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ViperDude152 12-27-03 08:47 AM

N/A Fuel System Question
 
After i get done doing everything to my engine that i want to do. Im going to add bigger injectors.

550 Primary
720 Secondary
Walbro 255lph Fuel Pump

For the primarys Im not sure if I should go with 720s instead since I might be going with a B-port on the secondary ports. im leaving the primary ports alone.

Should I get a good pressure regulator to complete the upgrade aswell?

I have most of the other stuff in mind, S-AFC, wide band, etc.
The link below will basically tell you what im going to be doing to the engine
http://www.geocities.com/racingrotary/fmods.htm

Justin

Aaron Cake 12-27-03 10:47 AM

And why would you do that in an NA engine where the stock 460CC injectors are already big enough for anything up to 250 HP?

ViperDude152 12-27-03 12:09 PM

I dont want to run lean at all and I also dont want to try maxing out my injectors. they say they can run at 250 hp or 260 or 270 but have they really been tested in a n/a rex pushing 250 or so and staying at a nice a;f mixture? there is going to be alot more air going into my engine.

Aaron Cake 12-27-03 03:21 PM

You don't need to upgrade the fuel system. In fact, you'll probably find that you're running too rich with the 460cc injectors.

NZConvertible 12-27-03 03:27 PM

You're throwing a bunch of good money away for zero gain. As Aaron said, the stock injectors can safely (i.e. not maxed) flow enough fuel for ~250hp, which you'll never reach without a bridgeport. If you bridgeported the engine then the most you would need is a pair of 550cc/min secondaries and stock primaries.

pp13bnos 12-28-03 01:55 PM

Ok, back in my day.....(About 2 months ago. :D )I had a 90 n/a Rx-7 with a bunch of mods. With the stock fuel system, I had to lean my car out as much as 29% from what the stock ecu wanted to run my car at. And that was making 167rwhp on a mustang dyno. Something that not many people have done.

Listen to NZ and Aaron they know what they're talking about. :) CJ

Evil Aviator 12-28-03 08:47 PM

Re: N/A Fuel System Question
 
You want to use the smallest fuel injectors possible. This is not only for control purposes, but also because fuel injectors usually atomize best around 60-70% DC. Also, large injectors are expensive. ;)

4x460cc injectors are good for about 250bhp @ 80% DC
4x550cc injectors are good for about 300bhp @ 80% DC
2x550 + 2x720cc injectors are good for about 350bhp @ 80% DC.

Knock yourself out with the below link. Plan on .55 BSFC to be safe, but your engine will probably have a little bit better BSFC than this if tuned well.
http://www.rceng.com/technical.htm

Note that you can always add a couple psi to the fuel pressure if needed, assuming your fuel pump can handle it. Most injectors will flow well up to 58psi (4bar).


Originally posted by ViperDude152
Should I get a good pressure regulator to complete the upgrade aswell?
Yes.

The SX regulator is good.
http://www.essexind.com/sx_main.htm

BTW, Walbro makes cheapo fuel pumps. They work, but they are not made very well. If you just look at one you will see what I mean.


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