possible to install power windows/locks on a FC?
Has anyone installed power windows and/or locks onto a non-powered window/lock FC before? I've helped a friend do it with his S13 240SX using junkyard parts from a wrecked power window/lock S13. When we removed his door pannels we found that the harnesses were already there, just had to install the window motor and the locks. Any chance it's the same for an FC? Im looking to pick up a daily driver (90-91 black FC) and would like to have power window and locks, but just about everything I find doesn't have them. Thanks.
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The harness is generally not there on cars not equipped with power windows. You would have to swap door harnesses as well.
As far as lock, the few vehicles that do have power locks american (you don't have your location listed, so I don't know if you are in america or if you are where you are) anyway most american versions (that have power locks) have what's called "follow me locks" which means there is a switch in the drivers door, but no door lock motor. There is a door lock motor on the passengers door however. So you could install the follow me locks (again after swaping door harnesses) or just use aftermarket locks which then can be hooked up with a keyless entry or security system. |
I am not sure if Icemark is right on this one
On all FC i saw were door harnesses complete (for conversion from manual to power mirrors we needed just drop in mirrors, hook them to harness and hook up power mirror controls in place between seats...) I will have to check friends manual window equipped FC, but i think it has already connectors for power window motors and switches... So far all FC stuff i have worked with was ONE type of in-car harness - car originaly equipped with manual steering had connectors for PS pump and PS computer etc.... |
Power mirrors are a little different than power windows, and yes all the US models even the base ones were prewired for power mirrors.
But pull the door panel on a 86-87 sport, or a Luxury coupe and you won't see the power window wires. Or pull the door panel on a 'vert and you won't see the power lock wires. And yes most of the main harnesses are prewired, but the door harnesses are not. |
Shouldnt the wiring for the power windows be in the car (runs under the dash), but just not in the doors?
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Originally posted by dr0x Shouldnt the wiring for the power windows be in the car (runs under the dash), but just not in the doors? |
Ah okay. I thought you were saying there should be no wiring :p:
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Originally posted by dr0x Ah okay. I thought you were saying there should be no wiring :p: |
The previous owner of my GTUs had a Valet keyless entry and a remote start however at this Moment it doesn't work. Something to do with fuses or something, I haven't looked into it because my E-brake is out so If I had that sucker in gear and hit the remote start, "chirp, there goes the only B/B GTUs Turbo w/o a driver." and that would suck so.........anyway it can be done, but I don't know how.
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Icemark, I have pulled the door panel off both of my 86 and 87 base models and they both came prewired for power windows, door locks, security system, and switches needed to operate all of them. It has like 7 open plugs and on my 87 I've confirmed that they are for all those through my shop manual's wiring harness.
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Originally posted by JAPSPECGTUs The previous owner of my GTUs had a Valet keyless entry and a remote start however at this Moment it doesn't work. Something to do with fuses or something, I haven't looked into it because my E-brake is out so If I had that sucker in gear and hit the remote start, "chirp, there goes the only B/B GTUs Turbo w/o a driver." and that would suck so.........anyway it can be done, but I don't know how. The FC has a wire that grounds when the car is not in gear. |
Originally posted by riptyde Icemark, I have pulled the door panel off both of my 86 and 87 base models and they both came prewired for power windows, door locks, security system, and switches needed to operate all of them. It has like 7 open plugs and on my 87 I've confirmed that they are for all those through my shop manual's wiring harness. Do you have power mirrors??? if so, you don't have a base. |
Originally posted by Icemark sure you have a base or that the doors are the original doors? Do you have power mirrors??? if so, you don't have a base. |
Originally posted by riptyde It didn't have power mirrors or a sunroof. The only option it had on it was power steering. 4 lug steel wheels? The base came standard with those. Or perhaps the car has had the doors replaced or other body work done. |
I has the 4 lug 14in. polished phone dial wheels. There is no way for me to know if the doors have been changed or not. If it's not the base model, then what model would it be?
