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rousu 03-20-17 09:26 PM

3rd gen coolant temp gauge inop
 
Everything else seems to be working on the panel, except the odometer died several months back.

Any prime culprits or hints on checking the temp gauge wiring?

93 stock

cr-rex 03-20-17 10:08 PM

The easiest thing to start with is looking at the single wire temp sensor under the oil pressure sender. That's the one for that sends signal to the cluster.

Gen2n3 03-22-17 01:39 PM

Take a look at the Body Electrical troubleshooting guide, pg C1-16 to test the water temp gauge in the instrument cluster.

While the instrument cluster is out of the car, take a look at your speedometer board for your dead odometer.

See these two links to help with the blank odometer:
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...ometer-599220/
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...nents-1112010/

Cheers,
George

TomU 03-22-17 02:44 PM

I guess it's good to fix something that's broke, but when it's working, it's does not accurately record temperatures. If it was me, I'd install an aftermarket temp gauge and not worry about fixing it.

Gen2n3 03-23-17 04:36 PM

Rousu,

Double check your 93 Body Electrical Manual for any revisions. According to my revised manual there are some test procedures that cover "Coolant Level warning light does not go out when engine is started". This may apply to your situation although your gauge is dead. It is on Pg C2-22 in my 94 Body Electrical Manual Revision.

Cheers,
George

rousu 04-19-17 04:41 PM

Control Unit
 
Tracing the electrical system led the mechanic to a probable culprit: The "control unit"

The part in the car is a Naldec item that is labeled Control Unit N3Z1 18 701

Local Mazda parts says that is not in their catalogue and does not list it as anything that was put in the car by Mazda.


(If relevant, the car is automatic transmission) [ I know, but that is what it is. My previous FD3 was manual.]

The closest that Mazda had was a Mitsubishi part with the number N3A1 18 701 (note the A instead of the Z)

So:
1. anybody know if they have interchangable functions, other than their mounting bracket?
2. anybody know of a source of the Naldec N3Z1 18 701 ? parts dealer or salvage
3. Any better ideas?

thanks

rousu 04-19-17 04:48 PM

TomU --- I would have to verify in more detail, but with two early recalls and a redesign on the coolant system and fans, due to over heating and resultant gas leaks and engine fires, I would be a bit leery and want to make sure the ignition-off cool-down cycle was functional. It seems that hi-temp shutdown temps were deteriorating the fuel lines. Though I could try the hammer fix...

Gen2n3 04-19-17 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by rousu (Post 12175888)
Tracing the electrical system led the mechanic to a probable culprit: The "control unit"

The part in the car is a Naldec item that is labeled Control Unit N3Z1 18 701

Local Mazda parts says that is not in their catalogue and does not list it as anything that was put in the car by Mazda.


(If relevant, the car is automatic transmission) [ I know, but that is what it is. My previous FD3 was manual.]

The closest that Mazda had was a Mitsubishi part with the number N3A1 18 701 (note the A instead of the Z)

So:
1. anybody know if they have interchangable functions, other than their mounting bracket?
2. anybody know of a source of the Naldec N3Z1 18 701 ? parts dealer or salvage
3. Any better ideas?

thanks


I have no idea what this Naldec item is. What control unit are you referring to? I don't think it would be CPU#2 (located by the fuse box). Where is it on your schematic?

TomU 04-19-17 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by rousu (Post 12175892)
TomU --- I would have to verify in more detail, but with two early recalls and a redesign on the coolant system and fans, due to over heating and resultant gas leaks and engine fires, I would be a bit leery and want to make sure the ignition-off cool-down cycle was functional. It seems that hi-temp shutdown temps were deteriorating the fuel lines. Though I could try the hammer fix...

The engine temp gauge is separate from the fan control system. My rec is to wire an aftermarket gauge. They are a lot more accurate than the factory gauge. You can "linearize" the factory gauge, but that's too much effort IMO.

Sgtblue 04-21-17 03:00 PM

If the factory temp gauge is completely off-line then the low-level alarm would probably be too. That might be worth saving.

DaveW 04-21-17 03:15 PM

Temp gauge linearization
 

Originally Posted by TomU (Post 12175954)
The engine temp gauge is separate from the fan control system. My rec is to wire an aftermarket gauge. They are a lot more accurate than the factory gauge. You can "linearize" the factory gauge, but that's too much effort IMO.

I did the linearization back in 2005 or so. Except for the PITA of pulling the cluster, it was reasonably simple.


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