what was the fc supposed to come with but didnt make the cut?
 

i know about the 20b in the gtus, but what else. just stuff that didnt make it past the drawing board

In the design stage they came up with some pretty crazy digital instrument stuff. I'll have to scan some stuff and post it later.

low end tourqe!!
hell, im not even sure if i can spell it?? lol

I don't think that was ever in the design specs.

and fyi
if your car is running properly, it's got plenty.

my car isnt...lol
i keep replacing crap and it laughs at me.
but no, im just wondering really. its kinda cool to see what mazda chose to ditck and that to keep

the GTU was going to come with an NA 3 rotor

The 10thAE was originally planned to have a 20B (there were actually two built, they were painted winning silver and have non turbo alum hoods) as well the GTUs (not the GTU).

Other than that 13B's throughout.

2 built? wonder if they are still around?

yea i relised that after i hit submit lol

I know one was at Mazda R&D at Irvine a year ago or so... don't know if it still is.

o what a wonderfull world it would be if our cars had 3 rotors instead of 2....

but they would have been more expensive, thus less sold. more people would have maintained theis and still have them, or the cooling problems mazda encountered would have persisted and they would have all but died out by now. ill keep my 2 rotors thanks :)

Because I a have owned an NA RX-7 and a Mustang Bullit Edition previously, I can tell you the RX-7 has NO torque at all. Maybe T2's are different.

If the owner is new to the rotary scene and doesn't know how to drive one, he'll say the same thing. As time went by, the 100-some-odd ft/lbs of torque an NA 7 has was enough even though one had to rev it high in order to get all that 100-some-odd ft/lbs. After comparing it to my Mustang, it's not even worth mentioning in the same sentence.

I know that some came with a digital logicon in japan. That kinda counts.

sure, the mustang has alot more torque.... its got a v8..thats what v8's are good for.... but the power dies after a few thousand rpm..and thats when the rotary shines.... stop comparing apples to oranges.... its a lost cause..... if you want torque, go buy a v8, if you want a rev happy, high rpm, lightweight motor...get a rotary....

note.... this is stock to stock..... i know plenty of 300+lb ft. torque rotary motors..... oh yeah, the best of both worlds @ a 1/4 of the weight

IIRC, the stock s4 Turbo II's had 180hp and 183tq from the factory... Not really "lacking the torque", unless you want to say that the TII was overall lacking power (which it wasn't in comparison to it's competitors). But yeah, your Mustang probably wasn't very cool... :op:

What I think is the best feature about rotaries are the front mid-ship design. Unbelievable handleling... not very many piston FR cars can compare.

i was reffering to the N/A...its a different story now...:D

Mustangs were not even considered in the same ball park, but rather crude little junker cars that office workers or rednecks too dumb to know better drove back in the day

These were the RX-7s competitors:
http://www.mazdamark.com/FCTurboCompare.jpg
http://www.mazdamark.com/FCnonTurboCompare.jpg
http://www.mazdamark.com/FCVertCompare.jpg

yeah thats a good point, a 2003 mustang vs an 86 mazda.....

drive anything from the 80's, they ALL lack power.... the turbo fc was FAST in 1986, but now its pretty average.

if you want a wacky comparisons, i drove a mazda 3 and a 65 chevelle with a 6 cylinder, the 65 chevy is quieter and smoother, by a lot...... but its slow, handles like a yacht....

An NA RX-7 being compared to a Bullit. LOL...why not compare the TII from 91 to the top-of-the-line Mustang of that year, or a Camaro. I once drove an 88 IROC and thought it was a great car. Now I own plenty of RX-7's and can't imagine owning a non-handling, overweight boat, that couldn't take a corner at 20 mph that a 7 could take at 40.

Does someone have the Car and Driver comparison from ~90 or 88. It was a comparison between a NA vert RX-7 and a IROC vert Camaro. I have it, but am completely oblivious on how to share it.

I'm only responding to the gentleman who responded to the original poster about the original poster's comment of the (assumingly NA) RX-7 lacking torque.

Truth be told, they do lack torque. Don't shove T2 gospel in me as I know they have tons of it and can potentially compare performance-wise to any V8.

And to the one who said my Mustang must've sucked. It was a very limited edition that I bought and cherished because of the movie. It was an impulse buy. I understood what I'd be losing and gaining by switching to a V8 from a rotary. My plans were to sell it in the BJ Auctions in the future. Unfortunately, things didn't really turn out as planned.

I will say however, if I didn't sell my 91 and kept it, I 'prolly won't be here typing this right now, hence my handle.

Ouch. Looks like all that torque made for no traction. Or maybe it was the horrible weight distribution. Or handling characteristics of a boat. Either way....ouch.

I believe it would've been just as bad with my 7. I was on my way to work and "apparently" we had a stupidly strong windstorm that day and the road was damp. The FC being lighter would've been thrown out just like my Stang.

I say "apparently" as I lost 2 weeks worth of memory. I know this from the reports that were shared with me.

People have defended the FC as saying they can withstand strong impacts quite well. It doesn't matter, the space I had left to live in was just big enough for me to fit in. If the other car hit me any faster or my car any smaller or me any bigger of a guy, I'd be dead.

I will say, one of my regrets in life is selling my FC. I absolutely loved that car. It was rare (brave blue colour), sexy and fast-ish (custom-made nitrous system).

But I am now looking into a 1990 vert ( sigh...I will never learn :wallbash: ) which will remain NA....no more fast cars...lol. Even if I almost died, I will still never drive a Volvo...hahahaha.

uRizen! Dopefish checking in from GenMay. ;)

I want to see pics of the GTUs 3-rotors and digi logicon. I guess that explains why the 20B has such similar mounts to the FC 13B's.

That is a sad loss, sorry your Bullitt bit the dust, most likely the GoodYears were to blame. I really like those, and I spent many months searching for a DHG before running across my FD. I think I probably have more Bullitt memorabilia<SP?> than most actual Bullitt owners. I'll get one some day...

However, as for comparing a 01' Bullitt to a 88' RX-7, not really fair, look to a 5.0 Mustang of the day, which was none-too-impressive. ;) Much love for both rotaries and pistons from me though.