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nickpapagiorgio 02-24-03 11:28 PM

Door sounds like tin can
 
My problem is that my driver side door when I shut it, has a very hollow, tin canish sound to it and unless you actually slam it shut, it doesn't shut all the way. I was going to investigate this problem when the weather warms up, thought I would try to get some input first. Also, I have had my Rx for about 5 years but before it I had a silver touring model with the same problem only it was the passenger side.
Any help always appreciated,
Kevin

lost_rotary 02-24-03 11:32 PM

both doors on both mine and my brothers fd does the same thing. same on all the fds i've test drove. around 5. i think it's hollowed out to save some weight on the car. but not fully hollowed should have some reinforcement to prevent u from getting badly injured in a side impact accident.

ThirdGenRX7 02-24-03 11:42 PM

i have the same exact problem, but no idea how to fix it or what is wrong

TTurboXfd3s 02-24-03 11:55 PM

OH SNAPS I thought i had the only wack one! haha mine's on my drivers side! and yeah it doesn't shut that well unless you slam it! does your hood sqeak too? haha btw mine's a silver touring model too! =/ maybe some recall we missed?

maxcooper 02-24-03 11:57 PM

To change the tin can noise, you can apply some sound deadening material on the inner side of the door sheet metal. Spyfish did a write-up of installing some sound deadening between the door and door skin to reduce interior noise that should be good for finding materials and figuring out the installation details. But putting the material on the door sheet metal would probably do more to make them shut with a nice thunk.

I suspect that increasing the weight of the door will also make it shut a little better. My driver's side door doesn't always shut all the way, either, and I have to open it again and slam it a bit to get it fully shut.

-Max

ThirdGenRX7 02-25-03 12:08 AM

it's more like the door doesn't fit or something

nickpapagiorgio 02-25-03 12:15 AM

I was going to do the sound deadening thing anyway, but what I cant understand is that my passenger side door sound and shuts fine. So I was wondering if maybe there was an alignment problem or anyway of adjusting the sag.
-Kevin

FastAZFD3S 02-25-03 12:34 AM

My 94 PEP touring FD doesn't sound like a tin can when u shut either door. I have noticed the 93's sound pretty tinny.

blown 02-25-03 12:56 AM

I believe the reason the doors on the FD are hard to close is because there is no vent in the rear of the car like most other cars (usually near the tail lights). If you notice, the sunroof (for those with one) will pop up when you close the door. The air trapped inside is what keeps the door from closing easily. If you have the window wide open, it's a lot easier.
Duchi on this forum informed me on this over some beers :)

Radical Rotary Avantgard 02-25-03 07:56 AM

Yes, I agree that is the air pressure not allowing the door to shut close.
Solution: place some Dynamatt on the door and add a couple of pounds of rocks at the bottom of the door to give it some weight, make sure they are glued together because if not they will rattle as you go over bumps.
This is far better than drilling a hole on the roof to relief the compressed air because if it rains, it will leak and your interior will get wet. :D

nickpapagiorgio 02-25-03 09:46 AM

Thanks for the input but as far as the air pressure, that doesn't really explain why many of us have the problem with only one door.
-Kevin

Mahjik 02-25-03 09:55 AM


Originally posted by nickpapagiorgio
Thanks for the input but as far as the air pressure, that doesn't really explain why many of us have the problem with only one door.
-Kevin

Using the sound dampening material should get rid of that for you. Check this thread:

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...hreadid=136393


Originally posted by RonKMiller
The results so far? On the exact same stretch of road at the same time of day I recorded a 3db reduction at 50 mph by my passenger using a cheap Radio Shack db meter sitting on the dash. The doors close with a more solid "thunk" instead of a metallic hollow sound.
To me, the Bose stereo seems to have more "punch".
The interior does seem a little more hushed, but it's really hard to describe what 3 db's sound like, even though that is a significant reduction.


SPOautos 02-25-03 10:12 AM

There is probably some sound dampening material that was glued to the metal that has come undone one one side. Just do like everyone suggested and reapply some good stuff.

