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Mdessouki 05-24-16 03:18 PM

Sell as a roller or return to stock?
 
So I scrapped my 20B plans for a while. Given how ripe the FD marked is I'm thinking of unloading my SSM 93 touring with 36K miles. Which option do you think would net the highest return? I'm not too concerned about having money tied up for a few months.

1- Sell as a roller
2- Sell completed with a newly rebuilt streeport, but otherwise stock with used parts from the classifieds
3- Sell with a brand new engine, but otherwise stock with used parts from the classifieds
4- sell with a brand new engine, turbos, wiring harness, and rebuilt tranny (just as a piece of mind)

I'm thinking 3, 4 or some combination of the two will net the highest return. Let me know what you think...

ZoomZoom 05-24-16 03:24 PM

Usually these cars are worth more as parts. Depends what you need to get out of it and we can gauge better what you should do. If it wasn't a low mile car then parting it is always going to bring the most money. How confident are you in the condition of the chassis? Is it minty like a 36k mile chassis would assume or has it sat out?

Mdessouki 05-24-16 03:38 PM

It's been garaged and is in very good condition.

Fritz Flynn 05-24-16 04:14 PM

I assume it's complete or just needs a long block or complete engine?

Will the AC need to be recharged?

Is the trans original and good

Any mods or is it bone stock blah blah

Condition of interior; anything broken, missing, cracked up, scratched up......

If it's truly mint and you have EVERYTHING that's original other than the engine I'd return to 100 percent stock with a very good engine and sell for 25k plus :egrin:

TomU 05-24-16 04:21 PM

Something to think about.

If you have all/most of the parts and want to part it, it's a PITA and you may not be able to sell everything.

If you don't have all/most of the parts and want to put it back together, it's a PITA and expensive to put back together.

Also, if I were in the market for a 36k mile example, I want it to reflect that's a 36k example, i.e. everything works, all the rubber has been replaced (water and vacuum), brakes/shocks are good, fuel filter new, HVAC/radio works, all the parts are there (and reflect 36k of use), interior is in good shape, etc. I also don't want it modified, to include porting.

DaleClark 05-24-16 05:02 PM

I would hate to be it sold as a roller then turn into some project that never gets done and rusts away somewhere. We're losing too many FD's these days, we need to keep them ALL on the road.

That said, I would love to see it made into a nice, well sorted, near stock car. But, that is a decent amount of time and money, don't know how much you have of either. That would definitely give the biggest return on investment, especially if the build was documented and everything was done right.

If time and money is an issue, I would find a good home - someone who will put it all back together to enjoy, or someone who will get it back together to sell to a good home.

Dale

Mdessouki 05-24-16 06:12 PM

I assume it's complete or just needs a long block or complete engine?
- Needs a short block, turbos, and wiring harness. I would have never sold these except I was promised a 20B could be build in a few months...

Will the AC need to be recharged?
- Yes- I still have all the parts

Is the trans original and good
- Yes, but since its out I'll probably replace the 5th gear syncro

Any mods or is it bone stock blah blah
- Stance coilovers, rear seats, FM/10s, racing beat exhaust. I have the stock shock & springs, but do not have the oem wheels, bins, or exhaust

Condition of interior; anything broken, missing, cracked up, scratched up......
- Nothing broke, I'll have the 93 interior panels professionally refinished since this is the biggest con of 93 interiors...

If it's truly mint and you have EVERYTHING that's original other than the engine I'd return to 100 percent stock with a very good engine and sell for 25k plus :egrin:
-I think that is reasonable assuming I use low milage turbos vs new. Ray @ Malloy going to start selling new engines w/o a core fee next month so that has me ready to get the ball rolling... Maybe I'll rejoin Mazdacomp...

ZoomZoom 05-24-16 08:21 PM

Are you planning to do the work yourself? If you sold it as a roller what would you need for it as far as $$?

FourtyOunce 05-24-16 08:44 PM

Uh oh. Someone might be getting the "must have multiple FDs" bug.

ZoomZoom 05-24-16 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by FourtyOunce (Post 12067558)
Uh oh. Someone might be getting the "must have multiple FDs" bug.

You should see me salivating over that stripped CW chassis with no sunroof in the FS section lol.

MattGold 05-25-16 09:24 AM

36K on a clean body?

Get that back to OEMish - as clean as possible. Take your time. It'll only go up in value every year it isn't "done".

Mdessouki 06-03-16 01:33 PM

So I just bought a low mileage core w/ good compression verified by Angel Motorsports. I have a new decisions to make:
1- Sell the shortblock and buy a new core from Mazda for $4.3K, keeping the turbos, wiring harness and a few other bits I needed
2- Have Angel Motorsports rebuild the existing core for $1.5K

Assuming I can sell the shortblock for $1.3K, it would cost $1.5K for a NEW engine vs a rebuild. What are everyone thoughts?

I've never worked w/ Angel Motorsports, I've read good things. I'm still a guarded given my 20B fiasco and think a new motor would cause me the least amount of worry....

Fritz Flynn 06-04-16 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by Mdessouki (Post 12071258)
So I just bought a low mileage core w/ good compression verified by Angel Motorsports. I have a new decisions to make:
1- Sell the shortblock and buy a new core from Mazda for $4.3K, keeping the turbos, wiring harness and a few other bits I needed
2- Have Angel Motorsports rebuild the existing core for $1.5K

Assuming I can sell the shortblock for $1.3K, it would cost $1.5K for a NEW engine vs a rebuild. What are everyone thoughts?

I've never worked w/ Angel Motorsports, I've read good things. I'm still a guarded given my 20B fiasco and think a new motor would cause me the least amount of worry....

Keep it simple. Use only the best from the core and then buy a new mazda engine :icon_tup:

Once you have this ready to sell let me know and I may buy it LOL

Mdessouki 06-07-16 10:21 AM

Looks like the person that was going to sell me the longblock decided he didn't want to give it up... Another build thread isn't in my immediate future.

Mdessouki 06-07-16 10:23 AM

Looks like the person that was going to sell me the longblock decided he didn't want to give it up... Looks like a another build thread isn't in my immediate future.

TomU 06-07-16 10:57 AM

IRP can source brand new short blocks.

Mdessouki 06-08-16 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by TomU (Post 12072718)
IRP can source brand new short blocks.

I wont post prices, but MazdaComp is the way to go...


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