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M5150 07-24-02 05:41 AM

replacement headlights (not flush)
 
has anyone replaced their headlights with those H6054s u see all over ebay? or bought some for a reasonable price (under 100 with bulbs) because im tired of my trashy stock lighting and want something a bit better

mdouble 07-24-02 05:52 AM

I was going to post a similar question, i'm sick of the shithouse lighting too. I've discovered my car has replacement headlights that take the halogen globes (i've been told the originals are sealed beam, is that true?). Anything would be better than what i've got :(

mikeric 07-24-02 08:59 AM

Which ones are you refering to on ebay? I bought some on ebay. Mine are the regular pop-up headlights, sealed beam, and brighter then crap. I have then properly aligned, but at night everyone flashes me thinking that I have my brights on. They're in for a surprise when I flash them back and blind them even more. I couldn't be happier! LOL.
The guy who sold them to me was buying a non-sealed beam setup--I got them for $30. The maker is Sillvana (I'm not sure how its spelled but you know what I mean). I don't know where to find them, but if you want, I can get you the part number.

mikeric 07-24-02 11:46 PM

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In2Deep 07-25-02 12:13 AM

Do you guys have model numbers and/or links handy?


Mario

djdizzy217 07-25-02 12:27 AM

how do i change from sealed beam to halogen lights, my stock lighting suxs also and i want brightness at nights!!! please tell me i can fix this prob!

bcty 07-25-02 12:56 AM

i did the JDM version of the Bosch H4 headlight conversion.. it looks pretty sweet with some hyper whites in there and i also picked up some fog lights and put some hyper whites in there.. really improved the light! u can pick up headlights that will take a H4 bulb at like Lordco or PepBoys im sure... :) enjoy

DCmina 07-25-02 12:59 AM

anything for the fog lights too?

downwinddave 07-25-02 01:46 AM

More light
 
I first went to Sylvania cool blue H6054 CB which were proclamed 100 % Street legal.

I also sucummed to the P"RICE" bug, and bought the "diamond cut"a H 6054 replacement from ebay, with Hyper White bulbs.

When I got them I did look at the glass lens. There is no DOT imprint. I just looked at the box, it says DLAA H4 7"...4 head light syhstem, bulb changeable, OFF-ROAD USE.

These are not street legal...the way they get more light is with a 100/90 W bulb.

More watts, more amps, same wire, more fire?????

Maybe should go back to the HP 6054...plastic body, origional equipment...less weight!

M5150 07-25-02 01:53 AM

no silvianas are good?

mikeric 07-25-02 09:04 AM

Re: More light
 

Originally posted by downwinddave
I first went to Sylvania cool blue H6054 CB which were proclamed 100 % Street legal.

I also sucummed to the P"RICE" bug, and bought the "diamond cut"a H 6054 replacement from ebay, with Hyper White bulbs.

When I got them I did look at the glass lens. There is no DOT imprint. I just looked at the box, it says DLAA H4 7"...4 head light syhstem, bulb changeable, OFF-ROAD USE.

These are not street legal...the way they get more light is with a 100/90 W bulb.

More watts, more amps, same wire, more fire?????

Maybe should go back to the HP 6054...plastic body, origional equipment...less weight!

Your first mistake was to go with the blue bulbs (can you say R-I-C-E). Everyone I know that tried those blue bulbs went back to their original setup as you can't see anything with those craps.
I'm not sure if my lights are street legal or not or even what the wattage is. My car is in the shop, but I'll stop by today and check it out.
As far as fires go. I bought mine over a year ago and drive it every night. I have never had any fires (at least that I'm aware of) and I have never even blown a fuse.
But, as I said, I'm not sure on the wattage. But they are ridiculously bright. A friend of mine who owns a Sentra says that when I drive behind him at night he can see better with the light coming under his car from my car then he can fron his own headlights.
On secon thought, my lights are probably not legal. With all of the unlit highways around here, I need them.
I'll post the wattage and possible dot number for you when I get it.

