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AlexG13B Jan 24, 2009 05:02 PM

tein basic coilovers
 
anyone here still using them? i have a set and am wondering about clearance problems. im running stock 16 wheels and the spring is rubbign againt the rim on both sides, i had to get longer studs and a 7mm spacer. am wondering if its only my particular set or common among the older basic sets.

BASTARD Jan 24, 2009 05:34 PM

what wheels and offsets are they?

87 t-66 Jan 24, 2009 06:01 PM

stock s5 t2 wheels

Circuit Theory Jan 24, 2009 06:25 PM

how much camber are you running? And is it really the wheel that is rubbing or the tire? I have never has any issues with them aside from if I ran full camber.
If you have any pics that might help also as the springs may have been changed by the previous owner if you bought them used.

AlexG13B Jan 24, 2009 06:26 PM

^ yup thanx. stock tire size as welll 205/55r16

Circuit Theory Jan 24, 2009 06:43 PM

So are you running full camber? If so I would take some camber out and it should fix the issue. 205's rubbing WOW something seems odd for sure.

AlexG13B Jan 24, 2009 06:45 PM

no i have the camber on positive right on the zero, and it was rubbing right on rim edge. if i raised it it would rub again the tire. and its with the spring. i just put on 225/50r16 tires and it BARELY clears with a 7mm spacer.

AlexG13B Jan 25, 2009 07:52 AM

http://s187.photobucket.com/albums/x...ii/Suspension/

AlexG13B Jan 25, 2009 07:59 PM

circuit theoryseems to think the springs are backwards (front goes on rear, rears go on front)

Circuit Theory Jan 25, 2009 08:48 PM

Did you get a chance to flip them around yet?

AlexG13B Jan 25, 2009 08:50 PM

no not exactly sure how to remove the springs w/o messing up the struts. i wanna make sure its that for sure before i attempt to do it.

Circuit Theory Jan 25, 2009 08:55 PM

you just need an impact gun and remove the top mounts. You should lower the perches as far as they need to go in order to free up any tensionin the spring but other than that all yo do is whip off that top bolt and swap the springs.

If you look at the pics in your photobucket you can see that the front suspension is sitting higher than the rear.

If it helps I will tell you for sure your springs need to be swapped from front to back.

Good luck!

Black91n/a Jan 25, 2009 08:57 PM

If you've installed it like its pictured with the front springs all the way lowered, that's probably a big part of the reason it rubs. You'd be better off raising it up a bit, raising the car at the same time, or getting shorter springs. The springs are probably marked, so if you read them, you'll be able to tell which ones are which before taking it all apart and figuring out that it may be the right way around in the first place.

Hypertek Jan 25, 2009 08:59 PM

if you got a impact gun you can just hit the top nut..

did you buy them used? i suppose you did.

The springs should be right unless someone mickeymoused em.. the spring lengths in the pictures does look a lil funky. Front spring rate should be stiffer than the rears.

AlexG13B Jan 25, 2009 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by Circuit Theory (Post 8910457)
you just need an impact gun and remove the top mounts. You should lower the perches as far as they need to go in order to free up any tensionin the spring but other than that all yo do is whip off that top bolt and swap the springs.

If you look at the pics in your photobucket you can see that the front suspension is sitting higher than the rear.

If it helps I will tell you for sure your springs need to be swapped from front to back.

Good luck!

o so u dont need to compress anything when removing the springs? the fronts and rears look kinda the same to me, but im new to this coilover thing so im not sure.


Originally Posted by Black91n/a (Post 8910465)
If you've installed it like its pictured with the front springs all the way lowered, that's probably a big part of the reason it rubs. You'd be better off raising it up a bit, raising the car at the same time, or getting shorter springs. The springs are probably marked, so if you read them, you'll be able to tell which ones are which before taking it all apart and figuring out that it may be the right way around in the first place.

y would it matter which way its installed?(not being funny im just curious since i didnt know it would matter) i think i did install it lowered that way cause i could adjust them off the car.

Originally Posted by Hypertek (Post 8910474)
if you got a impact gun you can just hit the top nut..

did you buy them used? i suppose you did.

The springs should be right unless someone mickeymoused em.. the spring lengths in the pictures does look a lil funky. Front spring rate should be stiffer than the rears.

yes i bought them used,3rd owner as far as i know,previous owner ran 17s with a spacer and slammed just like in the pics.

AlexG13B Jan 28, 2009 10:39 AM

rear springs look right for the strut, wonder if its maybe upgraded springs in the frnt?
anyone know the factory spring rates tein shipped this with?

TechTrix Jan 28, 2009 01:47 PM

try to loosen the two bolts that hold the bottom of the shock to the spindle, pull it out like your trying to get positive camber (top of the wheel away from the car) and hold it there while you tighten the bolts down. that should solve your problem. then you can adjust camber from the top camber plate

AlexG13B Jan 28, 2009 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by TechTrix (Post 8918754)
try to loosen the two bolts that hold the bottom of the shock to the spindle, pull it out like your trying to get positive camber (top of the wheel away from the car) and hold it there while you tighten the bolts down. that should solve your problem. then you can adjust camber from the top camber plate

Ya I have tried that already, and still did it. Thinking at one time maybe someone upgraded the front springs?

SpooledupRacing Jan 28, 2009 02:07 PM

get that shit fixed yo... wish I could help.. are the springs labeled.

AlexG13B Jan 28, 2009 02:16 PM

dont think they are labeled.

Circuit Theory Jan 28, 2009 08:12 PM

THE SPRINGS ARE REVERSED! hahaha I dont know why you are avoiding simply swapping the front to back and back to front but you dont seem to want to do it for some reason. Even in the photobucket pics the front of you car is higher than the rear and the shocks are almost maxed out to the bottom.

Whomever sold you the coilovers removed the springs to clean everything up a bit and when he put them back together he did not know what was front adn what was rear. Simple mistake and simple fix. I will be shocked if I am wrong on this one.

AlexG13B Jan 29, 2009 07:51 PM

installed pics
 
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hopefully u guys can see this, sorry bout crappy cell phone pics

AlexG13B Jan 29, 2009 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by Circuit Theory (Post 8919887)
THE SPRINGS ARE REVERSED! hahaha I dont know why you are avoiding simply swapping the front to back and back to front but you dont seem to want to do it for some reason. Even in the photobucket pics the front of you car is higher than the rear and the shocks are almost maxed out to the bottom.

Whomever sold you the coilovers removed the springs to clean everything up a bit and when he put them back together he did not know what was front adn what was rear. Simple mistake and simple fix. I will be shocked if I am wrong on this one.

I wanna believe u man! But the spring in the rear looks like it belongs there, wonderinf if maybehe replaced the front springs?

AlexG13B Jan 31, 2009 06:04 AM

What do u think?

AlexG13B Jan 31, 2009 06:58 PM

anyone has dimensions on springs so i can measure my front ones?


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