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rx7kid4ever 09-14-05 08:27 AM

what is better single or dual exhaust
 
on any rx7 what is better single or dual exhaust??? on alll my cars i got better performance from single for some reason dual exhaust made my car slower...please i would like to know everybody thinks...

Icemark 09-14-05 08:32 AM

Non turbo??? With or without emissions???

True duals on a non turbo is the best (a single pipe all the way back for each rotor)

YearsOfDecay 09-14-05 10:16 AM

Here's the deal on single or dual..

Its got to do with flow versus weight versus noise.....

you can get a much lighter, high flowing single exhaust.. at the expense of noise...... Using a single exhaust branched to dual cans you can get the same flow rate, with less noise, at the expense of weight (and cost of materials)

True Duals are best on an N/A... HOWEVER.. not on an otherwise stock car... you need to have some fuel control to get the most out of a true dual system (no emissions) because stock N/A's go pig rich when you unplug the exhasut (on s4's.. you also run into problems with getting the 6-ports to open.. which also dogs 'em out)

Running trus duals with two cats is a retarded proposition... don't waste your time!!!

It also depends on what exhaust systems you were using, do you have an S4?? Was there enough backpressure with the duals to open the 6-ports, or were the duals stock versus an aftermarket single???? I mean... there are a Myriad of things that could cause the car to run slower with duals than the single exhaust...

GodSquadMandrake 09-14-05 10:54 AM

So an S4 still has 6 ports? Someone told me that they only have 4.
Is backpressure important with a rotary?

I installed a free flowing exhaust (straight through w/o cat) and it reduced the low end torque, but the top end HP benefitted. This is a piston engine though so I don't know how a rotary would react. I assume the flow dynamics in the combustion chamber are different.

BinaryRotary 09-14-05 11:00 AM

True dual nets the most power on an N/A but is pretty damned loud. S4's have 5-6th port, S5's do not as well as Turbo II's. Figure actually a drop of about 20 lbs if you go with a dual aftermarket system wihout cats.

RockLobster 09-14-05 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by BinaryRotary
True dual nets the most power on an N/A but is pretty damned loud. S4's have 5-6th port, S5's do not as well as Turbo II's. Figure actually a drop of about 20 lbs if you go with a dual aftermarket system wihout cats.

Are you trying to claim that S5 N/A cars do not have auxillary ports?

rx7kid4ever 09-14-05 12:03 PM

on my 87 non turbo without emissions at all.. racing beat header 4.10 possie rear exhuast port stock computer my car ran a 13.20 with dual exhaust and fresh rebuild with apexi ni mufflers. after a few people telling me that single was better i switched to a 2 1\2 straight trough no cats just one apexi n1 muffler it was louder than you could belive but the pay was great it droped my times down to 12.90 at 118 mph so in my eyes it was much better with single plus my top end was nuts...the only down fall was tickets lol lol... and also i took as much wait of the car as i could :bigthumb:

Icemark 09-14-05 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by BinaryRotary
S4's have 5-6th port, S5's do not as well as Turbo II's.

Ah, put down the crack pipe.

All 13B non turbos since '84 have aux ports. That would be 1984-2006

Regardless of what series.

Only the factory Turbos do not have aux ports

Icemark 09-14-05 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by rx7kid4ever
on my 87 non turbo without emissions at all.. racing beat header 4.10 possie rear exhuast port stock computer my car ran a 13.20 with dual exhaust and fresh rebuild with apexi ni mufflers. after a few people telling me that single was better i switched to a 2 1\2 straight trough no cats just one apexi n1 muffler it was louder than you could belive but the pay was great it droped my times down to 12.90 at 118 mph so in my eyes it was much better with single plus my top end was nuts...the only down fall was tickets lol lol... and also i took as much wait of the car as i could :bigthumb:

This is not on a stock port system or this is with nitrous???

Otherwise I am calling a big BS.

And Mazda's do not have "pozzie rear"s . Pozi or Pozitraction is GM's name for a Limited Slip Differential (LSD), and since there are not stock GM parts on a RX-7... well...then there is no Pozi rear end on a RX-7.

And calling a Limited Slip Differential (LSD) a Pozi, is like calling all refrigerators Kenmores.

