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katit 06-21-08 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by moconnor (Post 8305812)
I cannot find anything about recharging the compressor oil. Presumably taking the system into a vacuum will remove all the old oil? Is there a service port on the compressor?


Oil not going anywhere when you take freon out. It's just gas, but oil stays there.

silentblu 06-21-08 11:25 PM

would anyone know where would be a good place to buy the AC lines? i'm sure there are aftermarket stores that sell aftermarket lines. or are stock lines the best/only ones that can be used

moconnor 06-21-08 11:42 PM

You can buy entire AC systems in the classifieds for $100. I think that would be your best bet. Use new o-rings, obviously.

JM1FD 06-22-08 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by Rx7aholic (Post 8306056)
Hey I believe you are right about the pressure in the system, after checking everything, compressor work fine if jump, pressure switch was replace same thing, and thermoswtich seems to work fine. However according to the manual if the pressure in the system inaccurate, the pressure switch will shut the cut power to the compressor which make sense. What I don't get is when I de pressure the system I still can't charge it?
Khris

What are your high and low side pressures at idle and at 1500 RPM? Also let me know what the ambient temperature is when you take these readings.

JM1FD 06-22-08 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by katit (Post 8306111)
Oil not going anywhere when you take freon out. It's just gas, but oil stays there.

Since the refrigerant carries the oil around the system, a small amount of oil will be lost when you remove the refrigerant....if you have a catastrophic failure....say the high pressure hose blows loose while the system is running, then you'll lose enough oil to need to worry about putting some back in.

When I service a system I usually put in 1/2 oz or so if I'm not replacing any major components where oil would reside (evaporator, condenser, compressor, drier).

katit 06-22-08 10:36 AM

Agree, when line burst - lot's of it lost (1-2oz) After discharge - 1/2 oz would be enough to add

Rx7aholic 06-30-08 09:47 PM

Guys is there another souce for a.c lines? I am planning to replace everything on mine too, I just notice that my too is shot I took it a part then I decide to shake it and I hear small stuff inside making noise? So I decide to cut it half to see what the hell is the noise. To my surprise the freon turn into small round beads size ball? What can cause the freon in the dryer to becomes small round bead ball?
Khris

moconnor 06-30-08 10:46 PM


Originally Posted by Rx7aholic (Post 8334336)
Guys is there another souce for a.c lines?

You can buy entire AC systems in the classifieds for $100 or so. I can't imagine there is an aftermarket for AC lines for an FD.

JM1FD 07-01-08 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by Rx7aholic (Post 8334336)
To my surprise the freon turn into small round beads size ball? What can cause the freon in the dryer to becomes small round bead ball?

Nothing to cause freon become small bead round ball. Sound like you about talk desiccant in drier. Desiccant make of small round like-sand particles.

Rx7aholic 07-01-08 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by moconnor (Post 8334548)
You can buy entire AC systems in the classifieds for $100 or so. I can't imagine there is an aftermarket for AC lines for an FD.

Yeah I look and can't find it also I need the nippon denso system.
thanks
Khris

tzbfwt 07-02-08 03:58 PM

R-12 Mineral Oil
 
Dale - you score points again - I was able to find R-12 mineral oil at a NAPA about 10 miles away. Cost me a whole $8.50 for a quart too. They don't have it on display, you have to ask for it - and the bottle is kinda dusty - don't they know we need this stuff for our cars when we convert them to Hydrocarbon based refrigerants???

Actually - will any of the commonly available PAG or Esters work in a RX7 with the HC-based gases??? (I will assume that we are smart enough to flush out all of the old oil first). I'm going with the mineral oil because I don't want to change out all my o-rings - but it seems the oil ring replacement kits are freely available now.

Jim

JM1FD 07-02-08 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by tzbfwt (Post 8340110)
Actually - will any of the commonly available PAG or Esters work in a RX7 with the HC-based gases??? (I will assume that we are smart enough to flush out all of the old oil first). I'm going with the mineral oil because I don't want to change out all my o-rings - but it seems the oil ring replacement kits are freely available now.

