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COsborne 02-25-03 09:54 PM

AT to MT swap
 
I'm going saturday to buy my new FD. My only problem is the AT transmission. I am definitely going to swap it but I am interested in how much I should expect to pay for parts and how much I can sell the rebuilt auto tranny for. Thanks.

Garrett 02-25-03 10:03 PM

If you are in SC, talk to my technition Bryan right outside of Charlotte. He is the best around and all he works on is RX-7s. He'll definitely be able to help you out with the manual conversion. I am not sure about the total price but it is well worth it. Tell him Garrett sent ya.

www.rotorsportsracing.com

COsborne 02-25-03 10:05 PM

thanks but I'll be doing it myself.

Garrett 02-25-03 10:11 PM

It's always the best way.

diablone 02-25-03 10:48 PM

A few people on this forum have done the swap. One had posted a walk-through with price listings for his swap. Try and find that.

COsborne 02-25-03 10:49 PM

wow that would be ideal as it would provide me with exactly what is needed as well. Thanks diablone

diablone 02-25-03 10:52 PM

The user is 'ejmack1.' But it seems as though the thread was deleted.

Shard 02-25-03 11:02 PM

I'm also interested in what would be required for a tranny swap.

COsborne 02-25-03 11:04 PM

Im pretty much just interested in what is a good deal for the parts... for example:

transmission - $x
driveshaft - $x
pedals - $x

BoostedRex 02-26-03 12:09 AM

COsborne, I don't know if you remember me or not but I'm in Charleston and had the '93 Touring 5 speed. The car has now become a parts car if you're interested. My entire driveline is still perfect and I'd be willing to work something out with you for the parts that you'd need. Especially if we could work out a deal on your FC. PM me or email at thephoenix858@hotmail.com I do hope that you're interested. I'd really like to pick up your FC. Let me know something. laterz.

Zach

COsborne 02-26-03 12:24 AM

doesnt happen to be the drivetrain john is trying to sell me does it? :)

BoostedRex 02-26-03 12:25 AM

Yeah, that's the one. Hey, are you near a phone that I could call you on??

BoostedRex 02-26-03 12:26 AM

If so, PM me with the number and we'll talk.

COsborne 02-26-03 12:27 AM

yeah I can go get it downstairs or you can IM me on aim OsborneStyle

BoostedRex 02-26-03 12:30 AM

Go get the phone. I'm at work and can't access AIM. THanx. PM me with the number

COsborne 02-26-03 12:31 AM

you have a pm

BoostedRex 02-26-03 04:17 AM

Maybe, maybe not TTurboXfd3s. I'm trying to work out a sweet deal with him. Laterz.

Zach

cover8 02-26-03 08:09 AM

good tranny = $500

shifter = $200
4:10 diff = $500
or just 5 speed companion plate (recommended) = $100
drive shaft = $75
wiring harness used(recommended) = $250
pedals = $100
clutch (new dude) 6-puck ceramic w/ HD pressure plate = $500
stock flywheel = $75
miscellaneous bolts (like bell housing bolts) = $50
manual ecu = $100
new fluid (neo) = $75
boot leather = $50
knob = $100 oem
instrument cluster = $200 used low miles
lightened flywheel (what I did) = $500
clutch master = $70
Clutch slave = $50
SS clutch line = $25
clutch pipes= $12

*TOTAL: $2932 (at least)

350 rwhp 5-speed Fd: PRICELESS!

Great some folks claim did it for under 1k...whatever!!! this is very rare...and I would not put a used clutch etc since you will not want to do this again!

*The above price does not include getting GANKED by other members on the Forum.

This is a huge undertaking...do not underestimate it...if you are buying I would avoid this altogether and get a 5speed.

ejmack1 02-26-03 08:27 AM

Very simple task, I can not tell you how simple it is. I did this conversion on jackstands, with a 90 piece mechanics set. With no air tools. And yes it was right around $1K. Selling all my stock parts, I wouldn't be suprised if I did it for around $800. It takes a lot of patience to get this done, that is how I got it done so cheap. I found a guy parting his car and made an offer for everything. Then i bought a new clutch, 400 bucks from rx7.com.Wiring harness was a very very easy task to convert.

