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Wilberforce 08-03-06 03:34 AM

cut off mid drift?
 
does the fd3s have a cut off switch of some discription that cuts the engine if the car gets into a spin?

can go sideways fine but if i spun 360 the engine kept cutting out??

plenty of fuel in

any ideas?

cheers
will

s-thetikz 08-03-06 04:08 AM

stalling out because of loss of revs sounds like your problem, if you're running fine under normal conditions.

AWD-RWD racer 08-03-06 08:40 AM

thats happened to me before. almost like the car powered down. but i think it was b/c i was feathering it. Ive been able to do all out spin with no problems.

Wilberforce 08-03-06 09:49 AM

ahh i was feathering the throttle so what you do differently?

AWD-RWD racer 08-03-06 10:23 AM

i dont know.....like i said, sometimes it kinda boggs down (mid spin), most of the time it just spins like crazy though. i dont have an exact answer for you, i was just letting you know your not the only person that that has happened to.

2HLNBK 08-03-06 08:31 PM

sounds like you's are holding back put your foot to the floor abit more and you wont have dat problem!!!!...

poss 08-03-06 08:47 PM

Do you have at least 1/2 tank of gas, maybe more? If you are turning left and it cuts out, you are probably running into fuel starvation.

Wilberforce 08-04-06 03:25 AM

will fill the tank and try again,

cheers for the replys

Wilberforce 08-04-06 07:04 AM

full tank problem solved!

cheers

the_saint 08-04-06 08:28 AM

I ran into this problem at autocross.

Left hand turns with less than 1/2-2/3 tank lead to fuel starvation :(

dubulup 08-04-06 08:51 AM

Gotta love 95's :cool:

Railgun 08-04-06 09:17 AM

I dunno why someone told me that the 95's weren't good enough. dub, would you be able to confirm that ALL '95 tanks have that issue resolved?

dubulup 08-04-06 10:18 AM

That's a strange thing to say to someone?!?! Not good enough? IMO, the are the best looking ;)

I can only confirm what I've read on here...the 95 tanks have the same P/N as the 96+ tanks; which are the "upgraded" tanks.

dgeesaman 08-04-06 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by Wilberforce
full tank problem solved!

cheers

Yeah, you don't want to starve fuel like this since it can blow your engine.

Dave

Railgun 08-04-06 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by dubulup
That's a strange thing to say to someone?!?! Not good enough? IMO, the are the best looking ;)

Bah....I meant the tanks not being good enough. You know what I meant.

Besides, everyone knows that the '93s are by far the best. :D



Originally Posted by dubulup
I can only confirm what I've read on here...the 95 tanks have the same P/N as the 96+ tanks; which are the "upgraded" tanks.

That's all I needed to know! I'm sure Ray can hook it up. Thanks!

WaLieN 08-04-06 01:37 PM

Post a price for the 95+ tanks if you do get one.

RotaryEvolution 08-04-06 02:18 PM

fuel starvation = pop!

be careful when playing in the street kids.

dgeesaman 08-04-06 02:33 PM

Fuel tank price

poss 08-04-06 05:22 PM

That one is for a protoge...the RX-7 one is $597 :(

Here

dgeesaman 08-04-06 06:13 PM

Oops I went thru that kinda fast.

Railgun 08-08-06 09:06 AM

Malloy's prices...

95 shipped from Japan - $497.63

Modified (?) 93-94 in stock - $547.50

Did Mazda, after the issues were known, change the design after the fact and sell them as a modified part?

Scrub 08-08-06 04:03 PM

I'm working on a product to fix the fuel starvation issue....I'm hoping to have a prototype out by next month :)

Railgun 08-08-06 10:36 PM

If it's a better price than a new tank, I'm all over it.

KeloidJonesJr. 08-08-06 10:55 PM

Are you talking about a fuel cut? Too many detonation?

Scrub 08-08-06 11:58 PM

It may be about the same price or a little more, considering it will be running an additional pump.

schwass 08-09-06 01:17 AM

hey guys, I have just read this post and as far as i can gather you are saying that the 95+ models have a modified tank to stop this prob of fuel starvation on hard left hand turns, am I correct in saying that??

If so then I Have a 99 and have had this problem only on one occasion, swinging a left hand drift come donut lol and it just cut out, stopped, then started sweet and drove off thinking WTF !!! I had between 1/2 and 1/4 of a tank,

Railgun 08-09-06 08:12 AM

It's possible that you were in that situation for a longer period of time.

The 93-94 tanks have crap baffling. This was addressed on the 95+ models. I don't know to what extent, but I know for track driving, many have said it fixes it, unless of course you're on a 1/8 tank, then you should be shot for driving in that condition anyway (pure racing excluded).

I'm not aware of whether there was another redesign after that.

Scrub, I assume you'll start up something else about that? I'd like to know more, especially with what I already have for my setup.

dubulup 08-09-06 08:52 AM

sounds like a surge tank type of thing.

Scrub 08-09-06 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by dubulup
sounds like a surge tank type of thing.

pretty much, but it's not gonna be mounted in the car like other setups.

-Dan

BobfisH 08-10-06 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by Scrub
pretty much, but it's not gonna be mounted in the car like other setups.

-Dan

A remote fuel tank? Neat! Id like to see how that works :jump:

dubulup 08-10-06 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by Scrub
pretty much, but it's not gonna be mounted in the car like other setups.

-Dan

a fuel cooler would be pimp on something like that :evilgrin:

d1rx7 08-10-06 07:52 PM

i need a surge tank, as mine will cut out when doing donuts, i have a 96 rx7, its ok if you have over half a tank, but under that its no good

Scrub 08-10-06 08:12 PM

well, I guess maybe I'll step up my plans....... I don't think a fuel cooler would add much, if any performance. I mean how hot does the fuel get in the tank, under the rear of the car? I could probably incorporate something if there was interest.

dubulup 08-11-06 08:13 AM

Anything that lowers combustion temperatures in a PLUS in my book. The stock ECU took a fuel temp reading so I assume temps can get to the point where you retard timing (or inject more??)


Originally Posted by GT1-20b
As to the Fuel coolers, the closer to the engine the better, at the highest press. possible. Simple as that.

when this man posts, I take it as "the word"

Scrub 08-11-06 05:15 PM

I understand why to use a cooler, but I didn't understand why you'd want it at the back of the car.....like he said, the closer to the engine the better. But I think with your knowlege you could probably install a fuel cooler as easily as I could :)

Railgun 08-11-06 08:09 PM

There's a local guy that has a similar setup I think. In tank pump feeding a swirl tank in the hatch with another pump and -10 lines up. The thing was that you couldn't even touch it it was so hot. Probably not setup the right way and definitely not good to heat the fuel like that.

FlyinFINN 03-31-08 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by Railgun (Post 5973669)
There's a local guy that has a similar setup I think. In tank pump feeding a swirl tank in the hatch with another pump and -10 lines up. The thing was that you couldn't even touch it it was so hot. Probably not setup the right way and definitely not good to heat the fuel like that.

A swirl tank is the best thing to do to eliminate fuel starvation. It's literally impossible to send air through the lines with a swirl pot. I'm having the same issues when I drift due to the baffles in my 93's gas tank. Swirl tank is in the very near future just like on my bmw race car.

Tom93R1 03-31-08 03:15 PM

This was a very old thread to re-open, but since it was already opened there was the group buy on surge tank covers for the stock tank. The piece solves the problem in a very inexpensive and easy to install manner. No need for a swirl tank, I am not even sure what that is


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