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laujesse 06-23-19 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn (Post 12354382)
The only reason to keep an FD is because you like the car. There is no practical reason to own one.

Sell it.

I don't see a stock FD coming close to keeping up with a performance model 3 on any type course, be it autocross or road course (AWD 450 hp and 470 torque/fd doesn't have a chance). EVs are going to take over the world. It sounds crazy but I believe in 10 years 1/2 the cars on the road will be electric.

IMO it will be less than 5 years nearly every car high end car produced will be electric, and if they have a generator it will be rotary, because of this I see nothing but good things in the future for the resale value of all rotary collector cars, keeping the FD is a good financial decision if you can find the space. Pistons will be extinct long before rotors.

TwinCharged RX7 06-24-19 12:21 AM

That's doubtful.

The part about pistons being extinct before rotors. Rotors are already endangered species. Pistons are the most efficient they've ever been. It will be some time before they go extinct.

Molotovman 06-24-19 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by TwinCharged RX7 (Post 12354887)
That's doubtful.

The part about pistons being extinct before rotors. Rotors are already endangered species. Pistons are the most efficient they've ever been. It will be some time before they go extinct.

Agreed, I'm doubtful that the electrical infrastructure in the rest of the world will be able to support mass charging. Battery tech and fast charging are really the key to moving electric cars forward, it's going to be hard to replace the ability to "gas and go".

arghx 06-24-19 07:50 AM

The infrastructure is getting better, but if you're a renter your charging options are still very limited, and that doesn't work for lots of people.

DaleClark 06-24-19 10:18 AM

Sorry to hear you are selling the car! I do hope to still see you around the forum, you've been a fantastic resource over the years.

I agree, it just doesn't make any sense to keep the car around if it's not doing anything for you.

I tried to get out of the RX-7 scene a number of years back - I bought an SC300 and wanted to just keep it nice and clean and enjoy it. Quickly realized that wasn't my thing. RX-7's got into my blood, I love tinkering with the cars, fixing them up, you name it. I've also thought about getting something more exotic but realized I couldn't afford to truly tinker and modify it. The RX-7 just hits a sweet spot of performance, good looks, and mod-ability for me.

I dig the heck out of the Teslas. The Model 3 isn't as sexy as the previous sedan (Type S? Can't remember the naming) - that car is just stunning.

Good luck with the sale, hope your car goes to someone who can really appreciate and take care of it!

Dale

Fritz Flynn 06-24-19 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by DaleClark (Post 12354963)
Sorry to hear you are selling the car! I do hope to still see you around the forum, you've been a fantastic resource over the years.

I agree, it just doesn't make any sense to keep the car around if it's not doing anything for you.

I tried to get out of the RX-7 scene a number of years back - I bought an SC300 and wanted to just keep it nice and clean and enjoy it. Quickly realized that wasn't my thing. RX-7's got into my blood, I love tinkering with the cars, fixing them up, you name it. I've also thought about getting something more exotic but realized I couldn't afford to truly tinker and modify it. The RX-7 just hits a sweet spot of performance, good looks, and mod-ability for me.

I dig the heck out of the Teslas. The Model 3 isn't as sexy as the previous sedan (Type S? Can't remember the naming) - that car is just stunning.

Good luck with the sale, hope your car goes to someone who can really appreciate and take care of it!

Dale

YEP

What bonds you to a car is working on it and driving it. The FD rewards you on both fronts in a massive way.

As long as I'm physically able to work on them I'll probably always have a spot in the garage for one.

PS AND what originally won me over is that in my mind it's easily one of the coolest (looks, size, handling, power delivery, sounds, smell, blah blah blah) cars that has ever rolled across this planet.

laujesse 06-25-19 01:21 AM


Originally Posted by TwinCharged RX7 (Post 12354887)
That's doubtful.

The part about pistons being extinct before rotors. Rotors are already endangered species. Pistons are the most efficient they've ever been. It will be some time before they go extinct.


