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3RotorRocket 07-10-04 10:32 PM

What the hell now!
 
Well I go outside today for the first drive of the day and as im turning to pull out of the driveway I hear a thump...thump...thump.As im heading down the street by the time I started to shift into second the steering went wack pulling hard to the right shaking the TII side to side and made the same very loud thump noise.Anyone have this happen to them be 4?What's the problem?Thanks in advance.

Aaron

3RotorRocket 07-10-04 10:34 PM

Also when I steer from left to right it feels like somethings really loose in the front.And also b 4 this stuff happened while on the freeway slightly turning to the right...it felt as if my tires were skipping and it shaked the wheel with like a skipping feel.Anyone have any answers?

Project84 07-10-04 10:39 PM

I'd check out the power steering pump if you got one, the steering rack, the front suspension.

3RotorRocket 07-10-04 10:44 PM


Originally posted by Project84
I'd check out the power steering pump if you got one, the steering rack, the front suspension.
power steering has been removed by previous owner im pretty sure

3RotorRocket 07-10-04 10:44 PM

I hope it isn't an axel that I need

3RotorRocket 07-14-04 03:46 AM

I went out to the car this morning and turned the steering wheel ,

the steering wheel turned but the wheels didn't.

Anyone have an idea of what it might be???

Thx!

chumma7 07-14-04 04:21 AM

tie rod or another similar part of your steering linkage

RXSevenSymphonies 07-14-04 04:49 AM

you might try just one sig post per thread..

3RotorRocket 07-14-04 05:19 AM


Originally posted by MaYnard5000
you might try just one sig post per thread..
yeah your right that looks awful

you couldn't shed some light opon this :asshole:

3RotorRocket 07-14-04 05:22 AM


Originally posted by chumma7
tie rod or another similar part of your steering linkage
how much do new tie rods run ?$?

Barwick 07-14-04 02:14 PM


Originally posted by 4RotorRocket
power steering has been removed by previous owner im pretty sure
Power steering has always been there when I sold it to you, pump should still be there, it's pretty hard to miss (although it does kinda resemble an A/C pump now that I think about it.. but the A/C was gone).

It's hard to say what it is, just chock the rear wheels, pull the E-brake to lock the rears even more, then put the front end up in the air and take a looksie at it. As long as *both* front wheels are up in the air and the rear is chocked properly (and the car won't roll at *all*), have a buddy turn the wheel while you lay *in front* of the car (NOT under it) and watch the steering linkage do its thing, see if it moves or not. Heck, I've never heard of it, but maybe the steering rack went kablooie, who knows. But more than likely sounds like a tie rod end or a ball joint was going bad and finally went. Or possibly even a ball joint on the control arm, it's hard to say without more info.

I still miss that car.

VietFC 07-14-04 04:28 PM

tighten your lug nuts.

WookeysRX7 07-14-04 05:03 PM

THe other week i got outta was driving my car and i kept on hearing a Thump Thump Thump. i got home and went to check what the hell was wrong, turned out someone jacked 2 of my lugnuts and loosened the other 3.... And i know i put them on very tight.... I checked all the other wheels and they were ok. Scared the piss outta me! But for the no steering part, id say tierod.

boosted1205 07-14-04 05:45 PM


Originally posted by VietFC
tighten your lug nuts.

I'm pretty sure his wheels would turn when he turns the steering wheel even if there was just 1 lug nut on the wheel. I'm not sure though. I'd have to check.

screamingbluemessiah 07-14-04 05:54 PM

if it's the tie rod, most likely your tires would be pointed in 2 different directions.

If you didn't have power steering, you would know it. I had the power steering belt fly off while driving... makes big noise, and the steering became very heavy.

If the steering wheel turns, and the wheels don't, then it is something with the steering column. Only way to check, is to jack it up and look at it. It would be very obvious.

WAYNE88N/A 07-14-04 06:44 PM

Ive been waiting for a thread like this to put out a warning to all of those who've removed their power steering pumps, and removed the hoses from the top of the gear box...If you feel your steering starting to "catch" a little every now & then, read on...

And, 4RotorRocket, if it's not something simple like a tie rod, or someone jacking your lug nuts (lol), you might want to check this out...

There is a needle bearing in the middle of the gearbox down there that doesn't like having pressurized power steering fluid removed from it, and sooner or later, it will take a crap. When it does, the "needles" will start jamming up the hydraulic valve that turns inside the gearbox, and your steering WILL lock up, when you least expect it to (yes, I do have first hand experience with this, lol)

The only solution to this problem is to remove the rack from the car, remove the valve assy, and remove all the "needles" from the bearing. After this, remove all intermediate ring seals from the valve body, to free up any hydraulic fluid "lock" that might occur. If you wish to leave some fluid in the system to lubricate the valve and rack pistons, and the 2 ball bearings that remain in the system at either end of the valve assy, you may do so.. (I just repacked the valve with bearing grease, and packed the piston bores with graphite based assy lube, it's worked well now for a while, probably better than thin power steering fluid would have)

4Rotor, your problem might also be the bushing "block" that pushes against the rack to keep it down & against the gear teeth from the servo valve. The bolt that holds all this stuff together is on the top front of the gearbox, with the big washer under it. Make sure it's still down & tight...

3RotorRocket 07-14-04 08:03 PM

well i'll really dig into it tomorrow today was a rainy day & I have no garage.

I went to the front of the car and laid down looking by both of the wheels ,

the front left seems to have something disconnected

WAYNE88N/A 07-14-04 08:09 PM

Damn, how often do tie-rod ends break on these cars?

Not counting the guys that hit curbs :)

RXSevenSymphonies 07-14-04 09:21 PM


Originally posted by 4RotorRocket
yeah your right that looks awful

you couldn't shed some light opon this :asshole:

No no ur sig is cool, just overkill to post it every time.

3RotorRocket 07-14-04 09:55 PM


Originally posted by WAYNE88N/A
Damn, how often do tie-rod ends break on these cars?

Not counting the guys that hit curbs :)

I didn't hit a curb smartass...I didn't hit anything!


Originally posted by MaYnard5000
No no ur sig is cool, just overkill to post it every time.
k I gotcha on that

Barwick 07-14-04 09:59 PM


Originally posted by WAYNE88N/A
Ive been waiting for a thread like this to put out a warning to all of those who've removed their power steering pumps, and removed the hoses from the top of the gear box...If you feel your steering starting to "catch" a little every now & then, read on...
Dude, which part of everybody (and me the previous owner) saying "the power steering rack AND pump is still there"

VietFC 07-14-04 10:01 PM

hey, 4rotorrocket. do you know a guy wit a del sol? aim is WNT2CREALPAIN?

3RotorRocket 07-14-04 11:03 PM


Originally posted by VietFC
hey, 4rotorrocket. do you know a guy wit a del sol? aim is WNT2CREALPAIN?
Yes I do that's one of my good buddy's why???

VietFC 07-15-04 12:27 AM

ah, i'm koo wit him dats all. ^_^
we cruise superhonda a lot.

3RotorRocket 07-15-04 06:07 PM


Originally posted by VietFC
ah, i'm koo wit him dats all. ^_^
we cruise superhonda a lot.

Cool glad to see ya picked up a Seven

I haven't seen you around here really...you on nopistons also?


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