DroptopRX7 07-25-02 09:51 AM

Those lights on ebay are a clear lens that use the small cap over the bulb to reflect light back onto the chrome reflector and then out. The same principle is used on high line bulbs as well, but you get the added benefit of a fluted lens on the surface, instead of a clear plastic piece.
If you are being flashed and IF your headlights are properly aimed you are putting out to much light. If so, you are only thinking me, me, me. That is, if someone is blinded by you and rams into you, better start thinking "how do I avoid that lawsuit". Also, as a courtesy to others, you shouldn't be blinding them at night. That's just crazy!
That said, if you are thinking replacement headlights, not that plastic ebay stuff, think Hella and Cibie.
The Hella's are easier to find.
Hella makes two versions that you stick the H4 bulb in, your choice of wattage (I use a Piaa bulb). One version is DOT registered, etc. At least I think it uses an H4 bulb. Anyway, completely street legal and some people swear by it. The other version is the "off road use only" version. A great lens, used in Europe. It has an extremely brilliant cut off and slants up on the right side so as not to blind oncoming traffic(actually, I believe both versions do). Glass lens, fluted.
They run about $80 or so. Many vendors have them and you can find them on Ebay under Hella Headlights at times. Make sure though you get the right hand version as opposed to left hand (England, Japan, Commonwealth, Australia, NZ) . Youlll know the wrong lenses because they have little arrows on the lens pointed to the right! Don't get those. They crop up on ebay once in a rare while (ask me how I know!).
I have the Hella's in my car and have had either Hella or Cibie for a long time. Its the first conversion I do to a car! I found the best price at Desert Rat, the 4 wheel drive guys out of Arizona. Daniel Stern lighting gives great information, aiming details, foreign lights you don't want to buy and pricing I believe.
Ralf

mikeric 07-25-02 10:21 AM

You're right! I'm crazy for having such bright light bulbs. Unfortunately, I'm not the only one. Have you ever come across a BMW at night with the HID option? If you have ever been driving down a dark mountain road and do come across one of those, close your eyes! If you don't, you won't be able to see for the next quarter mile.
Here in my part of the world, many people have ridiculously crazy light setups--I am one of them which makes me part of the problem, not the problem itself.
You shouldn't "outdrive" your lights at night. So I have two options: a). Drive slower b). Get brigher lights. I opted for the second. Legal? I don't know yet.
As far as selfishness goes, I guess that I should put all the emmissions stuff back in my car and start using lower octane gas. Maybe I shouldn't drive as fast and start walking to work...
No offence, but everyone is a little selfish. I'm sure that the great people at Sylvania know what they are doing and wouldn't make anything too blinding (unless it's made for off road, if that is the case, I'll get back with you). I have driven my friends car and seen what my headlighst look like at night. They look ridiculously bright, but not blinding. They are very white (not blue), but they don't shine diretly in your eyes. They just look very bright which is probably what causes people to flash me.

mikeric 07-25-02 10:23 AM

As far as for lights go, my intercooler piping takes up those holes. Plus, in my opinion, they are just extra weight (for aurocrossing).

DroptopRX7 07-25-02 10:32 AM

OK, sarcasm aside, if you don't feel your lights are as bright as everyone thinks, then try aiming them. And yes, I've seen the HID setups and never been blinded by those lights...if they were aimed correctly.

If you have a professional lighting set up and not a Mickey Mouse, cheap, rice set up, then I applaud you. I don't know about the Sylvania bulbs, no experience with them. I use PiAA and Hella. Those are not cheap, but they put out a great, focused beam.
Hit the Daniel Stern Lighting page and aim your lights the way he indicates. That might actually take care of your problem right there, and possibly avoid a ticket.

If I remember, you were at Misawa? When you PCS back you'll have to watch the local cops if you don't get them adjusted properly. Check the Stern website and then check your lights, even if you feel they are adjusted properly.

As far as the last post with the intercooler taking up the space, I did not understand the reference.

DroptopRX7 07-25-02 10:33 AM

Oops, sorry, not Misawa, but Cannon AFB, right? Then, once you hit population, besides the deer and the antelope, you could get more grief, but that's just a guess, if your lights need aiming!

deadRX7Conv 07-25-02 10:48 AM

Just replace your regularly(wornout) old sealed beams with new ones. Try to get wagner standard wattage "britelite" or any other company that sells upgraded(cleaner/normal wattage) sealed beams. GE used to make an HO 6054 if you want slightly higher wattage. Visit your department/carpart stores to see the brands available. Old bulbs get weaker/yellower with time. And, lense adjustment is critical.

And, if you have Nazi cops, they have ONE less excuse to ticket you. All those high watt bulbs are RUDE, illegal, and blind other drivers.

Fog lights are useless. If you are driving in the fog, slow down. I don't care to be in another multicar sandwich because of some jackass speed demon. But, if you must, just remove the fog light bulb and purchase another wattage(multiple available). I also have received one ticket for 'fog lights on' when it wasn't foggy enough out. Haven't used them since.

How safe and reliable are the high watt bulbs in an RX7 with a 12+ year old charging system/wiring harness???