You are correct, pistons are as efficient as they have ever been, yet they are still 1/3 as fuel efficient, 3 times the weight, and need to be overhauled at 1/3 the engine hours of a wankel designed to run at a constant rpm and load. Range extending generators run at a constant load and RPM, meaning piston engine will not be able to compete in this arena, and it will be the only arena in town in short order. Wankel design also has greater fuel type flexibility. It will be a while but they will go well before wankel.

With effective on board wankel generators electrical infrastructure will be a convenience not a requirement.

arghx 06-25-19 06:03 AM

Considering the low sales in the US of mass market plug ins like the Volt (canceled), I'd say it will be an uphill climb for any range extender here.

HiWire 06-25-19 09:27 AM

Do you guys think Mazda has made any breakthroughs in materials science, etc. for the rotary engine?

I'm looking forward to the release of SkyActiv-X this fall – you'd think some of the SkyActiv research has rotary applications.

Johnny Kommavongsa 06-25-19 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by DaleClark (Post 12354963)

Good luck with the sale, hope your car goes to someone who can really appreciate and take care of it!

Dale

Would you consider me someone who can appreciate it and take care of it?

Skeese 06-26-19 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by Narfle (Post 12354498)
FDs are a relationship. Most other cars are just machines. You'll recall once you're gone ;)

This is 100% true. Through the tides of FD ownership you'll have times when you love it and think its the best thing ever and times when you want to roll it out in the yard and torch it but at the end of the day the idea of not having it is beyond weird, sad and depressing. Well, at least to me.

Teslas are cool though.

Skeese

DaleClark 06-26-19 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by Johnny Kommavongsa (Post 12355324)
Would you consider me someone who can appreciate it and take care of it?

Hahaha very much so!

Dale

Molotovman 06-26-19 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by Johnny Kommavongsa (Post 12355324)
Would you consider me someone who can appreciate it and take care of it?

Does this indicate you're the one who made the deposit?

Johnny Kommavongsa 06-26-19 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by DaleClark (Post 12355397)
Hahaha very much so!

Dale

ha thxs Dale!


Originally Posted by Molotovman (Post 12355399)
Does this indicate you're the one who made the deposit?

Yes.

Natey 06-26-19 11:40 AM

You lost me at "performs equal or better than the FD".

Good luck with the sale and congrats to Johnny on a nice clean RX-7 though!

gracer7-rx7 06-26-19 02:41 PM

I have a Model 3 as well. It's a great DD and fun to drive but it is not as engaging as the FD. On the other hand, I haven't driven my FD in 6 months as I've been lazy about getting smog done...

arghx 06-27-19 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by gracer7-rx7 (Post 12355487)
I have a Model 3 as well. It's a great DD and fun to drive but it is not as engaging as the FD. On the other hand, I haven't driven my FD in 6 months as I've been lazy about getting smog done...

Which Model 3 trim level did you get? There is a night and day difference between the dual motor AWD cars and the other trims.

Smokey The Talon 06-27-19 04:13 PM

Based on your description of use, I think you made the right call to sell. Hope you stay around the community as you've been an invaluable resource (especially the PFC tuning community).

Donovan 06-27-19 10:55 PM

If I could afford a ludicrous speed package model S, I'd set my FD out on the street with a free sign. Electric is SO fun and its the way of the future. I wish I could convert the RX7 into an electric motor car. Motor goes? Unbolt two nuts, pull it out and bolt in the new one. :)

arghx 06-28-19 09:49 AM

FD is sold. Johnny is driving it back right now.

Thanks everyone. I think I made the right decision. I'll still be around, don't worry.

Narfle 06-28-19 01:21 PM

Glad it's all in the family.

gracer7-rx7 06-30-19 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by arghx (Post 12355622)
Which Model 3 trim level did you get? There is a night and day difference between the dual motor AWD cars and the other trims.

I've had it a year now. Back then, the only option was the long range rwd.


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