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ahad 03-28-08 12:23 PM

E-Manage: Anyone used it?
 
eyy man im a lil low on cash so power FC's outta my reach...emanage seemed like something i can afford at this point...jus wanted to knw if anyones used the emanage n how useful it turned out to be....thanks!

skir2222 03-28-08 12:54 PM

Personally I would continue and save then get the PFC when you have the cash. Also should talk to who will be tuning the car and see what they prefer/like to tune.

YOUWSH 03-28-08 09:32 PM

Don't bother with E-Manage. If I can't even find a tuner here in AUS that can tune that thing....good luck finding it elsewhere. Stick with the PFC which is more universal with lots of 'great tuners' out there.

DarkLikePoe 03-28-08 11:55 PM

IIRC, the E-Manage system is a piggyback computer, which means you'll never overcome the limitations of the stock ECU. Save for the PFC!

str8ryd 03-29-08 08:14 AM

OR look in to a Pettit ECU. I had that on my FD when I had a ton of mods with the stock twins. Never an issue and the car felt great. I actually know someone that has one local to me so let me know if you're interested. I'm from Paki too...woohoo :D

ahad 03-29-08 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by str8ryd (Post 8033117)
OR look in to a Pettit ECU. I had that on my FD when I had a ton of mods with the stock twins. Never an issue and the car felt great. I actually know someone that has one local to me so let me know if you're interested. I'm from Paki too...woohoo :D

eyyyyy not a lot o pakis on this forum man...whatre u runnin bro?


everyones tellin me to save up for a power fc but im a really impatient person :hahaha: so i dunno what im gonna do...i got a friend here who's tryin a Knights Sports ECU theres an extra one with em for sale so if his fd works fine on it ill buy the other one off em...only prob i have with these ecus aer that a couple o guys i knw blew their engines are changing their ecus...anyway thanks guys!

str8ryd 03-29-08 10:47 AM

Well, if you don't have any other option other than the Knightsports ECU, I would suggest holding off on upgrading. I haven't heard many things good or bad regarding this computer so I'd personally stay away. Just save up a little and get the PFC. Do it once and do it right!


Re Paki: Yah, we're few and far between. I've basically run everything. I bought my car with a catback and an intake otherwise completely stock from a dealer. Started modifying it with stock twins and original engine. Basically had every bolt on imagineable then decided to go single-turbo. From there I decided to go 3-rotor stock motor/twins. Talked to a few people and convinced myself it's better to hold off running the 3-rotor until it's built. For now, I pulled the 20B out of my car and will be installing a built motor with another single turbo for the time being. In the meantime, I'm building an NA 20B motor and will have that dropped in once winter time rolls around. Oh, and that's ONLY the engine I've talked about until this point. You don't want to get me started on how much exterior, interior, etc. work I've done up to this point. I'm a lil' nuts but I LOVE the FD's and my car in particular :D


I've basically done it all so if you have any questions don't hesitate to ask or PM me. I might be visiting Pakistan soon. Who knows maybe I can meet you and your friends up. I'd love to see some FD's down there. I'll be in Karachi/Lahore mainly though...


Take Care,
Rizwan

ahad 05-07-08 03:09 PM

hey guys i made this topic a while ago but im still unsure abt the greddy emanage...ill jus let it out staright...mods ill have are intake n downpiping...i have a boost controller and i wanna run 1 bar...CAN the emanage allow me to do that? i mean theres a boost cut at around 12-12.5 psi which is really annoying...do i need a fuel cut defender with it? im really confused and i cant seem to find any asnwers for these questions...plz dont ask me to save up for a pfc cuz i cant afford it and only thing in my range at the moment is the emanage...thanks!

ahad 05-08-08 04:36 AM

anybody? :D

dgeesaman 05-08-08 04:54 AM


Originally Posted by ahad (Post 8169225)
hey guys i made this topic a while ago but im still unsure abt the greddy emanage...ill jus let it out staright...mods ill have are intake n downpiping...i have a boost controller and i wanna run 1 bar...CAN the emanage allow me to do that? i mean theres a boost cut at around 12-12.5 psi which is really annoying...do i need a fuel cut defender with it? im really confused and i cant seem to find any asnwers for these questions...plz dont ask me to save up for a pfc cuz i cant afford it and only thing in my range at the moment is the emanage...thanks!