good tranny = $300

shifter = $200 you are on crack, $20 bucks for stock shifter
4:10 diff = $150
or just 5 speed companion plate (recommended) = $100 so i guess you added this price in also
drive shaft = $75
wiring harness used(recommended) = NOT NEEDED
pedals = $100
clutch = $400
stock flywheel = $25
miscellaneous bolts (like bell housing bolts) = $10
manual ecu = $100 I didn't include this, because i was upgrading it anyway
new fluid (neo) = $75
boot leather = $20
knob = $20
instrument cluster = Not needed, but i got mine for $70
lightened flywheel (what I did) = Not Needed, plus you already added price for stock flywheel
clutch master = $20
Clutch slave = $20
SS clutch line = $10 at autozone
clutch pipes= $12


Your prices are screwy man, you add the same type of item multiple times, you increase many of the prices by 100%, and most people will buy used equipment...

The people that have needed help in the past, and are actually interested in this conversion, have found my telephone number and called me personally. I have spent probably 10-12 hours on the phone with people walking them through shit, but responding to bullshit posts like this is really a waste of time.

Originally posted by cover8
good tranny = $500

shifter = $200
4:10 diff = $500
or just 5 speed companion plate (recommended) = $100
drive shaft = $75
wiring harness used(recommended) = $250
pedals = $100
clutch (new dude) 6-puck ceramic w/ HD pressure plate = $500
stock flywheel = $75
miscellaneous bolts (like bell housing bolts) = $50
manual ecu = $100
new fluid (neo) = $75
boot leather = $50
knob = $100 oem
instrument cluster = $200 used low miles
lightened flywheel (what I did) = $500
clutch master = $70
Clutch slave = $50
SS clutch line = $25
clutch pipes= $12

*TOTAL: $2932 (at least)

350 rwhp 5-speed Fd: PRICELESS!

Great some folks claim did it for under 1k...whatever!!! this is very rare...and I would not put a used clutch etc since you will not want to do this again!

*The above price does not include getting GANKED by other members on the Forum.

This is a huge undertaking...do not underestimate it...if you are buying I would avoid this altogether and get a 5speed.


ejmack1 02-26-03 08:29 AM

Btw, there is nothing wrong with using a used cluthc(I did it at first, then bought a new one, and still remained around a grand), as long as there is meat on it and you replace the collar and ring on the pressure plate, you will be fine.


Originally posted by ejmack1
Very simple task, I can not tell you how simple it is. I did this conversion on jackstands, with a 90 piece mechanics set. With no air tools. And yes it was right around $1K. Selling all my stock parts, I wouldn't be suprised if I did it for around $800. It takes a lot of patience to get this done, that is how I got it done so cheap. I found a guy parting his car and made an offer for everything. Then i bought a new clutch, 400 bucks from rx7.com.Wiring harness was a very very easy task to convert.

good tranny = $300

shifter = $200 you are on crack, $20 bucks for stock shifter
4:10 diff = $150
or just 5 speed companion plate (recommended) = $100 so i guess you added this price in also
drive shaft = $75
wiring harness used(recommended) = NOT NEEDED
pedals = $100
clutch = $400
stock flywheel = $25
miscellaneous bolts (like bell housing bolts) = $10
manual ecu = $100 I didn't include this, because i was upgrading it anyway
new fluid (neo) = $75
boot leather = $20
knob = $20
instrument cluster = Not needed, but i got mine for $70
lightened flywheel (what I did) = Not Needed, plus you already added price for stock flywheel
clutch master = $20
Clutch slave = $20
SS clutch line = $10 at autozone
clutch pipes= $12


Your prices are screwy man, you add the same type of item multiple times, you increase many of the prices by 100%, and most people will buy used equipment...

The people that have needed help in the past, and are actually interested in this conversion, have found my telephone number and called me personally. I have spent probably 10-12 hours on the phone with people walking them through shit, but responding to bullshit posts like this is really a waste of time.


ejmack1 02-26-03 08:29 AM


Originally posted by TTurboXfd3s
EXPECT TO SPEND ALOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT OF MONEY
Don't we expect this at the time we sign the loan or title of the car anyway?

cover8 02-26-03 09:01 AM

Seriously...tell me BULLSHIT?....I have damned near R&Red the whole car....

I bought the tranny and sent it away to have it rebuilt...I guess if you want GHETTO job yes it can be done much cheaper...but I plan to keep my car for awhile and think doing things right the first time is the best. I want solid piece of mind...you never know what kind of parts you get on the forum.