Call it by what it is, not some brand name.

Stanello 09-14-05 01:00 PM

12.90 @ 118 huh? Let's see your mods and the timeslip.

rx7whore 09-14-05 01:25 PM

ya really, i want to bulid a 12 sec. NA rx7....

meddle 09-14-05 01:30 PM

hahaha 118.

snub disphenoid 09-14-05 01:30 PM

Single is the better choice if you're looking to remove weight, but if you don't mind having a system that almost weighs as much as the stocker, true duals are a good bet, they sound really unique and aren't THAT loud. The video on the Mazdatrix site is of a car with a big port and the exhaust diffusers removed, so you can't say that THAT'S how every car will sound with that system on it.

rx7kid4ever 09-14-05 01:45 PM

ok!!!!! you guys cant be for real you mean to tell me nobody here has built a rx7 to run high 12.90 low 13.20 with out nittros or turbo give it a break because here in the bronx we do it all the time... see the differnce is you guys must go by the book we dont go by the book.. you act like 12.90 is fast for an rx7 are you kidding me or what you dont always need turbo or nittros to go fast.. no need to dabait it your wright lol lol lol you guys should be driving a ford or camro sound like more you speed there the only cars that can break 12.90 or 13sec lol give it a break
O AND YOUR RIGHT IT WAS NOT POSSIE IT WAS LSD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL I KNOW MY CAR BOTH TIRES ALWAYS SPUN NO MATTER WHAT 360 180 SIDE WAYS STAND STILL DUMPING THE CLUTCH AT 8000 FOWARD REVERSE YOU NAME IT

rx7kid4ever 09-14-05 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by Icemark
This is not on a stock port system or this is with nitrous???

Otherwise I am calling a big BS.

And Mazda's do not have "pozzie rear"s . Pozi or Pozitraction is GM's name for a Limited Slip Differential (LSD), and since there are not stock GM parts on a RX-7... well...then there is no Pozi rear end on a RX-7.

And calling a Limited Slip Differential (LSD) a Pozi, is like calling all refrigerators Kenmores.

Call it by what it is, not some brand name.

YES IT WAS EXHUAST PORTED THAT IS WHAT I MENT TO SAY :D

Stanello 09-14-05 01:50 PM

:bsflag:

SidewaysFC 09-14-05 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by rx7kid4ever
ok!!!!! you guys cant be for real you mean to tell me nobody here has built a rx7 to run high 12.90 low 13.20 with out nittros or turbo give it a break because here in the bronx we do it all the time... see the differnce is you guys must go by the book we dont go by the book.. you act like 12.90 is fast for an rx7 are you kidding me or what you dont always need turbo or nittros to go fast.. no need to dabait it your wright lol lol lol you guys should be driving a ford or camro sound like more you speed there the only cars that can break 12.90 or 13sec lol give it a break
O AND YOUR RIGHT IT WAS NOT POSSIE IT WAS LSD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL I KNOW MY CAR BOTH TIRES ALWAYS SPUN NO MATTER WHAT 360 180 SIDE WAYS STAND STILL DUMPING THE CLUTCH AT 8000 FOWARD REVERSE YOU NAME IT

Did you go to grammar school?

Sideways7 09-14-05 02:14 PM

Is it peripheral ported or something? Otherwise I dont think you can make the power needed for those times with an NA engine.
Or are you talking 1/8 mile times, because I could believe that.

rx7kid4ever 09-14-05 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by White87FC
Until you list all mods besides porting of the exaust port you get...


:bsflag:

BRAND NEW HOUSINGS BRAND NEW INTERMEDITA PLATES 85 GLS SE ROTORS 94 CORNER SPRINGS AND SIDE SEALS 2 PEACE APEX SEALS 2MM ALSO IT WAS A FRESH REBUILT MOTOR... AN 83 TRANNY 4 PUCK ACT CLUTCH WALBRO FUEL PUMP WITH AN 327 TURBO 2 COMPUTER.. NO SMOG WHAT SO EVER EVERYTHING WAS OFF THE MOTOR.. IT WAS A 4 LUG NOT FIVE LUG SO IT WAS LITER. M.A.F WAS WORKED ON BY SHORTY MAZDA FOR MAX INRICHMENT RACING BEAT HEADER APEXI N1 JACOBS IGNITION APEXI SAFC CONTROL

RacerXtreme7 09-14-05 02:39 PM

Raising the BS flag also
 
WOW, the more you post the more ignorant you sound and the less believable your claims. Not to mention the dialect YO.




