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Rotary Dawg 03-04-03 08:09 PM

Which LSD? Vote!!!
 
Which kind of LSD do you prefer? Cast your votes...

nillahcaz 03-04-03 08:57 PM

I can't stand clutch, give me a torsen.

4fcn121 03-04-03 09:54 PM

Torsen Cause I just got a use one from a 93 fd. hope it will work on my TII:p: :p: :p:

autocrash 03-04-03 11:58 PM

Wish I could afford to even think about that right now.. :D

Rotary Dawg 03-05-03 01:53 AM

I have heard bad things about Torsen LSDs...can anyone confirm?

nillahcaz 03-05-03 09:51 AM

what have you heard? they are great they are predictable, don't change with time and do not need additives in the oil.

SureShot 03-05-03 10:52 AM

See those drift movie clips?
Guess what they are using.
Torsen baby..

(I just have LSD & turbo envy)

Crionics 03-05-03 11:49 AM


Originally posted by autocrash
Wish I could afford to even think about that right now.. :D
lol...amen bratha

Corprin 03-05-03 01:33 PM

Viscous and clutch are about equal in my book. If I had to choose I would go with viscous. So you have to mantain them, well, what is some silicon fluid change every once in a while.

You still have to change the gear oil in a torsen unit. Also, I have NEVER seen a Viscous or Clutch unit look like this....

http://www.geocities.com/sr20_510/images/misc/

Yes, that is a quafe unit stripped, and broken, as it was pulled out of my '71 datsun 510. 224hp/203ftlb n/a 4cyl. Swapped in an OEM Subaru unit and never had a problem after.

Rotorific 03-05-03 01:47 PM

A clutch lsd is actually a good lsd the only downside is that the clutch packs tend to wear out.
Torsen is used in the s5 and s6 and they are good as well... there are pros and cons to both honestly.

PPC-Racing 03-05-03 03:58 PM

I run a Quaife ATB and that damage is not road racing damage, ( which is what the ATB is desinged for) and if it is, then you must have a prostetic feet and hands to do that kind of damage.. how old was it? I run an ATB through a 300hp+/280 tq FWD car for road, solo I racing and daily driver.. mine looks like it should with 3 years of use..



Originally posted by Corprin
Viscous and clutch are about equal in my book. If I had to choose I would go with viscous. So you have to mantain them, well, what is some silicon fluid change every once in a while.

You still have to change the gear oil in a torsen unit. Also, I have NEVER seen a Viscous or Clutch unit look like this....

http://www.geocities.com/sr20_510/images/misc/

Yes, that is a quafe unit stripped, and broken, as it was pulled out of my '71 datsun 510. 224hp/203ftlb n/a 4cyl. Swapped in an OEM Subaru unit and never had a problem after.


ORX705 03-05-03 07:30 PM

i'd go for clutch. most torsion diffs can't handle big power.

E6KT2 03-05-03 09:24 PM

"i'd go for clutch. most torsion diffs can't handle big power."

Have you seen the Guru Motorsports unit? I don't think that bad boy would fail no matter what you could throw at it. I have tried again and again to email them and haven't ever recieved a response so I have not learned specifically how much it can handle though.

Have you ever talked to them personally? I see you are in OZ and I wanted to ask them about their lightweight rotor kit.

Corprin 03-06-03 12:03 AM


Originally posted by PPC-Racing
I run a Quaife ATB and that damage is not road racing damage, ( which is what the ATB is desinged for) and if it is, then you must have a prostetic feet and hands to do that kind of damage.. how old was it? I run an ATB through a 300hp+/280 tq FWD car for road, solo I racing and daily driver.. mine looks like it should with 3 years of use..
I am sorry, but I guess you were there for the destruction of this LSD. Because from what you say, it didn't happen. During an open track event, I clipped a rumble strip, which lifted the left rear tire off the ground. sending the tire spinning, As I was exiting the turn near WOT, I was sending alot of power for a 1947lb car to the rear tires. When the tire came down, the unit did it's job, and locked the rear axle. The damn near instant change in torque bias sent parts flying.

Yes it was a quafe unit, yes it was done road racing, and yes quafe kept their word and replaced it. Because I didn't want another one going south on me during an event, or just putting around on the streets I sold it, and went with a scooby unit.

I am sure I could scan the letter from Quafe, but frankly I don't think I need to jerk you off about this. You love your quafe, that's great, I didn't love what mine did to my rear end. This thread was posted to ask what people thought about the different types of LSD's, and I posted my thought, and pics to back it up. Take it for what it is.

Let it go ;)

j200pruf 03-06-03 01:17 AM

I understand how a clutch and kinda how a torsen LSD works but could anyone explain how a Viscous type works, torsen also. Or maybe a site that would explain it.

Thanks
-Justin

Corprin 03-06-03 09:46 AM

Viscous
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/differential7.htm

Torsen
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/differential8.htm

xfeastonarsex 05-14-03 07:24 PM

I like the torsen... Sounds really bad when it kicks in though, like you broke something... :)

xfeastonarsex 05-14-03 07:25 PM


Originally posted by j200pruf
I understand how a clutch and kinda how a torsen LSD works but could anyone explain how a Viscous type works, torsen also. Or maybe a site that would explain it.

Thanks
-Justin

It uses viscosity (sp?) ... just noticed Corprin got a link... hehe

Trx250r03 05-15-03 12:00 AM

what has to be done to fit a torsen from a FD into a FC?

j200pruf 05-15-03 04:23 AM

What would be the best diff for someone with a well tuned NA that wants to road race on a budget.

bingoboy 05-15-03 05:15 AM

so what are the drawbacks of a viscous lsd?

nillahcaz 05-15-03 02:42 PM

it has high power loss.
Viscous http://auto.howstuffworks.com/differential7.htm
torson http://auto.howstuffworks.com/differential8.htm

twister 05-21-03 10:32 PM


Originally posted by E6KT2
"i'd go for clutch. most torsion diffs can't handle big power."

Have you seen the Guru Motorsports unit? I don't think that bad boy would fail no matter what you could throw at it. I have tried again and again to email them and haven't ever recieved a response so I have not learned specifically how much it can handle though.

Have you ever talked to them personally? I see you are in OZ and I wanted to ask them about their lightweight rotor kit.

Hi Weird they did not reply.
I help them out and normally they are really good at there e-mails. try rohan@gurumotorsports.com

Try again, or if in Texas drop in to Ari's he has several I think and Bill Cardell with the MX5's also has them, the MX5 ones bolt straight into a Series 2 (non turbo) I believe.

They have never had one fail and offer a 100% refund/replacement if they do due to this record. Made from a single piece of billet, a real piece of art.

Center of The Universe 05-21-03 11:49 PM


Originally posted by SureShot
See those drift movie clips?
Guess what they are using.
Torsen baby..

(I just have LSD & turbo envy)

Yeh, I do too. :|


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