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aznwired Oct 7, 2007 05:00 PM

Engine Codes
 
I recently plugged the Snap-On computer onto the FD to check the system (won't start, has good compression, good spark, fuel).

Here is the list of problems the computer displayed.

Engine codes:
09 Atmospheric pressure sensor circuit
11 Intake air temp sensor problem
12 Throttle sensor or circuit problem
13 Vaccum sensor or circuit problem
20 Metering oil pump position senor
23 Fuel thermosensor open or short circuit

.... I don't even know where to start, for #20 I think I need a new oil sender. But I don't know what the others are about...

Any ideas?

BTW this is my first time owning an FD...

aznwired Oct 7, 2007 05:39 PM

Anybody know a good Rotary Shop close to Havelock, NC???

Sgtblue Oct 7, 2007 05:51 PM

I've dealt with two of those issues.
Intake Air Thermosensor is easy enough, but you'll have to pull the upper intake manifold to access the sensor. The Metering Oil Pump sensor is part of the metering oil pump assembly and, as far as I could tell it's more practical to change out the whole thing.
----> https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/changing-oil-metering-pump-omp-while-car-my-how-675341/

wstrohm Oct 7, 2007 07:13 PM

Have you first disconnected the battery to reset the codes, and then restarted the engine and verified that they do come back? The PCME will remember the codes forever once stored, even if the problem has gone away, unless it is de-powered.

aznwired Oct 7, 2007 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by wstrohm (Post 7397049)
Have you first disconnected the battery to reset the codes, and then restarted the engine and verified that they do come back? The PCME will remember the codes forever once stored, even if the problem has gone away, unless it is de-powered.

Yup, disconnected the positive terminal on the battery and press the brake a couple of times before I test it.

aznwired Oct 7, 2007 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by Sgtblue (Post 7396867)
I've dealt with two of those issues.
Intake Air Thermosensor is easy enough, but you'll have to pull the upper intake manifold to access the sensor. The Metering Oil Pump sensor is part of the metering oil pump assembly and, as far as I could tell it's more practical to change out the whole thing.
----> https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=675341

Thanks! Got 2 down and now those stupid "circuit" problems...I will have to go through the wiring diagrams...what a pain.

aznwired Oct 8, 2007 09:41 PM

Anybody have any clue on where I should start looking for these engine codes:

09 Atmospheric pressure sensor circuit
12 Throttle sensor or circuit problem
13 Vaccum sensor or circuit problem
23 Fuel thermosensor open or short circuit

Anyone?

Mahjik Oct 8, 2007 09:47 PM

Code:

1 Ignition coil (trailing side)
2 Crank position NE sensor
3 Crank position G sensor
5 Knock sensor
8 Airflow meter (AFM)
9 Water thermosensor
10 Intake air thermosensor (AFM)
11 Intake air thermosensor (engine)
12 Throttle sensor - full range
13 Pressure sensor - intake manifold
14 Atmospheric pressure sensor (built in ECU)
15 oxygen sensor
17 Feedback system for O2 sensor
18 Throttle sensor - narrow range
20 Metering oil pump position sensor
23 Fuel thermosensor
25 Solenoid valve - pressure regulator control
26 metering oil pump stepper motor
27 Metering oil pump
28 Solenoid valve - EGR
29 Solenoid valve - EGR vent
30 Solenoid valve - split air bypass
31 solenoid valve - relief 1
32 Solenoid valve - switching
33 Solenoid valve - port air bypass
34 Solenoid valve -idle speed control (BAC)
37 Metering oil pump
38 Solenoid valve - accelerated warmup system and air supply valve
39 Solenoid valve - relief 2
40 Solenoid valve - purge control (auxilary port valve)
41 Solenoid valve - variable dynamic effect intake (VDI)
42 Solenoid valve - turbo precontrol
43 Solenoid valve - wastegate control
44 Solenoid valve - turbo control
45 Solenoid valve - charge control
46 Solenoid valve - charge relief control
50 Solenoid valve - double throttle control
51 Fuel pump relay
54 Air pump relay
65 Air conditioning signal
71 Injector - front secondary
73 Injector - rear secondary
76 Slip lockup signal
77 Torque reduced signal

9 - Water thermosensor is the upper sensor on the back of the water pump housing.

12 - Throttle sensor is going to be the TPS on the throttle body

13 - Pressure sensor is going to be the MAP/BOOST sensor located on the firewall on the drivers side.

