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WANNABAIFC Mar 24, 2008 10:22 PM

vert diff same as tII
 
I heard that my vert's diff is the same as the TII diff, Is that true? I searched, but to no avail.
Thanks

RETed Mar 24, 2008 10:25 PM

Is your vert turbo from the factory?
Did someone swap out your rear for a turbo diff?
If not, NO.


-Ted

JustJeff Mar 24, 2008 10:35 PM

What Ted said is right.

I've got JDM 13B swapped into my vert. I did a full swap by getting a driveshaft, diff and half shafts. Actually I think the vert has the worst gear ratios of all the differentials

Shainiac Mar 25, 2008 12:55 AM

^Yup. The vert came with the NA diff and the 3.9 ring and pinion from the automatic cars.
The TII rear end is a 4.1 gear ratio.

Icemark Mar 25, 2008 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by Shainiac (Post 8016210)
^Yup. The vert came with the NA diff and the 3.9 ring and pinion from the automatic cars.
The TII rear end is a 4.1 gear ratio.

Only the 88 vert came with the 3.9 all the other year verts including the automatic came with the 4.1...

And the Turbo uses a 8 inch ring gear, while the vert uses the same size 7 inch ring gear that all the non turbo coupes did.

Andrizzanizz Mar 25, 2008 11:56 PM

yeh alot of people have the confusion that all verts came with the 3.9,
but when i did my auto> 5 speed swap using a turbo driveline i saw that they were the same.

marshall13B Mar 26, 2008 01:16 AM

so how would one tell just by looking at it; what they have? I have a vert, but im not sure, i would like to know more about differentials because those and clutches were some of the only things i knew nothing about. i installed my clutch and everything and now i know plenty. still no knowelage in the diff.

Shainiac Mar 26, 2008 01:46 AM


Originally Posted by Icemark (Post 8016895)
Only the 88 vert came with the 3.9 all the other year verts including the automatic came with the 4.1...

And the Turbo uses a 8 inch ring gear, while the vert uses the same size 7 inch ring gear that all the non turbo coupes did.

Opps, thanks for clearing up my misinformation Icemark.

Andrizzanizz Mar 26, 2008 10:20 AM

marshall 13b-if your vert is not an 88 then you have a 4.10 rear end. the only thing is that it isnt limited slip.

JustJeff Mar 26, 2008 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by Shainiac (Post 8020758)
Opps, thanks for clearing up my misinformation Icemark.

+1 for Icemark clearning things up

marshall13B Jul 29, 2008 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by Andrizzanizz (Post 8021524)
marshall 13b-if your vert is not an 88 then you have a 4.10 rear end. the only thing is that it isnt limited slip.

It is an 88, however I have no idea whats really under there, from what I understand, the car has a rebuilt title, and I also know the motor was replaced. So that just leads me to beleive that its very probable that the tranny and dif have been replaced...

So I put my car up on jacks, put it in first gear (so now the rear wheels are free rolling) and I was able to grab the drivers side wheel and the passanger stopped. So that means no lsd right?

Icemark Jul 29, 2008 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by marshall13B (Post 8421861)
It is an 88, however I have no idea whats really under there, from what I understand, the car has a rebuilt title, and I also know the motor was replaced. So that just leads me to beleive that its very probable that the tranny and dif have been replaced...

So I put my car up on jacks, put it in first gear (so now the rear wheels are free rolling) and I was able to grab the drivers side wheel and the passanger stopped. So that means no lsd right?

Turn the wheel.

If the other wheel goes the opposite direction, it is a Open Diff (or worn out LSD).

throughthewire Jul 29, 2008 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by Icemark (Post 8016895)
Only the 88 vert came with the 3.9 all the other year verts including the automatic came with the 4.1...

I did not know that. I have an 88 'Vert - I guess I'll add a diff swap (might as well go LSD while I'm at it) to my list of intended mods.

If I swap the diff for one with a different ratio, won't the speedometer be (more) incorrect? What do I do about that?

RETed Jul 30, 2008 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by throughthewire (Post 8422724)
If I swap the diff for one with a different ratio, won't the speedometer be (more) incorrect?

Yes.


What do I do about that?
1) Get the right speedo gear that goes into the trans.
2) Take it to a trans shop that can take care of this job.
3) Don't do it.


-Ted

throughthewire Jul 30, 2008 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by RETed (Post 8424611)
1) Get the right speedo gear that goes into the trans.

That's basically my question—if I need to change only the driven gear/speedometer gear housing (easy!), or if I need to also change the gear on the output shaft itself.

I have a transmission on my workbench right now that I'll be swapping into my 'Vert in a week or so, so if I need to do something internal to the tranny, now would be the time.

I have searched, by the way—both on the forum and the general web, and the best info I found was on a Miata site. He had links to RX-7-specific pages, but they were all dead.

Plenty of posts talk about swapping trannies, gears, GTUs rear-ends, etc. on this forum, but almost none discuss proper speedo gear swaps for quasi-accurate speed. I daily-drive my 'Vert, so I'd like to have mine reasonably accurate.


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