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Moe Greene May 2, 2017 08:57 PM

Front Cover O-Ring difference
 
Anyone know what the differnce between these two front cover O-rings are?
Both are from atkins, one came with the front gasket the other I purchased separately.


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Sgtblue May 3, 2017 10:18 AM

Are they the same size? And is that the metal front cover gasket?

DaleClark May 3, 2017 10:22 AM

That's for the paper front cover gasket. If you have time, order a metal front cover gasket. You don't need an o-ring with it, just make sure both surfaces are clean (no little gasket bits), throw the metal gasket on, and install the front cover.

Paper gasket you want a SUPER thin smear of grey RTV on then use the oring and teflon spacer. I would use the whiter of the two, that's the Mazda part, the other may be one they are sourcing from somewhere else. It's the upper/left-hand one in both of your pics. Finally, when the front cover is on, you use a razor blade to trim the little bit of gasket that sticks out the bottom.

I had a number of front cover issues on my FC back when I built my first motor. This is something you want DEAD RIGHT, pulling a front cover in the car is the biggest pain in the ass possible.

Dale

neit_jnf May 3, 2017 02:15 PM

metal gasket with or without sealant?

DaleClark May 3, 2017 03:31 PM

No sealant on metal gasket. Both surfaces clean, install and torque front cover to spec.

Dale

j9fd3s May 3, 2017 10:14 PM

you might want a dab of sealant at the corners where it meets the oil pan

Moe Greene May 4, 2017 12:02 AM


Originally Posted by DaleClark (Post 12180235)
That's for the paper front cover gasket. If you have time, order a metal front cover gasket. You don't need an o-ring with it, just make sure both surfaces are clean (no little gasket bits), throw the metal gasket on, and install the front cover.

Paper gasket you want a SUPER thin smear of grey RTV on then use the oring and teflon spacer. I would use the whiter of the two, that's the Mazda part, the other may be one they are sourcing from somewhere else. It's the upper/left-hand one in both of your pics. Finally, when the front cover is on, you use a razor blade to trim the little bit of gasket that sticks out the bottom.

I had a number of front cover issues on my FC back when I built my first motor. This is something you want DEAD RIGHT, pulling a front cover in the car is the biggest pain in the ass possible.

Dale

Thanks for the response Dale,

(EDIT)
Where can I find a metal front gasket?

Also should I maybe look into ordering from ray crowe?

DaleClark May 4, 2017 08:52 AM

Atkins Rotary has the metal gasket. I think it's a non-US item so Mazda USA doesn't have it.

It's like $40 last I saw.

Dale

13.bREW May 4, 2017 09:02 AM

The RX8 Gaskets are metal and work with the FC front cover, Not sure about FDs. That's what I ordered from atkins. Also I smeared a layer of permetex anaerobic gasket maker on both the front cover and the front Iron.

7krayziboi May 4, 2017 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 13bREW
The RX8 Gaskets are metal and work with the FC front cover, Not sure about FDs. That's what I ordered from atkins. Also I smeared a layer of permetex anaerobic gasket maker on both the front cover and the front Iron.

The Rx8 Front cover gasket "does not" fit the FD because 2 or 3 holes are not aligned properly iirc . I think it would be stupid to use it over the FD metal gasket.

The good thing about it tho is..
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Moe Greene Jun 10, 2017 06:56 PM

I purchased the front metal gasket, thanks for the advice everyone!

If anyone is having a hard time finding it I noticed its sometimes referenced as the cosmos 20b metal front cover.

j9fd3s Jun 10, 2017 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by Moe Greene (Post 12190842)
I purchased the front metal gasket, thanks for the advice everyone!

If anyone is having a hard time finding it I noticed its sometimes referenced as the cosmos 20b metal front cover.

it is an N390 part number, so since an N390 is a Cosmo part number (2 rotor, 3 rotor is an NF01) we refer to it as a Cosmo part, and it is.

the Cosmo came with a paper gasket until 12/1995, when they switched to this metal one, and the FD switched to this same part at the same time.


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