23 - Fuel thermosensor is the sensor on the secondary fuel rail

aznwired Oct 8, 2007 11:19 PM

Thanks Mahjik for the info.

Should I just replace these items? I'm going to try and pull the wiring harness, and test everything this weekend.

But "14 Atmospheric pressure sensor (built in ECU)" how the heck I test that? Should I just bring my ECU to Autozone and have it checked out?

Sorry I'm such a noob to the FD, but this is my first car.


Originally Posted by Mahjik (Post 7400976)
Code:

1 Ignition coil (trailing side)
2 Crank position NE sensor
3 Crank position G sensor
5 Knock sensor
8 Airflow meter (AFM)
9 Water thermosensor
10 Intake air thermosensor (AFM)
11 Intake air thermosensor (engine)
12 Throttle sensor - full range
13 Pressure sensor - intake manifold
14 Atmospheric pressure sensor (built in ECU)
15 oxygen sensor
17 Feedback system for O2 sensor
18 Throttle sensor - narrow range
20 Metering oil pump position sensor
23 Fuel thermosensor
25 Solenoid valve - pressure regulator control
26 metering oil pump stepper motor
27 Metering oil pump
28 Solenoid valve - EGR
29 Solenoid valve - EGR vent
30 Solenoid valve - split air bypass
31 solenoid valve - relief 1
32 Solenoid valve - switching
33 Solenoid valve - port air bypass
34 Solenoid valve -idle speed control (BAC)
37 Metering oil pump
38 Solenoid valve - accelerated warmup system and air supply valve
39 Solenoid valve - relief 2
40 Solenoid valve - purge control (auxilary port valve)
41 Solenoid valve - variable dynamic effect intake (VDI)
42 Solenoid valve - turbo precontrol
43 Solenoid valve - wastegate control
44 Solenoid valve - turbo control
45 Solenoid valve - charge control
46 Solenoid valve - charge relief control
50 Solenoid valve - double throttle control
51 Fuel pump relay
54 Air pump relay
65 Air conditioning signal
71 Injector - front secondary
73 Injector - rear secondary
76 Slip lockup signal
77 Torque reduced signal

9 - Water thermosensor is the upper sensor on the back of the water pump housing.

12 - Throttle sensor is going to be the TPS on the throttle body

13 - Pressure sensor is going to be the MAP/BOOST sensor located on the firewall on the drivers side.

23 - Fuel thermosensor is the sensor on the secondary fuel rail


SINxSELEKTAH Oct 8, 2007 11:32 PM

with my experiences with OBD-I cars, is that engine codes are usually popped up when there's a short or open in the sensor's circuits. i could be wrong, but that's only me speaking through experience :dunno:

Mahjik Oct 9, 2007 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by aznwired (Post 7401286)
Thanks Mahjik for the info.

Should I just replace these items? I'm going to try and pull the wiring harness, and test everything this weekend.

But "14 Atmospheric pressure sensor (built in ECU)" how the heck I test that? Should I just bring my ECU to Autozone and have it checked out?

Sorry I'm such a noob to the FD, but this is my first car.

You aren't getting code 14. Most likely the Snap-On reader doesn't have the proper labels for the codes. You were getting code 9 which is Water Thermosensor. You are also getting Fuel Thermosensor. Those two sensors are identical sensors, just used in two different locations for two different liquids.

What you should do is:

Check the plug to the Water Thermosensor. If its not connected onto the sensor all the way, then you found your problem. If it is, you need to test the connector to see if voltage is getting to the sensor (use a multimeter). If that passes, then you need to test the sensor (procedures are in the FSM). If that passes, then you most likely have a damaged wiring harness.

Just start with the one sensor first because if its a wiring harness problem, there is no sense in testing the others.

aznwired Oct 9, 2007 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by Mahjik (Post 7402102)
You aren't getting code 14. Most likely the Snap-On reader doesn't have the proper labels for the codes. You were getting code 9 which is Water Thermosensor. You are also getting Fuel Thermosensor. Those two sensors are identical sensors, just used in two different locations for two different liquids.

What you should do is:

Check the plug to the Water Thermosensor. If its not connected onto the sensor all the way, then you found your problem. If it is, you need to test the connector to see if voltage is getting to the sensor (use a multimeter). If that passes, then you need to test the sensor (procedures are in the FSM). If that passes, then you most likely have a damaged wiring harness.

Just start with the one sensor first because if its a wiring harness problem, there is no sense in testing the others.

Ahh...thanks very much, will start the testing this weekend, got work and school this week...


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