coolant burn on start up!!! HELP
hey guys and girls,
just bought my first rx7. everything was ok then started tomissfire and puff white smokeon start up, gave it a few seconds all would clear and everything would be fine, once cleared is fine, no smoke when driving etc etc, butnow when i start it i get massive white smoke plummingout the back, but agin clears outand is fine after ward. deffiently burning water, and its obviously onlygetting into block when engine off. is there a fault that is similar to head gasket on a 4 cylinder engine, or i got a seriuos problem going on?? thanks phil |
u need to rebuild your engine to fix the problem. your coolant seals/o-rings are broken
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lol woopppiiieeee, is it going to be just that, as the car drives fine afterward, guessing the tips etc etc will be ok, worth changing whilst out??
sorry my first rotary :) obvisouly not the best one lol |
i had the same problem when i bought my fd, it got worse and worse and progressively harder to start due to the coolant buildup. theres plenty to change while u rebuild and it can get expensive. there are some good rebuild how-to threads floating around :)
u'll want to confirm that its coolant burning before u do anything though.. good luck |
lol its under warrenty, i got told it might of been appexi seals?? but deff coolant not oil, also the coolant temp gauge is messing around, shows just off the second mark all the time, then jumps to half and puts the buzzer on, itsnot low on coolant as im now topping up due to start fault, guessing a temp sensor fault, or wiring issues??
thanks mate :) |
Originally Posted by fowler
(Post 7579946)
lol its under warrenty, i got told it might of been appexi seals?? but deff coolant not oil, also the coolant temp gauge is messing around, shows just off the second mark all the time, then jumps to half and puts the buzzer on, itsnot low on coolant as im now topping up due to start fault, guessing a temp sensor fault, or wiring issues??
thanks mate :) |
the head gasket equivolent on a rotary is completely internal and requires a rebuild as others have said.
However, condensation on the rotors and in the exhaust causing a little white smoke on startup is perfectly normal, especially if you live in a humid region... |
Originally Posted by fowler
(Post 7579946)
lol its under warrenty, i got told it might of been appexi seals?? but deff coolant not oil, also the coolant temp gauge is messing around, shows just off the second mark all the time, then jumps to half and puts the buzzer on, itsnot low on coolant as im now topping up due to start fault, guessing a temp sensor fault, or wiring issues??
thanks mate :) |
Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
(Post 7579982)
Apexi is a company that makes aftermarket electronics, exhausts etc. The proper term is 'apex seal.'
cheers for your help guys guess its engine out then, not having any power loss etc so prob just the o rings, what milage you guys recomend tip swaps etc |
Originally Posted by SLOASFK
(Post 7579981)
However, condensation on the rotors and in the exhaust causing a little white smoke on startup is perfectly normal, especially if you live in a humid region...
everytime i start up mine, i have to wait about a min and a half till the white smoke clears and goes back to normal. i only drive mine weekend to weekend, so i have a good bit of condensation build up. just make sure thats not your problem before you start tearing stuff apart |
Originally Posted by fowler
(Post 7579946)
lol its under warrenty
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he prob paid about the same amount for dealer pricing, as he would for a rebuild. but i could be wrong
hell, i'd be suprised if they knew how to do rebuilds. correctly that is... |
lol im sure i could manage, bit of research, work for lotus as a tech so...
but dnt wanna be rebuilding a car i just bought lol. yeah they can do the works to it, but like you said need to find someone who knows what theyre on about, in the uk that dnt seem to be many people unless any of you guys know good peeps in uk |
Originally Posted by 4CN A1R
(Post 7584297)
everytime i start up mine, i have to wait about a min and a half till the white smoke clears and goes back to normal. i only drive mine weekend to weekend, so i have a good bit of condensation build up. just make sure thats not your problem before you start tearing stuff apart
Best advice yet. Jesus...there are countless posts about guys that are convinced their "coolant seals are shot" but are actually just seeing condensation...something EVERY car does. The ignorance of some car owners just baffles me. I mean, ALL of these cars with "shot" coolant seals that suddenly run fine once the car is "warmed up"? Give me a break, go back to Car 101 in grade school. :rlaugh: |
lol would agree with you there buddy but im topping up every start up anjd it isnt just a little bit of white, it like someone has thrown a bucket onto a fire lol, and the car misfires like a twat on start up, either way il get it stripped and checked and report back
and i drive mine every day ?? and night lol, so not much chance of condensation on that lvl thanks all :icon_tup: |
Originally Posted by bajaman
(Post 7584802)
Best advice yet.
Jesus...there are countless posts about guys that are convinced their "coolant seals are shot" but are actually just seeing condensation...something EVERY car does. The ignorance of some car owners just baffles me. I mean, ALL of these cars with "shot" coolant seals that suddenly run fine once the car is "warmed up"? Give me a break, go back to Car 101 in grade school. :rlaugh: |
my FD kinda has the same problem where it's huge white smoke at the startup but then it clears. Once i hit 4000 rpms it starts smoking, pretty much when i run it hard it happens. It'll happen randomly also, it'll be fine and then i look in the mirror and it's like driving in a cloud haha. Any ideas on why it's at 4000 rpm that it happens? btw it's not the turbos, just had them replaced with efinis.
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id go with what ever goodfella says, hes been building motors and helping alot in thread.
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