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GDSpeed 08-28-18 11:28 AM

Jalopnik Article: A 1993 Mazda RX-7 Was The Most Intense Bone Stock Car I've Driven
 
https://jalopnik.com/a-1993-mazda-rx...r-i-1828473546

Fun read of a writer's run in Mazda Canada's CYM car - nice pics too. A solid article to share if anyone ever asks what the "it" factor is for the FD. Enjoy!

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...416a315019.jpg

Manny_Apex 08-28-18 01:10 PM

This is great!!

nopistons1994 08-28-18 01:12 PM

Quite possibly the only base model cym in North America?

ZE Power MX6 08-28-18 01:39 PM

That temp gauge tho, woop woop :eek:

arghx 08-28-18 01:41 PM

This is a pre production model. did they have CYM's in normal Canada production market cars?

Also, when I read it, it sounds like the pillowball bushings are shot.

Gen2n3 08-28-18 01:41 PM

Good article, thanks for posting! Although it was mentioned in the article, did you notice the instrument cluster...specifically the Water Temp?

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...36980c903d.jpg
Getting high on the pucker factor here!

This car needs air flow, stat!

nopistons1994 08-28-18 01:53 PM

Oh my lawd I didn't even notice that. Motors already spent :(, Mazda if your on the forum I'll buy it off you .. Great price..

HiWire 08-28-18 05:25 PM

That '93 CYM really gets around... Happy Birthday, Mazda Canada!


Narfle 08-28-18 09:30 PM

Isn't one of the build threads here a CYM base model?

Edit: Pretty sure it's Zoom-Zoom

https://www.rx7club.com/build-thread.../

Gen2n3 08-28-18 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by HiWire (Post 12297320)
That '93 CYM really gets around... Happy Birthday, Mazda Canada!

https://youtu.be/uLaPPrXzpO0

Thanks for posting! This popped up in my YT feed and mirrored the written article. Did anyone catch the water temp gauge in the video?

nopistons1994 08-28-18 09:51 PM

Yep it appears so, cym was available in base in CA.

alexdimen 08-29-18 09:24 AM

I would bet that they have the high temp fan switch on there. It's also possible that the temp gauge isn't "weighted" towards the middle/cold side like we received in the production version supplied in the US.

djseven 08-29-18 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by HiWire (Post 12297320)
That '93 CYM really gets around... Happy Birthday, Mazda Canada!

https://youtu.be/uLaPPrXzpO0


As soon as I hear someone say spinning doritos I stop watching.

MK3Brent 08-29-18 11:24 AM


With the five-speed manual gearbox (a four-speed automatic was available if you were drunk),
:lol: :lol:

nopistons1994 08-29-18 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by djseven (Post 12297429)
As soon as I hear someone say spinning doritos I stop watching.


What if I was to tell you that my license plate was DORITOZ, would you stop hate me?

djseven 08-29-18 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by nopistons1994 (Post 12297472)
What if I was to tell you that my license plate was DORITOZ, would you stop hate me?

Haha, thats yours choice to ride around with and doesn't affect me. I believe when people say spinning doritos it does make them sound like an uneducated kid. I guess I'm just old and grumpy at 35.

I went back and watched the video after your response and of course the "spinning doritos" comment guy spews complete garbage about the factory turbos being different sizes and how laggy they are.

Brody8877 08-29-18 02:35 PM

I know someone in the Bay that have a Canadian Base CYM. >.>

arghx 08-29-18 02:40 PM

He's wrong about them being different sizes, but they were different sizes on the 20B Cosmo. So Mazda did conceive of a system with two different sized turbos, they just didn't put it on the FD. As for how laggy they are... well they aren't that laggy for a 90s car I guess. Drive anything recent (think BMW twin turbo straight 6's of the past 10 years) and it has a noticeable delay for the turbos to get up to speed. Now that's part of the fun in a way, but even with sequential turbos it definitely doesn't measure up in response to modern cars.

Narfle 08-29-18 03:29 PM

Turbo lag just feels right. The twins aren't that bad. Put a big single on and it feels like an 80's porsche. Just enough time to second guess your right foot, before the front and rear end change places.

djseven 08-29-18 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by arghx (Post 12297487)
He's wrong about them being different sizes, but they were different sizes on the 20B Cosmo. So Mazda did conceive of a system with two different sized turbos, they just didn't put it on the FD. As for how laggy they are... well they aren't that laggy for a 90s car I guess. Drive anything recent (think BMW twin turbo straight 6's of the past 10 years) and it has a noticeable delay for the turbos to get up to speed. Now that's part of the fun in a way, but even with sequential turbos it definitely doesn't measure up in response to modern cars.


My Sequential FD lunges forward with the slightest of throttle at any rpm. If they want to compare it to modern day larger displacement engines they should have been more clear. The FD sequential setup is as or more responsive than any of the 90s era Japanese sports cars and a large part of the reason it was so dominant in Autox and competitive against higher HP cars in most performance categories along with its light weight. Saying the car is laggy over half of its rpm range is a disservice to what Mazda accomplished when the sequential setup is working correctly.

djseven 08-29-18 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by Narfle (Post 12297495)
Turbo lag just feels right. The twins aren't that bad. Put a big single on and it feels like an 80's porsche. Just enough time to second guess your right foot, before the front and rear end change places.

In my opinion nothing is worse than that lag. Its why Turblown cant produce EFR kits fast enough.

wankle1 09-05-18 01:57 AM

That video was painful to watch.

mdp 09-05-18 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by Gen2n3 (Post 12297255)
Good article, thanks for posting! Although it was mentioned in the article, did you notice the instrument cluster...specifically the Water Temp?

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...36980c903d.jpg
Getting high on the pucker factor here!

This car needs air flow, stat!



Well, maybe not, keep in mind that Mazda produced two temperature gauges, a cold region gauge and a warm region gauge.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...64256ccec9.jpg

All Canadian cars came with a cold region gauge. What looks like a high temperature on this cold region gauge is in reality close to a normal indication on our warm region temperature gauge. The mid point on a normal gauge is 97.65 ohms on a cold region gauge it is 130.55 ohms.

Gen2n3 09-05-18 12:00 PM

mdp,

Thank you for pointing that out! I never noticed the cold area measurements on the temp gauge. That is interesting! What defines a cold area according to Mazda?

I have not seen anything in the FSM, Section E or BEM (Body Electrical Troubleshooting Manual), Section C1 about it. That excludes the diagram you graciously posted from Pg C1-10, Flowchart #5 and/or Pg C1-16. Additionally, the parts microfiche did not list a separate part number for the water temp gauge. I also searched for "cold area water temp" on the forum and did not see anything that directly addressed a different gauge. Maybe that is a topic for another thread?

MK3Brent 09-05-18 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by wankle1 (Post 12298821)
That video was painful to watch.

Yeah, just saw that... Cringey when people try to sound entertaining while spouting a bunch of things they have no clue about.


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