Originally Posted by rx7kid4ever
BRAND NEW HOUSINGS BRAND NEW INTERMEDITA PLATES 85 GLS SE ROTORS 94 CORNER SPRINGS AND SIDE SEALS 2 PEACE APEX SEALS 2MM ALSO IT WAS A FRESH REBUILT MOTOR... AN 83 TRANNY 4 PUCK ACT CLUTCH WALBRO FUEL PUMP WITH AN 327 TURBO 2 COMPUTER.. NO SMOG WHAT SO EVER EVERYTHING WAS OFF THE MOTOR.. IT WAS A 4 LUG NOT FIVE LUG SO IT WAS LITER. M.A.F WAS WORKED ON BY SHORTY MAZDA FOR MAX INRICHMENT RACING BEAT HEADER APEXI N1 JACOBS IGNITION APEXI SAFC CONTROL

Its ENRICHMENT, and running pig rich ("MAX INRICHMENT") will decrease power, not make more.

Also, running the 85 GSL SE rotors will DECREASE power over 86-88 and make even less then the higher compression and lighter 89-91 rotors.

AND GSL SE ROTORS USE 3mm APEX SEALS FOOL, NOT 2MM. So your “94 corner seals and 2mm 2 piece apex seals" would NOT work.

Stop with the buzz words and if your going to bullshit us, at least learn a little more before you try to fool us as to you knowing what the hell your talking about.

I called your BS, and your busted!


~Mike............

RockLobster 09-14-05 02:44 PM

12.9 must be the 0-60 time.

jkimbro 09-14-05 03:03 PM

:bsmeter:

12.9 @ 118....wow, must have been taking off on ice too.... 1/2 second and 16mph faster than mine. :)

Dinnercoat 09-14-05 03:14 PM

I thought trolls mostly bred on Honda forums cos it is blatant thats what this guy is.

RockLobster: you have an awesome username.

Icemark 09-14-05 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by rx7kid4ever
WITH AN 327 TURBO 2 COMPUTER.. NO SMOG WHAT SO EVER EVERYTHING WAS OFF THE MOTOR.. IT WAS A 4 LUG NOT FIVE LUG SO IT WAS LITER. M.A.F WAS WORKED ON BY SHORTY MAZDA FOR MAX INRICHMENT RACING BEAT HEADER APEXI N1 JACOBS IGNITION APEXI SAFC CONTROL

The N327 is a non turbo computer for a 87.5-88 non turbo 13B.

The N327 already runs way way rich, so if the AFM was tinkered to further enrich would mean that you are turning the SAFC way way way down.

I still am calling BS. To many of your things don't add up.

you should have just said nitrous... I might have belived that.

remember 1/4 mile times are on a track, not using your G-force plug in dash/windsheild mounted box.

josh greene 09-14-05 03:29 PM

damn if I knew I could have put that little bit of work and money into my N/A and got into the 12's I wouldnt have sold it and dumped a shit load of money into buying a TII, engine rebuild/porting, 3"exhaust, bigger fuel injector and FMIC to only get in the 13's!!!!!! IM SO STUPID!!!!!!
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

jkimbro 09-14-05 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by josh greene
damn if I knew I could have put that little bit of work and money into my N/A and got into the 12's I wouldnt have sold it and dumped a shit load of money into buying a TII, engine rebuild/porting, 3"exhaust, bigger fuel injector and FMIC to only get in the 13's!!!!!! IM SO STUPID!!!!!!
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL


wow, kinda makes my time look okay. I haven't done most of that. ;)

rx7kid4ever 09-14-05 04:56 PM

[QUOTE=White87FC]:bsflag:[/QUOTE
http://thumbs.streetfire.net/D03E3D7...476810FD35.jpgClick here to see Video

this is of my slower rx7 just for the bs sign let me know when you want race for all the bullshit

adrock3217 09-14-05 05:15 PM

Uh, sorry to burst you're bubble, but any car so do donuts. Or burnouts. Or do fly-bys. Or do any of the worthless crap that was in that movie. Question - do you suck at life? Seriously, don't be shy. OMG, I BET MY DONUT IS FASTER THAN YOU'RE DONUT! OMGZZ. Oh yeah. I'll race you.

