoexe deal posted above. The other open air filters are just for looks and in my opinion likely hurt performance.

But whatever you do, be careful dealing with SR, they have a lengthy track record for being less than honest.

theorie 06-16-09 12:58 PM

that intake is a clone of the M2 Airbox, which used to be sold in carbon fiber.

it's a great design imo. fresh air comes from below, though the front bumper, its narrow, leaving plent of room for a V-mount or stock mount intercooler, and since it's CF it resists heat soak - not sure how well the aluminum one does this, but i'm sure you could apply some of that gold-foil heat reflective material if you so desired.

here's my M2 airbox.

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_i...0053_large.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_i...0055_large.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_i...0056_large.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_i...0067_large.jpg

like i said, plenty of room for an intercooler... (this custom one is the same size as the pettit cool charge III)
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_i...0251_large.jpg

if you can find a used one in carbon fiber - i would say get it. they're hard to come by these days.

cheers.

tnn 06-16-09 01:13 PM

^ nice. thanks for the info. :-D

Supernaut 06-16-09 01:15 PM

Woah. I think Im going to shot for a CF intake box now. purerx7, hit me up!

gracer7-rx7 06-16-09 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by purerx7 (Post 9292769)
1. It was my understanding that he was selling a "cheap bastard" kit, if this is not true, then I apologize. I am all for community support, however if someone trys to say their product is the best and undercuts a supporting vendor, then I have a problem. However, if he is not selling a product, then that is not the case and I apologize. If it was public information, I don't see why he would request someone to PM him instead of just providing a link or telling them to search under a specific subject.

2. I hope you realize that it is vendor accounts that pay to keep this site up and running.

3. I read through both of your links, nowhere in there do they say that modifying the stock intake is the best intake, which is what adam c claims. They claim, that for the money, it is a great alternative which I 100% agree. He is saying it is the best intake for performance gains, which is highly subjective and not true. I find it hard to make a conclusive statement, when the test was against only two other intakes. Again, it is a great mod for the money, it is not the best intake available. This looks more efficient to me...
http://www.autoexe.co.jp/car/RX-7(FD...e/mfd959zu.jpg

Edit: Did a search and adam does charge for his kit - this is from a few years ago, so not sure what the right price is.


So, do you think it is fair that he sells a product, makes money and does not pay a vendor fee? Even if he makes a minimal amount, I could careless about the vendor fee, it is that he is undermining other products/vendors to sell his product. I am not trying to be a dick, but you can see my point?


I know you are not trying to be a dick and I understand your point. I respect you and the fact that you stepped in to offer rare parts and high customer service experience. I hope you can understand mine as well. I'd hate this forum to become something where we can only talk about products that the advertising vendors offer. That kind of closed wall / censored mentality and inability to have free discussions would drive me away.


1) and 3)
There is really no such thing as "Best Intake" or "Best" anything really. Any mod you make or part you buy is designed for a given set of compromises. Different products meet different needs but none is really "Best" as each can have different pros/cons.

Adam never said that modifying the stock intake was the "Best". Nor is Adam the only person that has ever done the mod to the stock airbox. That autoexe intake you sell is pretty damn cool but it is a bit pricey for some people's budgets. Which is why people come onto these forums to discuss different parts and get feedback.

Is it fair for him to charge a few bucks to perform the mod for someone too lazy or not handy enough to do the job themselves? I think it is. Same thing for the guy that does the '99 style conversions to the tail lights. Does it cut into your sales? Doubt it. The guy paying $50-70 to mod a stock intake obviously isn't the same kind of person who is interested in a $500 intake or authentic tail lights.

If you and other vendors offer products that meet the varying needs then everybody wins.

2)
yes, I know your vendor fees help to keep the site running. And I know they are pretty damn expensive.

I also know that w/o us being on here the vendors wouldn't have a good easy way to reach the community and interact with us and learn what parts we are most interested in.