1 bar is over 15psi. You need an upgraded fuel system to do that with any ECU.

Plus, I sort of remember you don't have tuners available to you. So you can either get an ECU that you can attempt to program yourself, or download and install other peoples tunes, or an ECU that a good tuner knows well.

Dave

ahad 05-08-08 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by dgeesaman (Post 8171315)
1 bar is over 15psi. You need an upgraded fuel system to do that with any ECU.

Plus, I sort of remember you don't have tuners available to you. So you can either get an ECU that you can attempt to program yourself, or download and install other peoples tunes, or an ECU that a good tuner knows well.

Dave

eyy...yeah i knw abt that bro but i still need to do something abt the boost cut...thing is once again i cannot order stuff from abroad so i can only get whats available in my country...there is one tuner in the country and he can work the emanage...now i dont knw what the emanage does as in whether it can tackle the boost cut issue or not...we have a dyno and a tuner but hes not willing to touch my car as long as i have a piggyback or a standalone and all i can get is emanage:wallbash: ...cant seem to get any info on HOW the emanage helps and how useful it is for my goals...all i wanna do is beat an evo...and wasnt 1 bar = 14.2psi? thanks!

R-R-Rx7 05-08-08 02:41 PM

as everyone mentioned e-manage is not the way to go. its so limiting.. get a second hand power fc. or get a credit card and buy a power fc hehe

beqa16v 05-08-08 02:51 PM

guys you in australia have JDM FDs right? i have JDM 95 too. does Pettit ECU run on JDM car?

Upgrayedd 05-08-08 02:58 PM

The GReddy e-manage is garbage. I've talked to multiple tuners about the unit and it is just a very poorly designed system that isn't worth the money. Piggyback ecu's on a turbocharged car are not what you want to be using. Get the PowerFC for sure. You'll be glad you did

ahad 05-08-08 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by mazdatim (Post 8172699)
The GReddy e-manage is garbage. I've talked to multiple tuners about the unit and it is just a very poorly designed system that isn't worth the money. Piggyback ecu's on a turbocharged car are not what you want to be using. Get the PowerFC for sure. You'll be glad you did


Originally Posted by R-R-Rx7 (Post 8172646)
as everyone mentioned e-manage is not the way to go. its so limiting.. get a second hand power fc. or get a credit card and buy a power fc hehe


yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar (thats maaaaan!! in my language :P) i cant afford a power fc not a new one or a used one...i can get emanage for around 300dollars and thats my limit!! so jus wanted to knw if i shud go for it or not? i dont plan wanna make a lot o power...just wanna get boost up close to 1bar... thanks for being patient!

dgeesaman 05-08-08 04:13 PM

Getting boost to 1 bar is not safe IMHO with the stock fuel system.

It's also a bad idea, if you're not going to upgrade the radiator and intercooler too, since more boost is more heat.

ahad 05-08-08 04:14 PM

or how abt i rephrase my question...what do i need to run close to 1bar on the twins if the power fc and a chipped ecu are not options i can avail:Wconfused

ahad 05-08-08 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by dgeesaman (Post 8172999)
Getting boost to 1 bar is not safe IMHO with the stock fuel system.

It's also a bad idea, if you're not going to upgrade the radiator and intercooler too, since more boost is more heat.

i think u misunderstood me man :) ...the radiator intercooler fuel pump n all is accounted for its just that the stock ecu does not allow me to go past 12.5-13psi so the reason im asking abt the e-manage is that maybe it can allow me to run higher boost and tune the car on the dyno..

RLaoFD 05-08-08 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by ahad (Post 8173009)
i think u misunderstood me man :) ...the radiator intercooler fuel pump n all is accounted for its just that the stock ecu does not allow me to go past 12.5-13psi so the reason im asking abt the e-manage is that maybe it can allow me to run higher boost and tune the car on the dyno..

what he means by the "fuel" is injectors. your duty cycle will be really close to 100 percent when raising the boost passed 12 psi. the stock fuel injectors are not safe for that kind of air flow.

randy

ahad 05-08-08 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by EfiniR11 (Post 8173025)
what he means by the "fuel" is injectors. your duty cycle will be really close to 100 percent when raising the boost passed 12 psi. the stock fuel injectors are not safe for that kind of air flow.

randy

:icon_tup: gotcha!

dgeesaman 05-08-08 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by ahad (Post 8173009)
i think u misunderstood me man :) ...the radiator intercooler fuel pump n all is accounted for its just that the stock ecu does not allow me to go past 12.5-13psi so the reason im asking abt the e-manage is that maybe it can allow me to run higher boost and tune the car on the dyno..

