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Tatakai 10-16-08 09:46 PM

dont worry, if it don't buy name brand ish/try to make something yourself 90% of rx7club will hate it.

looks like my downpipe, the way i look at it- it'll help prevent overboosting!

gear_grinder 10-16-08 10:00 PM

LMAO

yeah guys, i made it shitty on purpose for protection, jeeze, lol.

TitaniumTT 10-16-08 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by gear_grinder (Post 8644520)
it looks like wax dripings becasue it was a little cold, but it still go good pentiration (IE heat marks on the inside of the pipe)

N00b - cold does not equal good penetration. It looks like was drippings becuase your wire speed was too fast.


Originally Posted by gear_grinder (Post 8644520)
and what have you welded?

https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...9&d=1221371729

https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...3&d=1220771578
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...0&d=1220503258
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...5&d=1220253168
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...4&d=1220253168
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...3&d=1220253168
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...6&d=1217793931
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...7&d=1202324732
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...4&d=1202187583
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...2&d=1202187583
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...6&d=1200369136
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...5&d=1200369136

TitaniumTT 10-16-08 10:33 PM

http://forum.teamfc3s.org/attachment...1&d=1196736542
http://forum.teamfc3s.org/attachment...1&d=1193203763
http://forum.teamfc3s.org/attachment...1&d=1193204166
http://forum.teamfc3s.org/attachment...1&d=1193204166
http://forum.teamfc3s.org/attachment...1&d=1193204166
http://forum.teamfc3s.org/attachment...1&d=1196263806
http://forum.teamfc3s.org/attachment...1&d=1199130250
http://forum.teamfc3s.org/attachment...1&d=1199131373
http://forum.teamfc3s.org/attachment...1&d=1198818456
http://forum.teamfc3s.org/attachment...1&d=1200892724
http://forum.teamfc3s.org/attachment...1&d=1200893356

You want more????? :fawk:

DelSlow 10-16-08 10:40 PM

What's that orange thingy? Is that a horn?

To the OP, I suggest watching some welding videos on youtube and reading a bit, then practicing on scrap before starting on the final product.

Weldingweb.com has quite a bit of info as well, I suggest boning up before you attempt welding that flange to that piece of... whatever you want to call it. It just takes a bit of practice and you'll be busting out blingin' ass welds in no time.

gear_grinder 10-16-08 11:02 PM

well excuse me master of the weld.

why dont you come to michigan and weld it for me.

and my welds look liked that after i turned the voltage up a little, not that the wire speed is too fast.

BTW i also ground the welds down some, but that should be obvious to a pro like you.

LOL, REted about welding.

that and i should say that it had enough heat to make good penitration.

EuroTrader 10-16-08 11:24 PM

WOW! LOL! That is straight shit... sorry, but you should have kept that poop a secret. :)

TitaniumTT 10-17-08 01:18 AM


Originally Posted by gear_grinder (Post 8644721)
well excuse me master of the weld.

why dont you come to michigan and weld it for me.

No
-Someone with better things to do


Originally Posted by gear_grinder (Post 8644721)
and my welds look liked that after i turned the voltage up a little, not that the wire speed is too fast.

BTW i also ground the welds down some, but that should be obvious to a pro like you.

that and i should say that it had enough heat to make good penitration.

Dood, PUT THE WELDER DOWN AND SLOWLY STEP AWAY FROM ANY AL ALL FABRICATION PROJECTS!!!!

Your wire speed was too fast and/or your amps were too low. <- That's a period. It means the end of, in this case, a fact. If your amps were too high you would have burned the material away. Your settings were WAY off.


Originally Posted by EuroTrader (Post 8644777)
WOW! LOL! That is straight shit... sorry, but you should have kept that poop a secret. :)

Can you imagine the shit he's keeping to himself :rlaugh:

TitaniumTT 10-17-08 01:33 AM


Originally Posted by DelSlow (Post 8644665)
What's that orange thingy? Is that a horn?

Yes, It's a Hella horn. Can in pairs. They COMMAND respect.