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Polished phone dial wheels only came on the 88 model SE which did come with power steering.
either you don't really have an 87 or someone switched VIN plates |
Originally posted by Icemark Polished phone dial wheels only came on the 88 model SE which did come with power steering. either you don't really have an 87 or someone switched VIN plates |
Originally posted by riptyde I have an 87 because the vin plates match the firewall vin number and they say Jan. of 87. Another reason why an 87 is because it has low impedence injectors. http://www.iluvmyrx7.com/2ndgen/manu...rochure-29.jpg sounds to me like you have a non stock modified car... |
Oh well. All I now is that both rx-7s that I have owned came wired for power windows and door locks. Also, every care a the the junkyard I've seen has those wires. They just need the motors and switchs to get the power to them.
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well I think there are a couple of other threads just this weekend, with people complaining that theirs do not have the wiring and asking how to wire power wins in.
I guess you got lucky (or unlucky since copper is pretty heavy). |
My '86 Base had the wire harness in the door for the power accessories.
Yes, it was Base model True Red (orangish red) no power anything! no sunroof no storage bins unpolished phone dials aluminum hood etc. From Indianopolis Speedway Mazda, 1st sold w/ some miles on it in '87 (dealer demo car?). Built in '85. |
and it has two plug harnesses from the door in the drivers kick panel???
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sorry to dig up the old post
but i m wondering will it be easier if i just drop in 2 doors with powereverything and do the wiring ? |
wiring. If you can wire properly
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Here's a new twist on this. . .
I'm putting an NA driver's side harness in my 88 TII since my harness is pretty screwed up, and I don't have access to another TII harness. I noticed; however, that while I have the two plugs at the kickpanel, there are NOT two plugs that are compatible on the dash harness. There is one that will plug in, but the other has a different shape than it should. I looked at the online FSM, but I only saw a schematic for the TII front harness. Anyone offer some insight? |
Originally posted by Icemark You should make sure the neutral safety wire has been hooked up. Most legal remote starts have them. It would then be impossible to remote start the car without the car's gear shift in neutral. The FC has a wire that grounds when the car is not in gear. |
Originally posted by Icemark Again sounds like it is not a base, but either way, the wheels have been changed or modified, since polished wheels again were not available until the 88 model year (7/87 through 12/88 production). Maybe this will help you: http://www.iluvmyrx7.com/2ndgen/manu...rochure-29.jpg sounds to me like you have a non stock modified car... |
Originally posted by JonEQuest I am doing a remote start in my vert. can you tell me which wire it is to save me looking through the diagrams? It will have ground on the wire, when the tranny is in the neutral position. |
Originally posted by 88ROTARY i have an 87 base and it has the phone dial wheels must be a misprint and the resistor pack for the low impedance injectors |
I have an 87 sport and it has a bunch of connectors in the door... I put s5 mirrors on and they were power so I plugged them in and got the switch for them... work great
Next Step... I want to put power mirrors and power door locks on. What parts would I need? My boss said that on some cars you actually require the window becuase of the rail difference due to the motor. I think what I mainly need is the cover with the switches and the motor? What else would I need? And yes I got a bunch of connectors that arent hooked up to anything in my door. |
Originally posted by Icemark Neutral safety is Green/Black at the ECU or harness coming in from the engine. It will have ground on the wire, when the tranny is in the neutral position. John |
Originally posted by sub9lulu sorry to dig up the old post but i m wondering will it be easier if i just drop in 2 doors with powereverything and do the wiring ? 1--get the proper harnesses(if your car doesnt have them yet), and then install the motors and switches....OR 2--replace the doors with power-equipped ones, then wire it all up all the way, then install the switch(mirrors), then paint to match if you couldnt get the right color doors.... maybe it's just me, but I think that I would prefer the first method. Up to you.... |
I have to agree with the first way too.
You can make a harness and get plugs from Radio Shack to have the ability to unplug stuff at a later date if a factory harness is hard to find. Power window circuits are fairly simple and don't need that many wires. John |
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