Can Someone Decode this JDM VIN for me?
I do not know what year it is. And if it did come with extra mods from the factory.
Vin is FD3S-420506 Special edition TYP-RS-R Model Spec F137-21R It says RE 30th Anniversary on the RPM meter. Does that mean it a 98 model? |
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This is a rare car. Mazda resumed production in the later half of 1997 with the serial numbers starting 42XXXX. Your car was manufactured on November 25, 1997, as 1998 model. Original paint code was PZ, the car is designated as Type RS-RD. It came as a four seater with 17" wheels, Bilstein Shocks and "hard suspension". As such it is a precursor of the Spirit R.
1998 designated models where the lowest production run of the various model years and so are, likely, more rare. Especially a top of the line model such as this. |
Originally Posted by Redbul
(Post 12198344)
This is a rare car. Mazda resumed production in the later half of 1997 with the serial numbers starting 42XXXX. Your car was manufactured on November 25, 1997, as 1998 model. Original paint code was PZ, the car is designated as Type RS-RD. It came as a four seater with 17" wheels, Bilstein Shocks and "hard suspension". As such it is a precursor of the Spirit R.
1998 designated models where the lowest production run of the various model years and so are, likely, more rare. Especially a top of the line model such as this. |
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Can I just hijack this thread?
I also wondered what year mine is, would be especially helpful when ordering parts. I read somewhere that the 3 after FD3S means its a Type 3 (of 6), so 03/1995–01/1996, is this correct? My VIN: FD3S300810 I will also add a picture of the vehicle information sticker. Its also a JDM car. |
Random Three
Not sure what the 3 means, The 2nd generation is nicknamed FC3S so ?
The JDM VIN start with 1,2,3,4,42,5,6 which correspond to "Versions" of the FD3S, typically denoting some upgrades to the cars. You will also hear of Series of RX7, roughly Series 1~3 are the first generation, Series 4~5, second generation, and Series 6,7 & 8 the third generation. Wikipedia goes into a fair amount of detail. (There is some discussion that Series 8 was a connotation made up by the Australians and not actually used by the company. Series 8 usually covers Versions 5 and 6 and is in common usage. Also referred to as Kouki - "later period") |
Originally Posted by Redbul
(Post 12199911)
Wikipedia goes into a fair amount of detail.
I didn't mean the 3 in FD3S but the 3 after that. This is what wikipedia says (Series 3). But it would be nice to know, when the car was built a little bit more precise. Where did you get the precise info of the car of the thread opener? |
Originally Posted by Namxi
(Post 12199912)
Yes, this is where I got the info with the Series (Not type) 3 from.
I didn't mean the 3 in FD3S but the 3 after that. This is what wikipedia says (Series 3). But it would be nice to know, when the car was built a little bit more precise. Where did you get the precise info of the car of the thread opener? |
I thought carfax is only for the US? The car only ran in Japan, the UK and than Germany.
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Originally Posted by Namxi
(Post 12199888)
Can I just hijack this thread?
I also wondered what year mine is, would be especially helpful when ordering parts. I read somewhere that the 3 after FD3S means its a Type 3 (of 6), so 03/1995–01/1996, is this correct? My VIN: FD3S300810 I will also add a picture of the vehicle information sticker. Its also a JDM car. |
Wow, thanks a lot!
But with that production date it wouldn't be a series 3, would it? Can there be any more infos obtained from the VIN or the other numbers, or just the production date? Where do you guys get that infos? |
Originally Posted by Namxi
(Post 12200660)
Wow, thanks a lot!
But with that production date it wouldn't be a series 3, would it? Can there be any more infos obtained from the VIN or the other numbers, or just the production date? Where do you guys get that infos? https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-gen-gene...sense-1103931/ |
Originally Posted by Namxi
(Post 12200660)
Wow, thanks a lot!
But with that production date it wouldn't be a series 3, would it? Can there be any more infos obtained from the VIN or the other numbers, or just the production date? Where do you guys get that infos? In theory the changeover time was March 1995, but it's possible your car among others was built in advance during a changeover period, or some completely different reasoning all together! Two easy ways to verify if yours is a Version 3; 1) is your rear view mirror double jointed? V3 cars were double jointed; 2) do you have a interior light in the boot? V3 cars had this deleted. |
Originally Posted by XPT
(Post 12200801)
Two easy ways to verify if yours is a Version 3; 1) is your rear view mirror double jointed? V3 cars were double jointed; 2) do you have a interior light in the boot? V3 cars had this deleted.
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As far as I understand it RX-7's (FB+FC+FD)exist in eight series.
