Who else has a notchy 2nd gear?
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Who else has a notchy 2nd gear?
So i just replaced my tranny with a low mileage unit from japan, and i notice the 1-2 shift is still very grindy and notchy. Is this a pretty common problem for our 5spd trannies?
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I have a stock usdm tranny with a Gotham Racing short shifter, and second is very notchy at times. I am curious however as to whether its is the shifter being broken in or not. just my 2 cents.
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Mine is too. Double-clutching the 1-2 shift smooths it, but usually I settle for gently snapping it into 2nd.
I bought a spare syncrho set from mazdaformance.com for cheap and soon I'll be dropping to the tranny to fix that synchro and some other stuff. Switching to Redline and changing shifter bushings had no effect.
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I bought a spare syncrho set from mazdaformance.com for cheap and soon I'll be dropping to the tranny to fix that synchro and some other stuff. Switching to Redline and changing shifter bushings had no effect.
Dave
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Same problem here. Car only has 35k miles on it and its really notchy....I was thinking maybe changing the gear oil would help...but from what dgeesaman just said that wont help either...
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I still think replacing the shifter bushings and putting in NEO gear oil (see the other thread about it - I think it was 75-90HD or something) is a worthwhile idea.
But the 2nd and 3rd synchros are double cone (3 piece) design. They are designed for extra heavy duty, but I wonder if a little grit can get between them and make them notchy. We'll see when mine comes out.
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But the 2nd and 3rd synchros are double cone (3 piece) design. They are designed for extra heavy duty, but I wonder if a little grit can get between them and make them notchy. We'll see when mine comes out.
Dave
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Mine is notchy as well and also used to come with a large clunk right after I put it in 2nd...this was before I started rev matching. My pops rx8 has the same clunk and his second may even be notchy going in.
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mine is a bit notchy too. i have a B&M short shift kit.
however, i drove a friend's car recently who had a factory shifter (no short shift kit) and it shifted a lot more smoothly. same mileage on both cars ~120k miles both running Redline.
however, i drove a friend's car recently who had a factory shifter (no short shift kit) and it shifted a lot more smoothly. same mileage on both cars ~120k miles both running Redline.
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mine was very notchy in the 93 and the transmission was rebuilt by mazda
its also been pretty hard in the 94 with only 47k miles and I just added a pettit short shifter and its even worse but I don't mind it I like the feel.
If I shift from 1st to 2nd very fast at high rpms I could make it grind on both cars even if the clutch was all the way down to the floor while putting it in gear
I say this is normal since everyone has the same description.
its also been pretty hard in the 94 with only 47k miles and I just added a pettit short shifter and its even worse but I don't mind it I like the feel.
If I shift from 1st to 2nd very fast at high rpms I could make it grind on both cars even if the clutch was all the way down to the floor while putting it in gear
I say this is normal since everyone has the same description.
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Mine is also notchy AFTER it has been mostly engaged.... seems similar to the 5th gear synchro problem that can be partially cured with better oil. Mine is smoother when i shift out of first, let the shifter go back to neutral, and then into 2nd (???)
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Originally Posted by teamstealth
Mine is smoother when i shift out of first, let the shifter go back to neutral, and then into 2nd (???)
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Originally Posted by 1revn3rdgen
I have the same problem.I was thinking of rebuilding my tranny.
I dunno how much that would help. My new 40k tranny from japan still has the same grind that my original 108k tranny has, and the JDM one has the shorter 5th gear so it is newer...doesn't seem like the problem has been resolved by mazda.
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Last time i had the notchy prob it was on my Eclipse. I swapped the oil with penzoil Synchromesh and that helped out a ton....might try the same on the FD...
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Originally Posted by teamstealth
Mine is also notchy AFTER it has been mostly engaged.... seems similar to the 5th gear synchro problem that can be partially cured with better oil. Mine is smoother when i shift out of first, let the shifter go back to neutral, and then into 2nd (???)
Rev-matching is not the same thing: rev-matching is having the engine RPM at the right speed so that going into gear avoids the clutch having to adjust the engine speed. Most of us do it naturally on upshifts. Rev-matching is what you're supposed to do on downshifts. Rev-matching makes the car engage much smoother, but unless you double-clutch, the synchros will still need to adjust the speed of the lay(?) shaft.
(I think it's called the layshaft - I'm too lazy to dig out my reference to check)
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Originally Posted by iceman4357
i thinks its that we need to put better oil in it. Everyone that i have talked to has said that NEO, Royal purple, or Redline has helped a lot.
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Originally Posted by BlueRex
Fluid changes were the very first thing I did to my RX-7 and I will attest to the huge difference redline made in my tranny. Before I had redline in 2nd gear was very knotchy especially when the tranny was cold. After putting redline in every gear became a lot smoother.