Its a symbiotic relationship.

gracer7-rx7 06-16-09 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by djseven (Post 9292879)
I would love for someone to do a dyno comparison on these aftermarket intakes compared to the stock intake at anything under 12-13lbs. Assuming the OP is running the stock IC I see very little good that would come from an aftermarket intake. Most are just hot air intakes and do more harm than good. It you are running an aftermarket IC do yourself a favor and get one of the box style intakes or something like the Autoexe deal posted above. The other open air filters are just for looks and in my opinion likely hurt performance.

But whatever you do, be careful dealing with SR, they have a lengthy track record for being less than honest.


FWIW, I personally have used both a modded stock intake and an open Pettit style intake. At 10 PSI, I only noticed a small difference on the butt dyno. The open intake was louder though. The stock box did offer cooler air temps than the open intake on a lightly modded stock car using a Blitz SMIC.

So pick the pros/cons you can live with and use the intake you can live with. :)

kyleaudio 06-16-09 01:43 PM

if you do want that box, www.rotaryengine.com sells an identical box for about $400, send them an emali or give them a call tho, the website isnt very good. i got mine from them and i am happy with it. it is a very tight fit tho so it takes a bit of pushing and shoving to get it in there. but this box fits with both the M2 large smic and the pettit CC3 innercooler kits which are probubally the largest stock mount innercoolers availible.
kyle.

purerx7 06-16-09 01:47 PM

Could not agree more, and that was very well put. Without forum members we would be out of business, especially me. I appreciate that. I agree with everything you say, but just to clarify:

Originally Posted by gracer7-rx7 (Post 9292967)

Adam never said that modifying the stock intake was the "Best".



Originally Posted by adam c (Post 9292426)
Those prices are crazy. Modify your stock airbox for better performance than any of them, at a fraction of the cost. Pm me.


Could be me just taking it too literal, but what if another member comes on here and takes his information as 100% factual. Don't get me wrong, he probably knows more about modifying the stock intake then anyone else on here. Just don't want the facts to get mixed up, we both know how much incorrect information is already here on the forum.



Originally Posted by gracer7-rx7 (Post 9292967)
Is it fair for him to charge a few bucks to perform the mod for someone too lazy or not handy enough to do the job themselves? I think it is. Same thing for the guy that does the '99 style conversions to the tail lights. Does it cut into your sales? Doubt it. The guy paying $50-70 to mod a stock intake obviously isn't the same kind of person who is interested in a $500 intake or authentic tail lights.

If you and other vendors offer products that meet the varying needs then everybody wins.
.

Agree here too, I don't think he should have to pay the vendor fee if he is making a minimal amount. However, if he is not a vendor, I don't think he has the right to say he has the best intake which inexplicitly undercuts other vendors. Hope that makes sense?

Dammit, I am stubborn. I concede and will just say you win :)

adam c 06-16-09 02:19 PM

Fact #1. You want the intake that provides the most & coolest air that you can get. That's an indisputable fact.

Fact #2. The stock airbox is the largest cold air intake available for our cars.

It has room for a huge flat K&N filter with nothing to obstruct airflow.

Fact #3. With proper modification, a stock airbox can be opened up to provide virtually no airflow restriction by keeping the original oem intake, and adding a huge secondary source for cool air.

I have never seen an aftermarket cold air intake with 2 cold air sources.

My conclusion based on facts listed above: A properly modified stock airbox will outperform anything else by providing an unrestricted flow of cool air. The only potential problem is room. With a big intercooler, the stock airbox won't fit.

I am no longer allowed to promote my Cheap Bastard airbox kit. The people running this forum have given me a "spammed advertisement" violation for breaking the forum rules (not paying to advertise). I was given no warning before being given the violation. Since I make virtually no money from selling my kits, I can't pay the fees. I was told to ask people to pm me for info. I have stopped production of my kits. One remains. Once it is sold there will be no more.................

I can't understand why the owners of this forum care about someone like me. I'm not making any money. I do it mostly to provide a cheap service to the members.

If you don't hear from me for a while, it will be because they banned me for writing this.


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