Also I also think the doors not closing all the way is from air pressure cause if the hatch is open or a window is cracked it closes real easy and you can actually feel the air pressure blowing out

STEPHEN

rotary-tt 02-25-03 10:15 AM

I used some Dynamat Extreme on the driver's door and it helped the closing issue. Seems the weight helps. Also sounds like a Mercedes now instead of a tin car. I also found that the door closes better if you turn off the recycle air on the heater system. This allows the air to excape out though the cowl between the hood and the front windshield.

nickpapagiorgio 02-25-03 11:06 AM

Thanks, I'll give that a try.
-Kevin

Shinobi-X 02-25-03 11:09 AM

I had the same "problem" too. It believe it's because the doors are so light. You really do have to slam them good to shut properly. As for the squeeking, that is a common problem with the FD. You either get it from the hood, or the hatch. I simply used some duct tape around the part that latches, and my problem is gone. For now, I'm not too worried about it.



Originally posted by blown
I believe the reason the doors on the FD are hard to close is because there is no vent in the rear of the car like most other cars (usually near the tail lights). If you notice, the sunroof (for those with one) will pop up when you close the door. The air trapped inside is what keeps the door from closing easily. If you have the window wide open, it's a lot easier.
Duchi on this forum informed me on this over some beers :)

That's an interesting observation. Now I have a little bit of extra trivia to tell people about the FD.:)

Toadman 02-25-03 12:27 PM


I was going to do the sound deadening thing anyway, but what I cant understand is that my passenger side door sound and shuts fine.
The passenger door also contains a power door lock actuator that unlocks from the driver's side. It's not as "hollow" as the driver's side.Windows up or down, the FD is always a "slammer". Passengers never get it closed right the first time even with instruction. :)
It's also very tough closing the hatch when both windows are up. Have to use a rag to prevent fingerprints. You rear-wing guys have it easy.;)

PureMdMa 02-25-03 12:37 PM

Yeah this problem was solved between the 93 and 94 years this is why a 94 or 95 wont sound like this. All 93s sound like this.

Laterz

Shinobi-X 02-25-03 12:44 PM


Originally posted by Toadman
You rear-wing guys have it easy.;)
The stock wing has really grown on me...even more reason to love it.:D

adam c 02-25-03 01:16 PM


Originally posted by Radical Rotary Avantgard
Yes, I agree that is the air pressure not allowing the door to shut close.
Solution: place some Dynamatt on the door and add a couple of pounds of rocks at the bottom of the door to give it some weight, make sure they are glued together because if not they will rattle as you go over bumps.
This is far better than drilling a hole on the roof to relief the compressed air because if it rains, it will leak and your interior will get wet. :D

The air pressure issue is a valid one. If a window is open things work fine. I suggest letting your passenger close their door before closing the driver door, or cracking a window.

Don't put rocks in your door. That is one of the worst suggestions I have ever heard.

n2trbl 02-25-03 01:35 PM

This could very well be BS but someone once told me that the doors are hard to shut especially the drivers side for me, because mazda wanted to acheive a vacuum effect inside the car. They wanted to try to get an air tight cabin for higher speed driving and less road noise. I don't know if this is true. Yeah my sunroof pops up when I slam my door too. Both doors also sound like this (93 touring) and my driver side is the one that's difficult to shut. Sounds like a simple thing to fix. It doesn't bother me all that much though.

Radical Rotary Avantgard 02-25-03 02:15 PM

adam c, no sense of humor???
Rocks glued to the door???
A hole in the roof???
Come on!!!
You are playing me now right???
It was a Joke just in case.:D

Garrett 02-25-03 03:02 PM

Wait a second...that rock and hole in the roof was a joke!

Mutha fucka! Well I guess I can unglue the rocks but the hole is going to require extensive repair.;)

adam c 02-25-03 03:08 PM


Originally posted by Radical Rotary Avantgard
adam c, no sense of humor???
Rocks glued to the door???
A hole in the roof???
Come on!!!
You are playing me now right???
It was a Joke just in case.:D

Didn't know it was a joke. You got me!!

I have seen serious suggestions on this forum that are on par with that one, and there are people here that are dumb enough to try it!!

Marshall 02-25-03 05:28 PM

There is an air extractor to vent pressure inside the FD. Its on the back left of the car and has a one way flap.


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