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OutCold 06-29-08 05:24 AM

Mazda lock system
 
Are there any options too the standard locks on the rx-7 or do they need too be especially fabricated?

Thing is right now my Mazda got the standard lock system, wich means that almost anyone with the standard _Mazda key from those years or maybe even just a screwdriver can with easy take off with my car, my agenda is finding a less common locksystem wich cannot just be copied off by anyone, i mean, keys and all yeah im not looking for any voice activation or star wars stuff here haha

RETed 06-29-08 06:56 AM

Well, the keys have a 4 digit ID code...at least the the USA they do.
Technically, there are only 10,000 combinations for the key, so I'm sure there are dupes.

Instead of worrying about such esoteric ideas, why not just get an alarm system???


-Ted

AUGieDogie 06-29-08 08:00 AM

Its like most older cars, some keys start other cars. The keys to my convertible will open my turbo but not start it. the key to my turbo vert will open and start my turbo. my turbo key won't start the others though. the turbo is the one with the most miles/age on it so the locks are the most worn. Hell almost anything opens the door lock.

I agree with ted, just get an alarm they are easy to install, especially in a S4 with factory alarm. EASY EASY

OutCold 06-29-08 08:01 AM

Depends, wich features would i have too include then? cause even if i installed an alarm system anyone with the standard mazda key can slip away without activating the alarm...

REVERE 06-29-08 08:27 AM

Immobilizer with an ID

RETed 06-29-08 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by OutCold (Post 8328959)
Depends, wich features would i have too include then? cause even if i installed an alarm system anyone with the standard mazda key can slip away without activating the alarm...

I don't know what kind of alarm system are available over there, but most of the ones in the USA require a remote key fob to disarm the alarm or a valet switch THAT YOU NORMALLY HIDE.

If you're that paranoid about the car getting stolen, one of the best and cheapest solutions is to install a hidden fuel pump and / or ignition coil switch.
In fact, killing the power to the ignition coils will cause the engine to flood, and the thieves will NEVER get it started.


-Ted

Icemark 06-29-08 11:05 PM


Originally Posted by OutCold (Post 8328879)
Thing is right now my Mazda got the standard lock system, wich means that almost anyone with the standard _Mazda key from those years or maybe even just a screwdriver can with easy take off with my car,


Originally Posted by AUGieDogie (Post 8328957)
Its like most older cars, some keys start other cars. The keys to my convertible will open my turbo but not start it. the key to my turbo vert will open and start my turbo. my turbo key won't start the others though. the turbo is the one with the most miles/age on it so the locks are the most worn. Hell almost anything opens the door lock.


Rather anyone with anything opening up the door, instead of the correct key, indicates that the key cyl is very dirty and clogged up with crap.

If you clean the key cyl out, that problem will be fixed.

lack of maintenance is not a design problem.

JSmith0101 06-29-08 11:08 PM


Originally Posted by RETed (Post 8328922)
Well, the keys have a 4 digit ID code...at least the the USA they do.
Technically, there are only 10,000 combinations for the key, so I'm sure there are dupes.

Instead of worrying about such esoteric ideas, why not just get an alarm system???


-Ted

I thought it was cute that the FC keys had the number stamped right on them.

Did FBs and FDs, as well? I lost my OEM FB key and sold my FC with its OEM key.

OutCold 06-30-08 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by REVERE (Post 8328977)
Immobilizer with an ID


Elaborate.....

farberio 06-30-08 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by OutCold (Post 8332085)
Elaborate.....

Immobilizer system is used on modern cars, each key has a unique identifier that is known by the immobilizer. When you start the car the immobilizer checks the key id code and if it matches it allows the engine to start or remain started. If the id code does not match then the immobilizer stalls out the car or prevents the starter from turning over.

OutCold 07-01-08 05:12 AM

Expensive system?

REVERE 07-01-08 06:44 AM

About as expensive as a regular alarm, but as you would be retrofitting your key would not be the ID. As mentioned previously you would have a fob which works the same was as an id key. Some systems require a swipe some just need the fob to be in proximity of the car. If the fob is not in proximity there will be no fuel, hence no ignition (sometimes they cut or lock something else). These systems work well because they don’t just make a loud noise they inhibit hotwiring.

As RETed mentioned, a hidden $2 missile switch used to cut Battery /fuel is a cheap and effective anti-theft device.

Texas_Ace 07-01-08 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by REVERE (Post 8335244)

As RETed mentioned, a hidden $2 missile switch used to cut Battery /fuel is a cheap and effective anti-theft device.


Personally that is what i will be doing, a switch for fuel or spark, though i am not sure which one. I would usually do fuel but i like the idea of it flooding so they can never get it started even if they find the switch.

I might also pick up an alarm off ebay for $30, for a $500 car it can't be too bad, and if it is, then off it comes.

nyc_scorpio 07-01-08 09:07 AM

well I eliminated the door key holes with finger knobs things, closet brass thumbles looking things, then put actuators on both doors rigged to my alarm. power door locks on a S4 is hot :)

Texas_Ace 07-01-08 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by nyc_scorpio (Post 8335413)
well I eliminated the door key holes with finger knobs things, closet brass thumbles looking things, then put actuators on both doors rigged to my alarm. power door locks on a S4 is hot :)

I had thought of this before but didn't know how easy it would be to do the power lock conversion. So how hard was it?

nyc_scorpio 07-01-08 09:17 AM

no way man, easy as hell. I will take apart my door tommorrow and post a pic of where i put the actuator and the finger thing I was talking about, hae to remove panel to replace blown speaker :( . but very easy, hardest part is figuring out where to place the actuator. took my like 15 min. ohh. the keyhole thing I used I got in homedepot, a bag of 4 for 1.99

Texas_Ace 07-01-08 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by nyc_scorpio (Post 8335429)
no way man, easy as hell. I will take apart my door tommorrow and post a pic of where i put the actuator and the finger thing I was talking about, hae to remove panel to replace blown speaker :( . but very easy, hardest part is figuring out where to place the actuator. took my like 15 min. ohh. the keyhole thing I used I got in homedepot, a bag of 4 for 1.99


A picture would be great, i was looking at a $50 alarm on ebay just the other day with lock actuators.

nyc_scorpio 07-01-08 09:33 AM

thats what I did. I got a crimestopper alarm from ebay. and got extra actuators just in case. they will last a good 5 years. I had 1 freeze on me, but since I had extra ones, it was nice. all together I spent maybe
Alarm = 75.00 with carjack dualzone protection
2 extra actuator = 11.00
thumbknobs = 1.99
S4 powerdoors = priceless


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