Turbo II..to much
 

Hey guys, ive been shopping around for an FD (yes, ive been doing my research :) ), but couldn't find a nice reasonably priced one in my area.

I was giving up hope when I came across a very clean turbo II. Its an 87 w/75K miles, one owner. Its got a brand new paintjob. New tires (less than 200miles), upgraded feul injectors, MBC, RB exhaust, racing clutch and a bunch of other stuff.
The shop that did all the work is Lowes (sp?) Automotive in Sarasota, FL.

Anyway here are some pics.
http://gallery.thevboard.com/users/Lawerence/front.jpg
http://gallery.thevboard.com/users/L...ce/34front.jpg
http://gallery.thevboard.com/users/Lawerence/34back.jpg
http://gallery.thevboard.com/users/Lawerence/zumzum.jpg
http://gallery.thevboard.com/users/Lawerence/RBexh.jpg

So i posted these on my usual MSG boards and people were telling me that its not a real turbo II because it doesnt have round taillights?:confused:
I have the vin # too, but dont have carfax to check it out :(

When I was speaking with the owner of the shop he said that a different car with all the same mods ran a 13.5 (i dont really care about speed, but im just posting what he said). Do you guys think that is in line with the mods I listed?
Also is there anything to know about the 87 model year? (like was there a problem that was fixed for the 88 or 89 year?)

And last, how much would you pay for this? (all the work just got done and it has a fresh coat of paint)

Thanks!

KBB shows the private party value ~$2860.
13.5? Maybe with some weight reduction..

You should ask why the owner is giving up on it.
EG: What repairs does he think it will be needing this year?

Cool tag..

The 87-88 turbos didn't have the round taillights, only the 89+ have those.

I don't think the car will run that fast with the mods listed...

Check the fuel pulsation damper asap, those were known to leak fuel on the S4's.

$6000 is nice S5 territory, so I wouldn't want to pay much more than $4000-$4500 or so for that one.

Just my opinion, it looks like a very nice car, though.

Thanks alot guys!
I thought the taillights were a model year thing.

Well it was his brothers car and his brother died. He already has 4-5 other sports cars so he doesnt need another one :)

and I was thinking about offering him 4K and going up to 5 max. But people were telling me 5 is too much

Got to say the KBB will go out the window on this car. With with mods listed and if a turbo back RB exhaust, 13.5 very achievable. Yes there were Turbo II's in '87 & '88. The round tailights came with the '89's. Price tag I would venture a guess @ $5000 if everthing is a nice as the car looks. Be cautious though, looks can be deceiving. That paint job could be a $300 enamel job. Check all receipts.

Thats a good looking TII. Deffinitely fetch a pretty penny. Wouldn't pay any more than 4500 assuming everything is in working order.

Re: Turbo II..to much
 

Maybe you should go to different message boards? lol

VIN Info (USA):

J = Japanese Manufacturer
M = Mazda
1 = Passenger Car
F = RX-7
C = 2nd Generation RX-7
3 = North American Export Version
3 = Coupe, 5 = Convertible
1 = NA, 2 = TurboII
? = Various Check Digit
H = Model Year 1987 (I = Not Used, J = 88, K = 89, L = 90, M = 91, N = 92)
0 = Hiroshima Factory Code
?????? = 6-Digit Serial Number

Mike Lowe achieved the highest score in the nation on the ASE master certification exam.
http://www.newscoast.com/apps/pbcs.d...311100633/1200

Mine did 13.6-13.8 (good driver vs. ok driver, lol) with similar mods, so it sounds right on the money to me.

It was pretty much the same thing as the 88, so there isn't anything to worry about other than the usual problems (driveshaft binding, pulsation damper leaking, grounding problems, etc.), as far as I know. All of the 87 models had the low impedance injectors, so keep that in mind if you plan to work on the fuel system. See Injector Information here:
http://www.rotaryresurrection.com/

That depends a lot on the engine, brakes, and other components of the car. The new paint and tires are nice. If everything looks good, I would say that $4K is a reasonable price. If you buy the car, please put the wheels on in the correct direction. ;)

I don't remember on my TII, but I know on the 86-88 GXL wheels, they were marked for the fans to be going that way, instead of what looked right, to me..

shit if you dont get it i would like to check it out...
TwEaK

what the hell are you talking about ...

the rb exhuast adds 59 hp by itself (if its the full turbo back)

that car should be pretty damn quick .. and with a few more mods will be very quick ... no fd , but still very quick

to the original poster, i say snatch it ... thats car looks pristine .. the paint is real nice .... maybe 3500??

snatch it up mang ... you'll enjoy it

Get that thing up on a lift. Check out the undercarraige. Your driver's side front bumper is missing it's little vent like thing. I would venture to guess it might be jammed up into the car, check out what other damage has been sustained on the front drivers side to the underside of the car.