Really ejmack1.....how many people on this forum have a chance to buy everything for less than 1k? Not many.

I dont want to put used clutch in my car...I'm there...might as well do it right...not saying you can get away with doing it another way...that is just not my way.

Yeah dickhead..the pettit short shifter runs about $200..that is what I have...sure you can put a $20 shifter in your car (to go with your veilside front end)...I would rather not.

My tranny I bought ($350) had rebuilt for another $300...to make sure it was fit for track and agressive driving...do not want to go back in 10k miles later to repair.

WHO SOLD YOU A 4.10 DIFF FOR $150?...if you got a good one well more power to you...not likely as they go for $450 regularly on this forum and $850 at the junk yards.

Where can you buy a stock refinished flywheel for $25? (sure you did...but is this the norm?) if you are going to get a new clutch...most companies will not even warranty them without a resurfaced flywheel it costs about $30 just to resurface it.

Dude, please dont talk out the side of your neck...big deal you did it with jack stands....well so did I. my car has been down for four months....the engine bay is completely polished....brakes, coilovers, intake exhaust...did it all blah blah...you like braggin to others how cheap you did it...but anyone who has done reasonable research knows better.

Why put a used knob inside? I wont, my interior panels are complete carbon fiber....no wore out knobs...since I have a pettot short shifter you cant use the Fd knob ($97) I used the miata knob ($119)...unless you want to put a fake apc knob in your car!! Yes, I am aware mspeed sells a knob for $50...(not anymore they are discontinued)

Why put a used clutch slave or master in your car? It is not that much more to buy it new...hell thats like buying used brake lines!

I personally chose the 8.5lb billet Al flywheel...so i'll be selling a brand new flywheel soon for about $75.

so please help people but dont speak for others....I have damn near rebuilt my car...the whole thing.

This is not hard per se...but the conversion is very involved and I am just sharing my experiences....and costs since I have done it myself.

$2432...at least for parts

Or I guess they can do it ghetto for 1k!

I dont ever want to do this again...so much work...learned a bunch though...and will post pics very soon.

I will run car for about a week to make sure all checks are good then it will be in the body shop for two weeks.

oh btw, let chat about the ecu...this $100 is if you dont have mods...

used ecu pettit $400
power fc = $1300

"...an this hits just keep on coming."

ejmak1:
"thanks for playing"


ejmack1 02-26-03 09:13 AM

hmmm, so you are giving prices for nearly all new stuff, a lot of the people that are interested in doing this conversion, don't have a lot of money to spend, and there is nothing wrong with used items(except the clutch with should get replaced, but if you have to go used, there is nothing wrong with that). It takes 30 minutes to drop a tranny, so if a clutch goes... who cares!

stock shifter, you can get for about 20 bucks... you don't NEED a pettit shifter to do the conversion, you don't even need a new shift knob. Mazdaspeed(can't remember who it was) or someone has them for 50 bucks if you want a new one(not stock, but it still looks good), and they look pretty damn good. Clutch Slave and Master, rebuild kits all together cost around 20 bucks for both... and you can pick up the actual cyclinders for cheap

I am very happy for you that you have a nearly rebuilt car, and have a degree in mathematics(whooop'd doooo). Im perfectly happy, with school full time and work full time. Is that such a bad thing?
Obviously English didn't rank high in your education.

hmmmm....your still in college and I have a minor in mathematics....no add it the numbers again.
The flywheels was kinda pushing it on price, but hey, i found a resurfaced one for that price. Shit happens, you get deals if you wait.

All in all, for havin my car since i was 18, and pretty much knowing every part of the car(or having every part removed) lol, I dont think im doin to bad... Ghetto??? Nah, just well thought out and extremely patient. No one could tell it was ever an auto, and I have had 3 RX7 owners drive it.

ejmack1 02-26-03 09:16 AM

BTW, the differential wqas bought from a reputable shop in Florida.... you just have to wait for deals man... and chill thefuck out!

ejmack1 02-26-03 09:18 AM


Originally posted by cover8

Yeah dickhead..the pettit short shifter runs about $200..that is what I have...sure you can put a $20 shifter in your car...I woud rather not.


No one is asking what you would rather do, they are asking for information....


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