Ok, but you can understand my confusion because you said "only a dp and an intake". That implies no fuel mods at all.

Dave

ahad 05-09-08 02:39 PM

my bad...sigh man i dont think im ever gonna be able to raise the boost without a power fc:icon_no2:

afterburn27 05-09-08 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by ahad (Post 8176303)
my bad...sigh man i dont think im ever gonna be able to raise the boost without a power fc:icon_no2:

IMO, there are three good easy ECU options for the FD:

1. stock ECU

With the stock ECU you are limited to staying with the stock injectors and 10psi of boost. BTW, if you are regularly hitting fuel cut b/c you are overboosting it is NOT good for the engine. Keep your boost to 10psi or less on the stock ECU.


2. Chipped stock ECU's (by Pettit, rx7.com, M2, etc)

IMO, these ECU's are the best bang for the buck. Like the stock ECU, you are limited to the stock fuel system, but you will be able to raise the boost a few psi (keep it under 14.5psi) and make a bit more power. You can usually add all the bolt-ons you want and maybe even a small street port with these ECU's. They really are simple plug and play. 300-350 whp is easily attainable with a chipped ECU, and they go for around $300 these days. No tuning required!


3. Apexi Power FC

This ECU is about as plug and play as standalones get. You have the power to add all the modifications you want (single turbo, bigger injectors, etc.), but you need to have tuning knowledge or pay a professional to take care of the tuning for you. A datalogit is also necessary for any real tuning.


There are other great standalone ECU options out there (motec, microtech, etc.), but the PFC is unrivaled in terms of support for the FD. I would stay away from the piggyback ECU's like the greddy emanage and the SAFC junk. They just don't work well on our cars.


Since you can't afford a PFC, and you don't want the stock ECU that only leaves one smart option IMO... a chipped ECU such as the pettit limited/unlimited. Is it possible for you to somehow transfer payment to a person in the USA who is selling one of these ECU's? It really seems like the best option for you right now.

ahad 05-09-08 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by afterburn27 (Post 8176367)
IMO, there are three good easy ECU options for the FD:

1. stock ECU

With the stock ECU you are limited to staying with the stock injectors and 10psi of boost. BTW, if you are regularly hitting fuel cut b/c you are overboosting it is NOT good for the engine. Keep your boost to 10psi or less on the stock ECU.


2. Chipped stock ECU's (by Pettit, rx7.com, M2, etc)

IMO, these ECU's are the best bang for the buck. Like the stock ECU, you are limited to the stock fuel system, but you will be able to raise the boost a few psi (keep it under 14.5psi) and make a bit more power. You can usually add all the bolt-ons you want and maybe even a small street port with these ECU's. They really are simple plug and play. 300-350 whp is easily attainable with a chipped ECU, and they go for around $300 these days. No tuning required!


3. Apexi Power FC

This ECU is about as plug and play as standalones get. You have the power to add all the modifications you want (single turbo, bigger injectors, etc.), but you need to have tuning knowledge or pay a professional to take care of the tuning for you. A datalogit is also necessary for any real tuning.


There are other great standalone ECU options out there (motec, microtech, etc.), but the PFC is unrivaled in terms of support for the FD. I would stay away from the piggyback ECU's like the greddy emanage and the SAFC junk. They just don't work well on our cars.


Since you can't afford a PFC, and you don't want the stock ECU that only leaves one smart option IMO... a chipped ECU such as the pettit limited/unlimited. Is it possible for you to somehow transfer payment to a person in the USA who is selling one of these ECU's? It really seems like the best option for you right now.


first of all thanks for the detailed reply...ok now here me out...how abt this for an idea...intake,downpiping,radiator,FMIC,walbro...i get a fuel cut defender and use an FPR for the fuel...run boost around 13-13.5psi...waddaya say?

dgeesaman 05-09-08 03:44 PM

Considering how hard and expensive it is for you to get an engine built and tuned there, I must say it sounds like an awful idea. Sorry.

Dave


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