FD Pricing Database
01-31-18, 04:16 PM
#33
Molotovman and I may want to get together and plot some of the data on a graph. We can show sales by year on one axis and price on the other.
Nick
02-01-18, 02:16 PM
#34
Add it in there dude! I think the more data the better. If we have tons of historical sales data that only serves to help us see the trends as they began. Nothing wrong with that!
Molotovman and I may want to get together and plot some of the data on a graph. We can show sales by year on one axis and price on the other.
Nick
Also, has anyone considered making this thread a sticky? If it goes into the graveyard, eventually users will stop contributing and it will become useless.
02-01-18, 08:24 PM
#36
I concur; gathering multiple data points over the years will help establish a market trend and provide the most useful tool to owners. Is there a way to export the data into Excel? That would allow the moderator to generate information in various ways to best display true market values over time. Furthermore, the spreadsheet could easily be plugged into other programs such as StatCrunch for additional analysis.
Also, has anyone considered making this thread a sticky? If it goes into the graveyard, eventually users will stop contributing and it will become useless.
Also, has anyone considered making this thread a sticky? If it goes into the graveyard, eventually users will stop contributing and it will become useless.
Nick
02-03-18, 03:37 PM
#37
Velocity Mazda in Tyler, TX has a 1993 FD for sale with just under 30k original miles, completely stock base RX7 (didn't link, since I didn't know if that was allowed). They're asking $52,995 for it!! 6 months ago, when I was looking for one to buy, this exact car for sale from the exact same dealer was listed at $34,649. That is an interesting price increase for only 6 months of sitting in the sun...
A side note... they incorrectly have it listed an automatic (which certainly isn't helping with the sale). It is clearly a manual from the pictures and they confirmed that with an inquiry.
Seems to me they're gaining some traction in value.
A side note... they incorrectly have it listed an automatic (which certainly isn't helping with the sale). It is clearly a manual from the pictures and they confirmed that with an inquiry.
Seems to me they're gaining some traction in value.
02-04-18, 09:11 AM
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Velocity Mazda in Tyler, TX has a 1993 FD for sale with just under 30k original miles, completely stock base RX7 (didn't link, since I didn't know if that was allowed). They're asking $52,995 for it!! 6 months ago, when I was looking for one to buy, this exact car for sale from the exact same dealer was listed at $34,649. That is an interesting price increase for only 6 months of sitting in the sun...
A side note... they incorrectly have it listed an automatic (which certainly isn't helping with the sale). It is clearly a manual from the pictures and they confirmed that with an inquiry.
Seems to me they're gaining some traction in value.
A side note... they incorrectly have it listed an automatic (which certainly isn't helping with the sale). It is clearly a manual from the pictures and they confirmed that with an inquiry.
Seems to me they're gaining some traction in value.
Another member posted this earlier in this thread but here it is again because it's a good read that explains what could be happening currently in the FD market: https://www.ferraris-online.com/page...=FZA_201702_MU
Again what we have going on in the FD world are sellers hoping to take advantage of what they believe is a rapidly rising value on a collector car. Many of these sellers (at this point we can call them dreamers) probably never had an FD on their lot prior to the last couple of years LOL. For all we know the market has already turned the opposite direction or is going back down. In order to understand the market you ACTUALLY have to sell cars not just buy them. So if a dealer paid 20 to 25k for the example you mentioned (just a guess) and it doesn't sell for 34 it's priced too high, not too low. Just because the other 10 dealers have FDs listed at 45 to 60k doesn't mean the cars are worth that or at least one or two would have sold because at least a few should be nice examples and there are still people looking for nice examples (I'm always looking as are about 10 other people I know).......blah blah blah. That said at this time I'd say most of the enthusiasts or collectors that appreciate the car probably already own the FD of their dreams so the market/garages set aside for higher priced FDs are filled or the referenced car would have been long gone at the 34k price in 2017. As always it's about supply and demand.
Last edited by Fritz Flynn; 02-04-18 at 09:17 AM.
02-06-18, 08:32 AM
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Fritz, good read on that article. You mentioned in your post that the market for FD’s in particular may have already either leveled off or even turned the other way. I think many people on this forum wonder the same thing, despite seeing several vehicles in the database go for top draw money.
In your personal experience, given your recent transactions or lack thereof perhaps, do you believe the market has turned?
Nick
In your personal experience, given your recent transactions or lack thereof perhaps, do you believe the market has turned?
Nick
02-06-18, 09:33 AM
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Fritz, good read on that article. You mentioned in your post that the market for FD’s in particular may have already either leveled off or even turned the other way. I think many people on this forum wonder the same thing, despite seeing several vehicles in the database go for top draw money.
In your personal experience, given your recent transactions or lack thereof perhaps, do you believe the market has turned?
Nick
In your personal experience, given your recent transactions or lack thereof perhaps, do you believe the market has turned?
Nick
I suspect in 5 years the market will be higher or in the 40k range for nice cars. Or it could be abysmal with interest rates at 7 percent and people struggling to make house payments. Who knows.
The one thing I do know is if I was a dealer I'd be unloading right now because the market is red hot
Or just like the stock market now isn't the time to get greedy. The greed may have come and gone.Here's the ssm r2 listed along with some other dreamers: https://www.carsforsale.com/Search?Make=Mazda&Model=RX-7&MinModelYear=1993&Radius=100&PageNumber=1&OrderB y=Relevance&OrderDirection=desc
Last edited by Fritz Flynn; 02-06-18 at 09:38 AM.
02-06-18, 11:05 AM
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Agree with everything you’ve said. Typically, Google Docs can download as other file extensions. I believe Molotovman could download the info as an Excel Spreadsheet where we could then format all the data like you suggested. For now, we still need to collect more data to draw any meaningful conclusions.
Original paint is a great question but one that most people can’t answer. How do you really know if hasn’t been painted? But, it may be worth adding.
Nick
Here's a link to an excel export of the results for you to graph away. CLICK HERE
I left things like "original paint" and "original interior" out on purpose; I intended things like that to be included in the optional notes or modifications long answer sections. We can beat the information to death trying to get as many data points as possible to graph but in the end it will be difficult because most FD's that sell are modified in some way and mileage is a huge variable. I think the best use of graphs would be to plot factory colors and sale prices and 100% stock low mileage sale prices over the years.
02-11-18, 08:44 PM
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Please contribute to our database. Click this link and fill out the short form. It will take less than 3 minutes and will help us better understand the market for our future classics.
https://goo.gl/forms/Y89gIyIYIWHM9tR53
Thank you!
Nick
https://goo.gl/forms/Y89gIyIYIWHM9tR53
Thank you!
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02-24-18, 10:41 PM
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Here’s the form to contribute:
https://goo.gl/forms/Y89gIyIYIWHM9tR53
And here are the results so far:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...47&single=true
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https://goo.gl/forms/Y89gIyIYIWHM9tR53
And here are the results so far:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...47&single=true
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03-05-18, 07:53 PM
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Here’s the form to contribute:
https://goo.gl/forms/Y89gIyIYIWHM9tR53
And here are the results so far:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...47&single=true
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https://goo.gl/forms/Y89gIyIYIWHM9tR53
And here are the results so far:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...47&single=true
Nick
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I have now stickied this Thread and subject material..seeing it would be informative to have some price points from different areas of the globe/country..
..The ideal Car is always 100 bucks MORE than you can afford!
..The ideal Car is always 100 bucks MORE than you can afford!
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