josh greene 09-14-05 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by jkimbro
wow, kinda makes my time look okay. I haven't done most of that. ;)

LOL. I havnt been to the track yet(have to replace engine harness) but some one with just a 3"exhaust 720 secondarys and a Rtek chip ran a 13.8 so I know im in at least the 13's also Iv beet a couple slightly moded SRT4's.

kontakt 09-14-05 05:48 PM

now.. I know that's your "slower" car... but watchin the tach and speedo seemed to move at the exact same rate my STOCK '88 SE does. and it looks like you have to pull off the side of tht parking lot onto the loose stuff to get that started. You almost hit that wall a few times (asshole), but I'm sure that was intentional to show off your mad tyte skillz yo. The only N/A 7 I know in the 12's or lower has a chevy V8 swapped in.

Icemark 09-14-05 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by kontakt
The only N/A 7 I know in the 12's or lower has a chevy V8 swapped in.

Maybe he means 12's in 0-60 not 1/4 mile.

josh greene 09-14-05 08:29 PM

maybe 1/8th mile????

Andrew. 09-14-05 08:32 PM

Worthless thread, your car has not, and never will run 12's with the mods you say you have, You made a video of your slow cars acceleration- make it of your "fast" car, wait let me guess the video camera broke, or battery's are dead :rolleyes:

Edit- Time to own you
Posted in this thread

Originally Posted by rx7kid4ever
JACOBS IGNITION


Posted today

Originally Posted by rx7kid4ever
why is it the leading coil is the only one that matters??? is it better to put a msd box on each coil and should you put a msd coil instead of the stock coils???? i am about to do this to my car any help would be great... also i thought jacobs was the best for the sec gen. does the msd or jacobs up grade realy make a big differnce if so were do you feal it more?

Wow you got a jacobs that fast and installed it, by the looks of the post you don't even know how to install it.

This thread

Originally Posted by rx7kid4ever
NO SMOG WHAT SO EVER EVERYTHING WAS OFF THE MOTOR..

posted yesterday

Originally Posted by rx7kid4ever
my next step is to strip everything off of it... no smog what so ever just air and fuel... on this setup by removing the sleavs will it hurt anything other than loseing low end and gaining top end...if you can let me know what is good for this motor...please do

You sure don't have smog here :rolleyes:

Finish you off now
1 month ago

Originally Posted by rx7kid4ever
listen you dont need turbo to make the car fast trust me on that there are a lot of tricks you can do to that motor if you can see in the pic there is a lot of stuff missing in my motor and this all stuff you can do to make your car faster and i would bet on thathttp://memimage.cardomain.net/member.../2071802_3.jpg

Wheres the Jacobs? Blue outside, hmm just like your "S5" huh? Body conversion no doubt. You might have recently aquired a s5 from your posts but its doubtful that its the same color and a 7k redline in the video and s4 cluster? Oh yah all s5 NA's had that

rx7kid4ever 09-14-05 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by kontakt
now.. I know that's your "slower" car... but watchin the tach and speedo seemed to move at the exact same rate my STOCK '88 SE does. and it looks like you have to pull off the side of tht parking lot onto the loose stuff to get that started. You almost hit that wall a few times (asshole), but I'm sure that was intentional to show off your mad tyte skillz yo. The only N/A 7 I know in the 12's or lower has a chevy V8 swapped in.

again you shuold all be on chevy site the way you sweet there balls what kind of rx7 people are you only a chevy v8 can do that are f--- nuts or what.. thats a 3.90 rear one leger so you have to work to get both tires to spin.. you people might as well go to small block possie.net because you have no faith in rx7..thats like the kid who is dead now buger who drove an every day civic and broke 10.20 at the track it was a every day car but i quess that did not happen either :spank: :spank: :spank: :uzi: :uzi: :uzi:

josh greene 09-14-05 08:49 PM

Is it just me or does he make no sense at all????

Give us all your mods!!!!
no one is saying its not possable to get into the 12's with a N/A just not with what mods you have said you have.