Considering the FD only, we are only required to talk about Series numbers 6, 7 and 8. Series 6 is made up of FDs produced from production start (1991/1992) till a point in 1995. Series 7 FDs were produced following this point in 1995 to around the end of 1998 (so prior to the facelift and '99 spec upgrades). Series 8 FDs are then the remainder from the start of 1999 till end of production in 2002. So that is the "series" of FD explained. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Now you are comfortable with that, the RX-7 FD exists in six versions: Versions 1 through to 6. Version 1 is really only the very earliest of cars produced in 1991 and 1992. These cars had the following features: Yellow Fog Lamps Rod end mount front strut bar end Silver gauge bezels Interior plastic parts painted Steel sunroof option Colours: Vintage Red; Silverstone metallic; Brilliant Black; Motego Blue mica; Competition Yellow mica And came in (from what I can find, so not necessarily exhaustive) at least 4 specifications: X, R and S; with the first iteration of the RZ (the RZ 1) starting production in October 1992. The RZ 1 offered the following specs: Brilliant Black Hard shocks Recaro Carbon Seats No back seat That's really all my knowledge of the Version 1 cars, I've never seen one in real life as I don't think the existed in the UK. (potentially not the US either but I have poor knowledge of the US side of things). Next was the Version 2. This forms the majority of UK spec and US spec cars from what I understand. These were manufactured between August 1993 to March 1995. These had some "refinements" over the version 1: Suspension refreshed (Rear softened) Added Rear stiffener bars to rear sub frame Two seater "R II" version White fog lamps Ridged mount front strut bar ends Front strut shaft cover changed shape Rear strut shaft cover changed from rubber to urethane Black gauge bezels Interior plastic parts new unpainted surface Speedo design change Ash tray replaced with arm rest console box Coin holder added Number plate holder changed to moulded type Aircon gas from R12 to R134a Optional 17" BBS wheels Optional sunroof changed to glass Colours: Vintage Red; Silverstone metallic; Brilliant Black; Motego Blue mica; Chaste White I count at least 6 models of Version two car excluding the extra variants that existed here in the UK and elsewhere where they messed about with what they included as standard or optional extras a bit for some reason. With these 6 models being: Touring X Touring S R R II Special editions: RZ 2 (October 1993) Brilliant Black 17" BBS wheels, Bilstien shocks, Full bucket front seats, Two seater Driver's Knee Pad Smallest production run Special Version Most expensive version (even more than a spirit R when new) and R II Bathurst: which was essentially the poor man's version of FD at the time. Cheapest FD ever produced but I'm not 100% on what the skimped on to make it so cheap... After March 1995 came the Version 3 cars which ran to around January 1996. Changes: Rear Wing changed to Dolphin type with two stays Rear view mirror double jointed Boot interior light deleted Optional 17" BBS wheels Optional glass sunroof Colours: Vintage Red; Silverstone metallic; Brilliant Black; Chaste White Here I record at least 5 model variants on top of the previous version models: Touring X - automatic, suede seats. R Bathurst R Bathurst X RZ 3 and the first version of the RS. Version 4 January 1996 to 1999. Changes: Computer changed to 16 bit Manual models gained a bit of power. Hard "Y" Pipe all changed to alloy Round tail lights (like 99 spec ones) Adjustable dash illumination deleted. Changed dash illumination from amber to green Last glass sunroof option Spare wheel changed from aluminium to steel Carpet changed from cut pile to loop pile All interior parts cost reduced (Mazda started cheaping out to reduce the costs) Colours: Vintage Red; Silverstone metallic; Brilliant Black; Chaste White I count 7 models for this: RB (the new base model) RB Bathurst Touring X (auto) RS (top of the line; bigger brake calipers and discs, 4.3 diff ratio, 4 seats, harder suspension) RB Bathurst X RS-R (Bilstein suspensioncame in new yellow colour exclusive to this model; Sunburst Yellow). With the start of Version 5 came the start of Series 8. Version 5 cars were made between January 1999 and September 2000 apparently. This version features the largest and most important changes Mazda made to the FD. Changes: Body 10 mm shorter due to new front bumper Integral number plate holder Bigger bumper mouth for newly design intakes for airbox and intercooler. Better air ducting for intercooler/airbox Lip spoiler with integral canards Combination lamps added (sidelights/indicators) New Rear wing with adjustable attack angle (4 positions) Fog lamps changed 35W to 55W New 17" wheels 6.72kg (lighter) Tyre changed Expedia S07 to Potenza S07 Rear glass tinted Mazda badge changed (gulwing style used still) Engine power up to 280p Muffler changed; 10% less back pressure and quieter Turbos changed; abraidable exhaust wheels Boost up 0.62 > 0.74 bar Bigger Radiator Changed oil metering 25% less power steering force and check valve added Suspension more mild damper changed from 297M to 149M Suspension setup changed ABS program changed Angled brake ducting Brake backing plates changed Wheels centre cap changed (to reflect new mazda badge) Passenger airbag Dash gauges smaller Nardi steering wheel with airbag oil pressure gauge changed to boost gauge Rev gauge, 0rpm now at six o'clock position. Colours: Vintage Red; Highlight silver metallic; Brilliant Black; Chaste White; Innocent Blue mica Models: (at least) RB RB-S Only these models below got the upgraded turbos and supporting systems for 280ps R RS - same extras as old RS model but with bilstein shocks and springs RZ - same as RS but with recaro seats and BBS wheels. Version 6 cars are still classed under the same Series (8), but featured big enough changes to warrant Mazda naming them another Version! Changes: ABS unit changed, 8 bit to 16 bit Electronic Brake Distribution added Clutch interlock added, clutch in required to start engine Silver gauge bezels come back White gauge faces Lower side impact bar added Colours: Vintage Red; Sunlight silver metallic; Brilliant Black; Pure White; Innocent Blue mica Models: Same ones as Version 5 but: An updated RZ (6) R bathurst R And the three Spirit R models: A, B and C (Mazda made 1503 Spirit R's not 1500 as people think :lol:. The rarest car out of all these is actually the Version 6/Series 8 RZ! Anyways, I'm not quite sure why Mazda bothered with this whole Version and Series thing, more confusing than helpful, but I hope some of the above is useful knowledge. |
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Excellent and extensive summary XPT! Very useful.
