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spaceman_spiff 03-25-09 10:15 PM

engine not starting
 
hey guys, want some input here because i think it's probably a real simple problem and i just want a 2nd opinion on what the issue might be. basically, my car won't start.

the issue at first was a weak battery, i would have to constantly jump start it with cables and it would die after a few days, requiring me to jump it again. after the last time it died, i stopped driving it for about a month and drove my honda instead and just let the FD sit in my garage. about a week ago, i decided to jump it again and was able to successfully turn it on. upon doin this, i turned the car back off and disconnected the cables and tried to start it again, only this time no response. so i tried to re-connect the cables and the car would just crank and turn (sound like it was just about to start but couldn't quite get over the hump). i

did this a bunch of times and got frustrated, eventually went to autozone and had them re-test my battery and they said it was dead so i bought a new one and installed it. now the car doesn't need any cables to crank (or turn? i forget the difference) and all the electronics start up just fine, but the engine won't quite start up fully still. i suspect my starter is dead or maybe the engine could be flooded from trying to start my car too much? any input is appreciated. thanks.

mono4lamar 03-25-09 10:49 PM

My guess is deflood the car. If you can't figure it out bring the car to a reputable rotary shop.

djseven 03-25-09 11:40 PM

You fouled the plugs, go spend $24.00 on new plugs and enjoy the car. ;)

spaceman_spiff 03-26-09 08:33 AM

is it more likely de-flood or change the plugs? i guess i can check it out on my own. nobody thinks it's the starter? how costly is it to de-flood the engine?

djseven 03-26-09 09:24 AM

Any time you flood the car you should change the plugs ;) No it is not the starter it is the plugs, trust me, they are easy to flood. I have seen these cars foul plugs that have less than 2 miles on them. It happens most often when someone tries to start the car with a weak battery or they start the car to move it about 30 feet and immediately shut it off. Everytime you start a fd you should let it run at least 5 minutes.

Just change the plugs :)

rx7brandon 03-26-09 09:29 AM

when in dought change the plugs!!
any fairly modded 7 eats pkugs for lunch.
buy a case of trailing pugs and change only the leading ones with them. your trailing plugs don't do much only clean up for emissions.( i know someone will argue that they do help with hp. they r correct 2-4% but they r the ones that also produce detonation.) i only put new trailing plugs in for track or tuning. i'll lose the 10 hp on the street to keep my engine.

spaceman_spiff 03-26-09 10:12 AM

ok thanks i'll look into that. i heard changing the plugs is a pain, can someone direct me to what kind of plugs i should invest?

djseven 03-26-09 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by spaceman_spiff (Post 9073955)
ok thanks i'll look into that. i heard changing the plugs is a pain, can someone direct me to what kind of plugs i should invest?

Changing the plugs is a 15 minute process. Just remove the intake elbow attached to the throttle body and you can reach everything easily. You will need a 21mm or 13/16 spark plug socket or deep well socket. Just run 4 trailing NGK 9s.

spaceman_spiff 03-26-09 11:51 AM

thanks a lot guys, you all get e-props

spaceman_spiff 03-28-09 10:29 AM

ok..so i'm about to go and buy these NGK's but i don't see the NGK 9's you recommended.

http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/product...x.asp?mode=nml

they seem to have multiple kinds for different intents and purposes...which one would probably be suited best for the rx7?

Mahjik 03-28-09 10:42 AM

Get them in bulk from Rock Auto: http://www.rockauto.com

If you plan to keep your RX7 for a while, you'll need 'em.

djseven 03-28-09 11:22 AM

Just go to Oreillys and ask for 4 trailing spark plugs for a 93 rx7. Total should be right at $24.00 give or take a few pennies due to your state sales tax. When you order them tell them to try and keep two sets in stock at all times, they do that for me at my oreillys.

Ernesto13B 03-28-09 10:38 PM

To remove the spark plugs alone, you do not need to remove anything under the hood. Jack the car up, remove each spark plug wire and let the wire hang, and replace the plugs, reattach the wires, done.

The only time you have to take things apart under the hood, is when you're replacing the spark plug wires

djseven 03-29-09 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by Ernesto13B (Post 9080774)
To remove the spark plugs alone, you do not need to remove anything under the hood. Jack the car up, remove each spark plug wire and let the wire hang, and replace the plugs, reattach the wires, done.

The only time you have to take things apart under the hood, is when you're replacing the spark plug wires

Its much quicker to do it from the top, no need to jack the car up or anything. Some people dont even have to remove the elbow to get to the plugs if you are skinny enough.

David


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