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hurleysurf24 05-04-10 12:47 AM

What secondaries to run?
 
Going with a 720cc on the secondaries ... do they make drop in high impedence ones yet? Or are they all low impedence that require resistors?

Who do I go with? Denso, Greddy, Bosch ?

RotaryRocket88 05-04-10 01:01 AM

Greddy injectors are just Denso sold under a different name. They're all going to be low impedance, so source some 6-10 ohm, 10-20 watt resistors to go with them. I don't think Bosch makes 720cc injectors; I just know they make the 1600cc injectors that are popular on high HP builds.

eage8 05-04-10 04:52 PM

Injector dynamics makes some 725cc high impedance injectors that are really nice and are based off a much newer injector design with adapters.

I just put a set in my primaries and a set of their 2200cc High Impedance injectors in my secondaries.

http://www.injectordynamics.com/

if you go with them make sure you ask for 11mm/60mm upper adapters and denso lower cushions. They should know what FCs run now because I just worked with them on mine.

http://www.injectordynamics.com/ID725-60-11.jpg

-Crash- 05-04-10 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by eage8 (Post 9975246)
Injector dynamics makes some 725cc high impedance injectors that are really nice and are based off a much newer injector design with adapters.

I just put a set in my primaries and a set of their 2200cc High Impedance injectors in my secondaries.

http://www.injectordynamics.com/

if you go with them make sure you ask for 11mm/60mm upper adapters and denso lower cushions. They should know what FCs run now because I just worked with them on mine.

http://www.injectordynamics.com/ID725-60-11.jpg

Will these fit the stock manifold and fuel rail without modification?

arghx 05-04-10 06:45 PM

It'll definitely fit in the rail, as for the manifold I'm not sure if it will seal properly to prevent a vacuum leak. The factory injectors use a lower grommet, not an o-ring.

eage8 05-05-10 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by arghx (Post 9975468)
It'll definitely fit in the rail, as for the manifold I'm not sure if it will seal properly to prevent a vacuum leak. The factory injectors use a lower grommet, not an o-ring.

They sell it with a denso style lower grommet as well. it's the same size as the stock grommets.

-Crash- 05-05-10 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by eage8 (Post 9976655)
They sell it with a denso style lower grommet as well. it's the same size as the stock grommets.

Thank you Eage8.

Go48 05-05-10 03:56 PM

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Just installed a set of RC Engineering (www.rceng.com) 750cc injectors in the secondaries of my S5. In conjunction with a BNR Stage 1 hybrid, a Supra TT fuel pump and tuning with an S-AFC II, the best dyno run was 267 whp and 230 ft-lbs at ~9psi and 11+ AFR.

Their high impedence units are referred to as "Saturated".

From the FAQ on their web site:
"Do I need high or low resistance injectors for my application?

Injectors are classified into two categories.
1. High impedance/resistance (saturated) 12-16 Ohms.
2. Low impedance/resistance (peak & hold) 0.5-6 Ohms.

Saturated injectors require roughly 1-1.5 amps to open the injector. Peak & hold injectors initially needs about 4-6 amps, and once open drops to roughly 2-3 amps to keep it open. ECU design will dictate the use of one or the other. Most late model cars will use saturated injectors."

Fleemer 05-05-10 04:29 PM

thanks for that dyno sheet, was looking at bnr turbos and was wondering where boost started.

wanted to keep it close to stock :)

eage8 05-05-10 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by Fleemer (Post 9977540)
thanks for that dyno sheet, was looking at bnr turbos and was wondering where boost started.

wanted to keep it close to stock :)

Here is my BNR Stage2

it has the boost on it, though it's kind of bouncy, make sure you look at the scale :p:

http://userpages.umbc.edu/%7Emigol1/...Dynoresize.jpg

hurleysurf24 05-05-10 11:14 PM

so rx 750 saturated injectors it is.

2Fierce 05-05-10 11:25 PM

I think it all depends on what ecu you are running as well.

If I could do it all over again, I'd get the rx7store kit sans injectors, order 2 1000cc ID, and grab a sprint re. Done.

edit: I'm running 1600cc's modded to fit the stock rail, fwiw.

Go48 05-06-10 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by hurleysurf24 (Post 9978400)
so rx 750 saturated injectors it is.

Don't forget to upgrade the fuel pump to at least a 3rd gen pump or better yet, a Supra TT pump. The latter pump should be good for any future upgrades you may install.

hurleysurf24 05-06-10 12:22 PM

Here's what I'm running:

BNR Stage 4
Microtech LT-10S with X4 box
Z32 TT Fuel Pump

Plan on pushing 375+. So I'd think the 720's should do it? I really don't want to upgrade the rails and what not, was just looking for a plug and play solution.

eage8 05-06-10 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by hurleysurf24 (Post 9979246)
Here's what I'm running:

BNR Stage 4
Microtech LT-10S with X4 box
Z32 TT Fuel Pump

Plan on pushing 375+. So I'd think the 720's should do it? I really don't want to upgrade the rails and what not, was just looking for a plug and play solution.

4x720s won't handle 375+

with 1680cc pro-import injectors from injector.com you won't have to modify the rail. or 2200cc injectors I posted earlier.

hurleysurf24 05-06-10 04:14 PM

guess ill need the 1680s :)


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