What wideband should I get ?
I am going to get a wideband , which should i get
i am looking at under $500 range i should have listed most of them, if other please tell me which and why thanks Innovate, FJO, TechEdge, FJO, AEM, PLX ... should be all heres the related mod: t-66 850 primary / 1600 secondary ported motor cast hks manifold 3 inch exhaust tial bov tial 46mm wastegate fuel pump (aeromotive i think) edit: i was trying to make it a poll ... too late i guess btw i m leaning towards Innovate LM-1 |
everyone seems to get the inovative lm-1 however there has been people that have had problems with them. The plx looks like a damn good system as well and everyone on this site that has one likes em'.
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haltech, microtech, wolf?
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oh forgot, microtech
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***haltech, microtech, wolf?*****
So your saying that the haltech, microtech, wolf all have builtin widebands and they all sell for less than 500 bucks? I missed that feature on them and the price list I saw for them was......a few bucks more. humor TechEdge works just fine. One of the other brands uses a cigar lighter for power. Turns me off to see that feature. |
i have the microtech LT-8, what it can do is that is datalog the wideband as narrowband.
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links?
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Originally Posted by sub9lulu
i have the microtech LT-8, what it can do is that is datalog the wideband as narrowband.
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PLX. I love mine.
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Originally Posted by Ryde _Or_Die
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Originally Posted by koukifc3s
this one looks nice for $400
I got my PLX because all i wanted to know was my A/F ratio in big bright red numbers. Not a bunch of other crap. I have other things to monitor all that. |
Originally Posted by adamlewis
Yeah but its got a bosch sensor. That drops the price of the kit a lot but the Bosch doesnt hold up well to the high heat as well as the NTK does. I know some people get the bosch and do just fine, but I never hear of peopel having problems using the NTK sensors.
I got my PLX because all i wanted to know was my A/F ratio in big bright red numbers. Not a bunch of other crap. I have other things to monitor all that. |
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Techedge
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Originally Posted by koukifc3s
cool, u have any links?
http://www.plxdevices.com/index.htm I got the M200 a long time ago. They have a whole slew of other options you can get now though. |
Originally Posted by HAILERS
***haltech, microtech, wolf?*****
So your saying that the haltech, microtech, wolf all have builtin widebands and they all sell for less than 500 bucks? I missed that feature on them and the price list I saw for them was......a few bucks more. humor TechEdge works just fine. One of the other brands uses a cigar lighter for power. Turns me off to see that feature. i'll be using an M-300... seems to fit my budget. |
The best of the best
TechEdge WB-O2 - WBo2 for 7057 w/ O2 sensors, stainless bung & Big Green LED readout for dash $420 shipped
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Personally I like the AEM for its display and the way it would match my greddy gauges. But I need to be able to datalog to tune by. Right now I am planning on getting the Zt-2 with the display unit for $400. They even have a USB cable to use if you only have one serial port on your laptop.
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I use an FJO datalogging setup with the digital display.
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Originally Posted by adamlewis
Yeah but its got a bosch sensor. That drops the price of the kit a lot but the Bosch doesnt hold up well to the high heat as well as the NTK does. I know some people get the bosch and do just fine, but I never hear of peopel having problems using the NTK sensors.
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Originally Posted by ultradef
Try using the Innovate HBX-1 (~$90) heat-sink bung extender for longer life on the Bosch sensors. It will help extend the life of the Bosch sensor quite a bit. Its a little more expensive now, but it will save a lot later.
I was looking at that witch I like alot! however is it good for all o2 sensors???? Thanks. |
With the PLX ones you can't datalog without the 400 or 500 right? And how much better is the NTK than the Bosch? I mean its 3 times the price so unless it lasts over 3 times as long or for some reason the Bosch isn't accurate I don't see a need to go with the more expensive one.
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The plx will data log if you have an ems that can accept a 0-5v input or a linear 0-1v input(microtech lt-8).
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Originally Posted by SwooshMan
The plx will data log if you have an ems that can accept a 0-5v input or a linear 0-1v input(microtech lt-8).
I thought that when most of these WB's use an EMS they only show it in narrowband? |
Originally Posted by Ryde _Or_Die
I thought that when most of these WB's use an EMS they only show it in narrowband?
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Originally Posted by Ryde _Or_Die
With the PLX ones you can't datalog without the 400 or 500 right? And how much better is the NTK than the Bosch? I mean its 3 times the price so unless it lasts over 3 times as long or for some reason the Bosch isn't accurate I don't see a need to go with the more expensive one.
Ive never personally used a Bosch. I know people that have and they claim that they dont respond as fast and that they give funny readings when they get too hot. I know a few people with them that they have failed on. Thats why I chose to get the NTK L2H2. |
Heres a snipit from techedges own site
"The image shows a Dick Smith version of the original FMD designed for the Bosch LSM-11 sensor. Here's an image of the Jaycar version. A more accurate wideband fuel mixture kit using the NTK L1H1 UEGO sensor is available from Tech Edge. " http://www.techedge.com.au/vehicle/wbo2/fmd.htm the NTK offers a 1.5% improvement in accuracy over the Bosch unit. http://www.injector.com/motecplm.php Bosch LSU and NTK UEGO Sensors - Both the MoTeC M400/600/800/880 and the MoTeC PLM are capable of operating with either the NTK UEGO or the Bosch LSU-4 5 wire wide band sensors. Of the two, the NTK is most accurate. It is a true laboratory grade sensor. Its accuracy has been found to be about 1.5% better than that of the Bosch LSU. Additionally the NTK has a better response time than does the LSU again about 1.5%. The NTK is the benchmark against which the LSU is measured. The advantage of the LSU sensor is its lower price compared to the NTK. If you are doing very precise and accurate laboratory type testing, the NTK is the sensor for you. http://www.motec.com/definitions.htm |
Originally Posted by hondahater
I was looking at that witch I like alot! however is it good for all o2 sensors???? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Ryde _Or_Die
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