People may also wish to refer to Brain Long's "RX7 Mazda's Rotary Engine Sports Car" which was recently republished (I believe in the UK). One has to puzzle through the variants, but I suspect it comes out much as described above. It certainly gives more background into the thinking behind the variants. |
The "series 6 / 7/ 8" terminology originated in Australia or NZ I think, and it is really a misnomer.
S6 is 1991 - 1995. S7 is 1996 - 1998, most notable by the rear spoiler, round tail lights, and 16 bit ECU with 265ps. S8 is 1999 - 2002, having the facelift front bumper, adjustable rear wing, and 280ps model options. But there is so much more detail within those years, as noted in a post above. If you look at parts on RHD Japan for example, they use the correct JDM terms. Which correspond directly to the first digit of the JDM VIN.
Originally Posted by RHD Japan
Mazda RX-7 FD3S Type I 13B-REW (12/1991-09/1994)
Mazda RX-7 FD3S Type II 13B-REW (09/1994-03/1995) Mazda RX-7 FD3S Type III 13B-REW (09/1994-01/1996) Mazda RX-7 FD3S Type IV 13B-REW (01/1996-12/1998) Mazda RX-7 FD3S Type V 13B-REW (01/1999-09/2000) Mazda RX-7 FD3S Type VI 13B-REW (10/2000-08/2002) The Efini cars MAZDA EFINI RX7 catalog - reviews, pics, specs and prices | Goo-net Exchange The Mazda cars (Efini was dropped in 1997) MAZDA RX7 catalog - reviews, pics, specs and prices | Goo-net Exchange |
@ XPT: Wow, just... wow!
Thank you very much! @ PeloNZ: The Efini chart from Goo-net states that the last Type-R (II) was sold in 8/1993. But mine is a Series 3 (starting 3/1995) but the vehicle information sticker in the doorsill (See photo above) says its a Type-R.. So there is quite a big gap in time.. Can anyone say, what the differences where with the Type-R of this time? |
Type R
I just took a quick look at Brian Long's write up regarding the Type R in the period around when your car was made. Unfortunately, the description is vague. I note that your car is in fact a Type R "Special Edition". Which adds more confusion. Brian Long speaks of a special edition Type R being a Type RZ. Take a close look at your C pillars. Is there any remnant of an RZ sticker?
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300800 Bathurst
300801 TRG-S (Touring S/Automatic) 300802 Type-R 300803 Bathurst 300808 Type-R 300809 Type-R2 300810 Type-R 300811 Type-R2 Type R had four seats and hard suspension; Type R2 had two seats and "normal control". Brian Long, on page 155 of his book confirms Type R2 was a two seat version of the Type R. He also mentions that a limited edition of Type R was introduced on October 1, 1994. Such car had 17 inch wheels. Given your car's manufacture date, it could be that Special Edition refers to this limited edition with 17 inch rims. |
No, there is nothing on the c-pillars.
Thanks a lot for the confirmation that its a Type-R! You guys are just great! :nod: |
What info can you guys get me on JMZFD13B200200019 ?
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By converting it to a JDM vin: FD3S-200019
It seems like a Version 2 Type RII; Paint Code NU? I think that's Vintage Red? Produced on the 22nd of July 1993 Does that seem correct? I'm not sure if taking the last 6 digits of a US market VIN is the right way about this. If it's an RII it should have no rear seats |
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Originally Posted by XPT
(Post 12203458)
By converting it to a JDM vin: FD3S-200019
It seems like a Version 2 Type RII; Paint Code NU? I think that's Vintage Red? Produced on the 22nd of July 1993 Does that seem correct? I'm not sure if taking the last 6 digits of a US market VIN is the right way about this. If it's an RII it should have no rear seats I understand that USDM/CanadaDM, and likely the European models, ran separate VIN and so you can not reference the JDM Vin for these cars. I do not know if there is searchable USDM, or other, data base. My understanding is that Canada versions where likely assigned sequential numbers within USDM production with only the designation 1 for US and 2 for Canada being the difference. I have not seen definitive proof of this though. I note the last six digits are referred to as production serial numbers. I note that JDM production seemed to closely follow the sequence of the VIN. Likely indicating the VIN was assigned to the chassis early in the production process. |
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