Notice the cost of a true HID(35w low beam only):
http://www.xtremewhite.com/ORD-Light...58-1-1-1-1.cfm

If you want the 'blue look'
http://store.yahoo.com/rodi/sylcoolbluha.html

Notice the lack of high beams on 6054 replacement(real HID):
http://www.sylvania.com/xenarc/prodinfo.htm

DOT approved housing(notice cost of each) and use any H4 bulb you want:
http://sportscar-parts.com/mivastore...dlamp+housings

Buy these in bulk and sell them on ebay for a profit(make tons of false claims):
http://www.procarparts.com/store/dis...d=DIAM-XENCONV
http://www.procarparts.com/store/dis...pid=convershlp

mikeric 07-25-02 11:18 AM


Originally posted by DroptopRX7
OK, sarcasm aside, if you don't feel your lights are as bright as everyone thinks, then try aiming them. And yes, I've seen the HID setups and never been blinded by those lights...if they were aimed correctly.

If you have a professional lighting set up and not a Mickey Mouse, cheap, rice set up, then I applaud you. I don't know about the Sylvania bulbs, no experience with them. I use PiAA and Hella. Those are not cheap, but they put out a great, focused beam.
Hit the Daniel Stern Lighting page and aim your lights the way he indicates. That might actually take care of your problem right there, and possibly avoid a ticket.

If I remember, you were at Misawa? When you PCS back you'll have to watch the local cops if you don't get them adjusted properly. Check the Stern website and then check your lights, even if you feel they are adjusted properly.

As far as the last post with the intercooler taking up the space, I did not understand the reference.

The intercooler part was in reference to the fog lights. I don't have space for them and I think that they are just extra weight.
I know that the bulbs I have are pretty expensive, the only reason I got them so cheap was that the guy who bought them was trying to get the blue (rice) look and was disapointed when the lights were white.
I'll look into aiming them better as responsible driving is important.
I was slightly scarcastic in my last post, but that was to drive a point home not offend anyone.

DroptopRX7 07-25-02 11:29 AM

Slightly sarcastic?...no,no,no, only kidding :)

Sounds like you're ok then except for the people giving you the brights. I get them occasionally, but I'm aimed right, so some people just have a problem. That's an aspect you can't forget, other driver's inherent problems with anything but a sealed beam pattern.

I'd still go with a better fluted housing, it makes a real difference. My Hella's are incredible and with the PIAA 80/100Watts, I get very little, really very little oncoming opposition. But the Hella's have always been very good.

As to foglights, I have the factory stock ones, but they are for appearance only. Really, the beam they put out is awful. They are really light though, so I wouldn't think weight would be that much a problem?
As for fog, I've got a rear foglight incorporated into my taillight. I got it in Germany from a Mazda dealer, new. On the front, I want to put in a decent set of PIAA's, like the 959's I have on my truck. Great beam and sturdy. BUT, I don't have a weight issue...ahh, in regard to the car :)

mikeric 07-25-02 11:33 AM

Cool!

How much do those lights cost in case I ever want to upgrade?

How good are you with other aspects of rotary tuning? I'm tired of hearing various opinions that contradict each other and I like talking to someone who (I think) has brain matter above the waist.

DroptopRX7 07-25-02 11:57 AM

If you're happy with what you have in terms of lighting, stay with it.
If you go Hella, go with the non-DOT approved. They run about $80 for the pair with bulbs. Non-DOT because those are the European ones that are really the ones you want due to their beam pattern! Remember, DOT just revamped standards from the 1930's a couple of years ago. Notice the different headlights on cars now. The Europeans have been lightyears ahead, figuratively speaking!

As for tuning, I'm really wary about information here. There are a couple of guys that really know their stuff. They also post on teamfc3s.org once in a while.

The best source where you get your questions answered correctly, from my experience, has been the yahoo groups site, that you sign up on at Dave Gibson's website: fc3s.org. Also great site itself.

The yahoo groups site is amazing, timely, accurate and without gibberish. Some of the big guns like Ted K. who posts here once in a while, Dale T. and Dale C. hang there. Immensely knowledgeable individuals!

As for questions that I need help with, like my TPS problem right now, in addtiion to the groups site, I'll discuss with a couple of other guys I know and trust off line if I want to avoid looking stupid :). I'm always learning with this stuff!

attomica 07-25-02 01:04 PM

I have purchased some of those housings off of eBay and I'm really pleased with them. The housings have a plain, clear lens and they came with some really nice Super-White type bulbs. The quantity of light they project is impressive and quite a bit more that the stock sealed beam arrangement, yet I have not been flashed by oncoming traffic even once. The housings have "DOT" molded into them. Maybe I got lucky...


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