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FC3S_nataku Mar 13, 2005 10:04 PM

solid!!!
 
hey im going to put a new motor in my 7 soon and i was wondering if i should get solid motor and tranny mounts? is it worth it? how much will i lose in ride comfort? thanks Gabe

ddub Mar 13, 2005 10:14 PM

I have them. Only difference I noticed was in 5th gear or above 55mph. You get some serious vibration at 55+ but I live with it.

BlaCkPlaGUE Mar 13, 2005 10:26 PM

If its a daily driver, and you want comfort, stick with the stock ones.

ddub Mar 13, 2005 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by BlaCkPlaGUE
If its a daily driver, and you want comfort, stick with the stock ones.

Eh, I think more people think it's a big deal than it really is. I daily drive mine, it's no big deal. If you do the majority of your daily driving in the city you'll never notice it. I never notice a difference until 55+ mph or 5th gear.

RotaryEvolution Mar 13, 2005 10:43 PM

why not just get poly mounts?

they are a ton stiffer than the stock mounts and obviously not as stiff as solid mounts... :p:

beamer242 Mar 13, 2005 10:47 PM

yeah i have poly on my car and i love it the only vibration i get is between 1000 and 2000 rpms, and above 55mph. the only reason i get the vibration at 1000 to 2000 is cuz there is only 1000 miles on them and they havent broken in yet.

ps. i got mine from chris at banzai racing.......visit banzairacing.net and check them out.

ddub Mar 13, 2005 10:48 PM


Originally Posted by Karack
why not just get poly mounts?

they are a ton stiffer than the stock mounts and obviously not as stiff as solid mounts... :p:

I've heard of people still breaking poly ones at the drag strip, plus I got all my solid ones for WAY cheaper.

RotaryEvolution Mar 13, 2005 10:53 PM

well, solid ones can rattle things to death which is why i try to stay away from them at least for daily driven cars, they would be fine for strip cars and for weekend warriors.

Impreza2RX7 Mar 13, 2005 11:04 PM

the only vibration I noticed was through the pedals..

SmogSUX Mar 13, 2005 11:27 PM

Why would anyone go solid if it vibrates so much?

Impreza2RX7 Mar 13, 2005 11:30 PM

You dont have your drivetrain moving around as torque is applied, it stays in one straight line..

SmogSUX Mar 13, 2005 11:31 PM

So solid is more for low speed courses?

trochoid Mar 13, 2005 11:39 PM

By stiffening most anything in the car, the energy that was used to flex or twist, is now availalbe for the wheels. Doesn't make more hp, just puts it where we most want it.

Impreza2RX7 Mar 13, 2005 11:40 PM

Solid is betetr, it just depends on how much NVH you can put up with..

RotaryEvolution Mar 13, 2005 11:42 PM

NVH

*cringe*


i feel like i'm in school again....

ddub Mar 13, 2005 11:45 PM


Originally Posted by SmogSUX
Why would anyone go solid if it vibrates so much?

Less torque loss to the tires and some people don't care. I don't use the freeway much so it doesn't bother me. Like I said I only get vibration above 55mph.

RotaryEvolution Mar 13, 2005 11:52 PM

shouldn't lose any torque to the tires it just isn't as instantaneous because the drivetrain has to 'wind up', also helps prevent wheel-hop.

ddub Mar 13, 2005 11:57 PM

The wheel hop is more the solid differential mount from my experience than the motor/tranny.

Impreza2RX7 Mar 13, 2005 11:59 PM

Well, with a solidly mounted drivetrain, shifting is also more precise since the drivetrain isnt shifting slightly

RotaryEvolution Mar 14, 2005 12:02 AM


Originally Posted by dDuB
The wheel hop is more the solid differential mount from my experience than the motor/tranny.


it does help though, but most of it is in the rear end.

BlueTII Mar 14, 2005 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by dDuB
I've heard of people still breaking poly ones at the drag strip, plus I got all my solid ones for WAY cheaper.

There was only one instance of someone "breaking poly ones" at the track, and that individual didn't have any tranny mounts and he didn't actually break the mounts, only the bolts. These can easily be replaced.

buttsjim Mar 14, 2005 10:46 AM

As a compromise, how about the "engine torque brace" sold by Racing Beat? In effect, it accomplishes much the same as the solid mounts by bracing the motor against twisting from its torque. It has rubber bushings that you can adjust to help limit vibration. At about $70, it's not too expensive. On the downside, it adds clutter to the engine compartment, and it tends to get in the way when you work in the firewall area.

I'm not recommending this, I'm just throwing the idea out as a target for everyone to take pot shots at because I'd like to see your opinions.


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