--Fritz

Yes, the GXL/GTU wheels run in the opposite direction from the TII wheels. Correct wheel pics shown here:
http://www.mazdamark.com/about_the_fc.htm

Ok guys I went and looked at it.
We went for a nice test drive. The car pulls very nice and hard. Suspension feels tight.
The brakes are brand new as is the clutch/AC (upgraded from R32), and multiple other things.

Assuming that everything checks out on carfax, I am going to buy the car tommorow :)

I love it!!!!11!!

Oh a more complete list of mods:
RB exhaust
MBC (A pillar boost and air/fuel gage)
720cc injectors
Custom tuning by Mike Lowe
Racing Clutch
Braided brake lines (and replaced all plastic piping in the engine bay)
K&N air filter
Dunlup tires (forgot the paticular type)

let me say again....I LOVE this car :)

Oh and the wheels were sanded down with 1500 grit and polished.

But what is wrong with the wheels?

I had a chance to run my old TII stripped of AC, PS, , cone filter, no heater, wipers, radio, spare, antenna, airpump, no emissions. For further weight reduction it had 2 stock spares up front and 300ZX wheels on the rear, no pass seat (for drags) and a smaller battery. The car weighed in at 2450lbs, that is 350-400lbs lighter than a stock TII.


http://community.webshots.com/photo/...56934222aRdVKl

More:

http://community.webshots.com/album/29829335dZcQQoISEZ

Performance mods were straight pipe 3" exhaust, 17lb steel flywheel, ACT clutch, cone filter, MBC running 9psi.

Funny after about 10 runs the best run was 13.425 @ 105.5 mph with a 1.968 60' time. I don't see how a car without any weight reduction is gonna run a 13.5.

Anyway make sure that the paint job isn't just shiny, but actually used good quality paint.

The wheels are on the wrong side. The vanes in the wheels are to facing the opposit direction. Meaning switch driver's side to pass. side. If the tires are directional, a lot of work to remount and balance.

Looks mint!!! makes me miss my FC

meh, if its that much work then i'll just let the wheels be on the wrong side untill I get new tires...which wont be for a while :)
Thanks alot for the answers and comments guys. You have been invaluable.

I'll make a new thread with some better pics once i get it all cleaned up and detailed.

My 88 TII did 13.6 with a good driver, and 13.8 with an OK driver. I think that should give you a clue. ;)

Perf mods on my old TII:
CFDF Clutch
HKS Intake
RB FCD
RB MBC
Custom Dual Catback with No Mufflers
No Weight Reduction Whatsoever
Wheels put on the correct way, j/k :p:
http://www.mrccfl.com/images/2ndgen1.jpg

In case you guys are wondering about the lack of fuel mods, yes, the previous owner blew the engine twice, which is why I left the MBC disconnected when I owned the car. No more 13's, but I don't drag race, and would rather drive the car for more than 14 seconds before the engine blows. ;)

There's a perfectly reasonable explanation for this.

In your profile you list your location as Oregon... just how many feet above sea level do you live?

About a month ago, my '88 TII with 149K on the original engine and clutch ran a 14.5 with an intake and gutted pre-cat, stock exhaust, blown rear shocks at Darlington, SC. Darlington might be a hundred feet above sea level, like any point in FL. Air temp was also a factor since it was in the low 40's that night. Denser air=more power even in forced induction applications.

So a 13.5 on those mods is more than reasonable given that FL can run dragstrips almost year round and is just above sea level.

if I didn't have a busted rear suspension and could
actually launch I could have pulled a 13.3/13.4 in my car with the 105.6 mph trap speed...stock turbo, ecu, IC

That car is easily worth 5000

I sold my TurboII with 133k, new paint, stock for $3400. It looked mint, similar to your car, but wayyy more miles and no perf. mods

edit:: oops you are actually looking to buy

unless you are set on a S5 (some people are, its stupid) Id say this is one of the nicest FCs Ive seen

Maybe we should include outside air temp since it makes so much difference. It was in the mid 70s.

So what was your '60 time? I think I didn't get the best 60' out there but sub 2.0 isn't bad. I think that is an indication of a good driver ;).

You also didn't quote boost levels;).

i'd offer him $3500, and then go up to 4k max, 5k is way to much in my opinion... you can find a stock S5 TII in good cond. for that much...

With 75k and mods? I wouldnt think so