To the OP

this is a MIG weld

http://forum.teamfc3s.org/attachment...1&d=1198818456

Just incase you thought that all I did was TIG

Osirus9 10-17-08 02:26 AM

lol dude,

don't fuck with Titanium, he'll eat you... and your family.

and for the love of god, get a mandrel bent piece for the curve, and weld on a straight pipe to that. That way you get to do your own down pipe welding AND it will flow properly! everybody wins! yay!

gear_grinder 10-17-08 08:40 AM

amps were too low, just by a touch.

obviously you dont have better things to do if your on here mocking peoples first atempt at fabrication.

EuroTrader 10-17-08 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by gear_grinder (Post 8645423)
amps were too low, just by a touch.

obviously you dont have better things to do if your on here mocking peoples first atempt at fabrication.


Not true, but you posted your horrible work on the internet. What did you expect? It's like this.... I personally am NOT a pro cage fighter. But, what if I stepped into the cage and fought with pros. I would probally get my ass kicked hardcore. Then I decide to post the fight on the internet. What do you think the comments would be like LOL? I have no business being in there. Think about it. Great you tried, but you got your ass kicked by the welder LOL :)

manslayerx9 10-17-08 09:02 AM

no matter how awesome your shit is someone is going to think that i sux

same thing happened when i ported my motor and posted the pics. i thought i was good till the internet came in and said otherwise. so i didnt post any more pics about it or argue it further, they will win.

gear_grinder 10-17-08 09:06 AM

prefection snobs, lol.

RETed 10-17-08 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by gear_grinder (Post 8645463)
prefection snobs, lol.

p-e-r-f-e-c-t-i-o-n? :D


-Ted

ITSWILL 10-17-08 12:49 PM

TTT definitely knows how to weld, And I certainly can't weld as well as him, but his welds are nowhere near "prefection". Although I am sure he is proud of them (as he should be) I bet he would be the first to admit they aren't perfect.

EuroTrader 10-17-08 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by ITSWILL (Post 8646043)
TTT definitely knows how to weld, And I certainly can't weld as well as him, but his welds are nowhere near "prefection". Although I am sure he is proud of them (as he should be) I bet he would be the first to admit they aren't perfect.

I hope to god you are fucking kidding! I should be more proud of the shit I just took 5mins ago. Don't be a tard and defend his work LOL. Did you event look a the "fab" work he did?!? Look at it again and say he can weld. I dare you LOL. Ray cHarles could weld just as good LOL. YOU TARD!

Maybe your loking at the wrong stuff. The original poster's "welds" are in the very first post of this thread. I honestly think you were looking at something else. I hope atleast...

KhanArtisT 10-17-08 02:51 PM

He's talking about Titanium TT.

Regardless, for him to discourage geargrinder from future welding projects was completely unnecessary and uncalled for considering geargrinder admittedly stated his welds weren't the best. Everyone has to learn, some people's learning curves are different from others.

EuroTrader 10-17-08 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by KhanArtisT (Post 8646397)
He's talking about Titanium TT.

Regardless, for him to discourage geargrinder from future welding projects was completely unnecessary and uncalled for considering geargrinder admittedly stated his welds weren't the best. Everyone has to learn, some people's learning curves are different from others.

Yes, we all have learn of course. The problem is, the OP was trying to defend his shitt welds. This is the internet, he should have known the outcome. THAT'S IT. Great he tried and it came out shitty. WTF does he want? It's like he wants us all to suck his fucking dick or something. GREAT TRY! Sorry for the shitty outcome of your work.

https://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y1...stelbow002.jpg

TitaniumTT 10-17-08 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by ITSWILL (Post 8646043)
TTT definitely knows how to weld, And I certainly can't weld as well as him, but his welds are nowhere near "prefection". Although I am sure he is proud of them (as he should be) I bet he would be the first to admit they aren't perfect.

Thanks :icon_tup: I will admit that some of them need work, but there are a few in there that I would say are preeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeety close to perfect :lol: About 1/2 of my TIG welding pj's are in there. The front strut tower bar was my first real attempt. You can see a progression in the uniformity of the beads. I also had a powersupply problem and my welder kept blowing fuses. I couldn't get the AMPs I needed to do the 1/4" stuff. I would blow the breaker ~115-120A and I should've been 130+ so the penetration wasn't there. hmmmmm lesson learned. Call an electrician before continuing projects :rlaugh:


Originally Posted by KhanArtisT (Post 8646397)
He's talking about Titanium TT.