WOW andrewdruiz you just bitch slaped him!!!!LOL
DUD you dont have to lie people on here for the most part are cool and will help ALOT I have asked alot of questions over the years.

rx7kid4ever 09-14-05 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by andrewdruiz
Worthless thread, your car has not, and never will run 12's with the mods you say you have, You made a video of your slow cars acceleration- make it of your "fast" car, wait let me guess the video camera broke, or battery's are dead :rolleyes:

Edit- Time to own you
Posted in this thread



Posted today


Wow you got a jacobs that fast and installed it, by the looks of the post you don't even know how to install it.

This thread


posted yesterday

You sure don't have smog here :rolleyes:

Finish you off now
1 month ago


Wheres the Jacobs? Blue outside, hmm just like your "S5" huh? Body conversion no doubt. You might have recently aquired a s5 from your posts but its doubtful that its the same color and a 7k redline in the video and s4 cluster? Oh yah all s5 NA's had that

if you read just what you posted that is not the car. that is the old car thats an 86 not an 87 also if you look good that is a five lug not a four lug bit i guess you did not look that hard and yes i do have an 90 gxl red.. and for information i ask ? all the time because i want to see what other people think or maybe have a better way of doing it you wont understand that!!!!!!!!!!!!!and yes my 87 had a jacobs on it and everything else. either way who cares what you think keep driving your slow sorry ass rx7 along with everbody else who doubts me like i said we will met at the track and see what happens in till then fuck it :rlaugh:

rx7kid4ever 09-14-05 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by josh greene
Is it just me or does he make no sense at all????

Give us all your mods!!!!
no one is saying its not possable to get into the 12's with a N/A just not with what mods you have said you have.

WOW andrewdruiz you just bitch slaped him!!!!LOL
DUD you dont have to lie people on here for the most part are cool and will help ALOT I have asked alot of questions over the years.

why cause you did not do it???????????????? is that how it works where your from if you your self dont do it nobody else can :rlaugh: :rlaugh: :rlaugh: come on

drft_180sx 09-14-05 09:52 PM

hey, im from the bronx too bro. i have a 12.34 sec N/A rx7 too. my crankshaft balancing and piston micropolisiong really did it. oh and don't forget about the higher profile cams. hopefully i'll see you around....




































so i can slap the shit out of you for abusing your rx.

Andrew. 09-14-05 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by rx7kid4ever
if you read just what you posted that is not the car. that is the old car thats an 86 not an 87 also if you look good that is a five lug not a four lug bit i guess you did not look that hard and yes i do have an 90 gxl red.. and for information i ask ? all the time because i want to see what other people think or maybe have a better way of doing it you wont understand that!!!!!!!!!!!!!and yes my 87 had a jacobs on it and everything else. either way who cares what you think keep driving your slow sorry ass rx7 along with everbody else who doubts me like i said we will met at the track and see what happens in till then fuck it :rlaugh:

You do know you posted the smog stuff and jacobs today and yesterday? So you sold your car that quick, wow. Lets hear the excuse now. What about Videos? Slow ass rx7? Mine? Hah- yep one of the slowest NA's all around

-Andrew

rx7kid4ever 09-14-05 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by drft_180sx
hey, im from the bronx too bro. i have a 12.34 sec N/A rx7 too. my crankshaft balancing and piston micropolisiong really did it. oh and don't forget about the higher profile cams. hopefully i'll see you around....















































so i can slap the shit out of you for abusing your rx.

wtf are talking about??????????????????

rx7kid4ever 09-14-05 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by andrewdruiz
You do know you posted the smog stuff and jacobs today and yesterday? So you sold your car that quick, wow. Lets hear the excuse now. What about Videos? Slow ass rx7? Mine? Hah- yep one of the slowest NA's all around

-Andrew

yes i do no can a person not ask a ? about something to see what people say

kontakt 09-14-05 10:36 PM

you're an inspiration for birth control. scan a timeslip, dyno sheet, your social security card, ya know... anything useful

Icemark 09-14-05 10:47 PM

okay, I think this thread is done.

Let face it rx7kid4ever, you will get caught if you lie here.

Thread closed: its not going anywhere or helping anyone anymore.


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