HC refrigerants are said to be compatible with mineral, PAG or Ester oils.

JM1FD 01-23-09 03:55 PM

I realize this is an old thread, but I found some VERY useful info about MANA driers. A company called Ready-Aire still makes the drier for the MANA system. It is Ready-Aire part number 4016 and can currently be bought at partsamerica.com for $57.99

moconnor 04-18-09 11:18 AM

Edit: Wrong thread. I was trying to post this information in another thread.

moconnor 04-18-09 12:38 PM

Also found even cheaper driers here:

http://www.discountacparts.com/addto...~60-30557.asp#

JM1FD 04-22-09 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by moconnor (Post 9138393)

Those are both Nippondenso system driers which can be had for $10 from:

https://www.ackits.com/pc/37-13316/M...+-+Accumulator

GreatShamanGT 04-22-09 04:21 PM

Compressor - http://www.caawparts.com/index.asp?P...APAAID=1192485

Condensor -

Receiver/Drier - http://www.ackits.com/merchant.mvc?S...Mazda93RX7_1-3

Evaporator -

Expansion valve - http://www.ackits.com/merchant.mvc?S...Mazda90RX7_1-3

AC lines -

O-rings - http://www.ackits.com/merchant.mvc?S...Mazda93RX7_1-3



That's what I've gathered from this thread. Can anyone fill in the rest of the blanks?

JM1FD 04-22-09 05:30 PM

CompressorCondensor

Nippondenso Receiver/DrierMANA Receiver/Drier
Evaporator

MANA Expansion ValveNippondenso Expansion Valve AC lines

O-rings
http://www.ackits.com/merchant.mvc?S...Mazda93RX7_1-3

(Although I would suggest you get 'em from Mazda)

jkevin50 03-15-12 06:19 PM

I hate bringing this back from the dead, but I just got a 94 with the Mana system and cant find the drier for it. If anyone has a source I would be greatly appreciate the help. Thanks in advance!

got_hp 03-15-12 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by jkevin50 (Post 11018493)
I hate bringing this back from the dead, but I just got a 94 with the Mana system and cant find the drier for it. If anyone has a source I would be greatly appreciate the help. Thanks in advance!

after ordering 4 different driers from different sources and none of them fitting my lines properly, my shop and i just decided to re-work the lines to fit the available driers. that way next time its easier to replace.

JM1FD 03-16-12 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by got_hp (Post 11018550)
after ordering 4 different driers from different sources and none of them fitting my lines properly, my shop and i just decided to re-work the lines to fit the available driers. that way next time its easier to replace.

That's exactly what I'm planning on doing as well. What drier did you end up using?

jkevin50 03-16-12 02:19 PM

sounds like a good idea. Damn mana!

Speed of light 03-16-12 04:05 PM

Addition to the sourcing list:

Compressor shaft seal for the TV-14C: (carbon face type, as used on the FD)

http://www.polarbearinc.com/Webstore...product_ID=385

JM1FD 03-17-12 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by Speed of light (Post 11019541)
Addition to the sourcing list:

Compressor shaft seal for the TV-14C: (carbon face type, as used on the FD)

http://www.polarbearinc.com/Webstore...product_ID=385

If anyone does attempt to replace their shaft seal, don't touch the carbon! I'm told that if you touch the carbon with your fingers it won't seal properly.

got_hp 03-17-12 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by JM1FD (Post 11019118)
That's exactly what I'm planning on doing as well. What drier did you end up using?

whichever one the autoparts stores all carried, the more common one. not sure if thats the mana or nippon.


also FYI for people... we ordered 5 a/c expansion valves in a ROW and they kept sending us this one:

http://unicoship.com/panafrio/mercan/2013119w.jpg


instead of the correct one i needed which was this one:

http://www.qccompressor.com/10435027.gif


finally got the right one from malloy mazda, but they said its getting harder to find these, so if you need one, better order it soon.


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