Regardless, for him to discourage geargrinder from future welding projects was completely unnecessary and uncalled for considering geargrinder admittedly stated his welds weren't the best. Everyone has to learn, some people's learning curves are different from others.

I discouraged him after he shrugged off good advice. If you want to learn great, but when you have someone that KNOWS what he did wrong and he still won't listen, that's when you know the guy has no business trying to learn becuase a) he won't take advice b) defends shit to the end c) doesn't know what he did wrong but still thinks he's right


Originally Posted by EuroTrader (Post 8646697)
Yes, we all have learn of course. The problem is, the OP was trying to defend his shitt welds. This is the internet, he should have known the outcome. THAT'S IT. Great he tried and it came out shitty. WTF does he want? It's like he wants us all to suck his fucking dick or something. GREAT TRY! Sorry for the shitty outcome of your work.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...stelbow002.jpg

I found a piece that I built when I first got my welder :icon_tdow I've come ALONG way with both my MIG and TIG. The MIG was pretty much all self taught. Run a bead, make notes of what I did right and more importantly what I did wrong. I learned by trial and error. My TIG experience was a little different. I picked up the torch and good lord it was ugly. I bought a book and did some reading, a little research on the interenet but the real tips came from my EMS guru. We were chatting one day and he gave me a few tips to try. We both bounce ideas off each other about what works and again, what doesn't. I like to think that we both learned from each other. I know I've learned alot about TIG just from talking to him about some of his experiences.

That said, the difference between myself and the OP is that I was willing to listen to someone much older and with alot more expierence than myself & guess what, my beads got ALOT better. That dash I posted in the first pic. That was my second attempt at sheet AL welding. The first one was a disaster because I had the balance turned up way to high. I melted through in a few spots. I had the balance turned up way high on the advice of my guru. THe higher the balance the more penetration. The less balance the more cleaning. I turned the balance down to almost nill and the beads still needed improvement. By the time I got to the sides, I had it dialed in. Guess what, lesson learned. The OP didn't learn a fucking thing between his crap weld or the advice given. It took me one or two beads to dial in the settings with the MIG to do my exhaust. 1/2 way through the first weld it was dialed in and I was off to finish it off. I'm discouraging him becuase he doesn't want to learn. He just wants attention

Stock206 10-18-08 02:15 AM

Just wrap it with some heat wrap...

SirCygnus 10-18-08 07:51 AM

that elbow is too well done.

this is better.
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...a/IMG_0017.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ota/fpmani.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ta/fpmani2.jpg

Aaron Cake 10-18-08 10:25 AM

That is the greatest manifold I've ever seen.

I'm going to use it as my wallpaper. Whoever made that thing needs to step away from the welder....

By the way, I just bought this:

http://www.aaroncake.net/forum/uploa...5_Econotig.jpg

Edit...I hope we are not discouraging the original poster from taking up welding. Everyone's welds are crap in the beginning, so what's being said shouldn't be taken as insults. For example, here's one of my masterpieces from 8 years ago. Done with a $99 AC buzz box stick welder:

http://www.aaroncake.net/misc/turboi...wnpipe%201.jpg

ITSWILL 10-18-08 11:20 AM

For the OP. Taking a look back at your welds, besides the using the incorrect settings. I'm going to guess that your welding mask is way too dark or you are not using one at all.

First I would recommend making sure you have a mask that you can properly see through. This will help you make continuous welds and to do better straight lines.

Second weld on some similar metal until you get all your settings right (eventually you wont need to do this)

And finally once you have done the first two things practice welding in a circle around tubing.

If you do these things you should see a huge improvement in your welds.

gear_grinder 10-18-08 11:51 AM

yeah, the mask was way too dark, the auto-dark one broke a while ago. so i was using a really old and dark mask.

you are correnct, i should have spent more time figure out the correct setings.

i did not want to buy a prebent pipe becasue I WANTED TO LEARN HOW to make elbows like this. That was the whole point, i just rememberd i could have easily run down to the local advanced auto, fliped open the book and bought an elbow for like $20.

the fact is that i do not own a welder, but wish to become proficent enough for what i want to do. (I also said on the first page i was goint to do it again now that i had the setting figured out and using 4 15 degree cuts.)

the elbow was in the trash 2 days ago.

BTW is that a rigged up manifold up there for a KA24E? ^^^


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