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onlyrotary17 12-30-11 11:07 AM

I don't even have a 7 anymore but i will subscribe :icon_tup:
Although I paid LOTS of attention to mine before I sold it, I wish I was as mechanically inclined as I am now.

Awesome restore/rebuild! keep up the good work.

robx7fcna 12-31-11 02:12 PM

Great thread! I know how it is trying to get this stuff done with a limited time with a baby. My daughter is now 3 and it is starting to get easier for me to go out and be able to work on the car and let her play in the car while I work on it.

I love these kind of threads, please keep updating when you have the chance!

JerryLH3 01-24-12 09:27 PM

Well, I'd say it's about time for an update. There isn't any major progress, but things are moving along. First, at the beginning of the year, I made myself a to-do list for quarter 1 of 2012.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...1/IMG_1350.jpg

The car as of a few weeks ago:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...1/IMG_1351.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...1/IMG_1353.jpg

My license plate's current home plus some random shots of garage decorations I'm not sure I've ever shown off:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...1/IMG_1354.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...1/IMG_1355.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...1/IMG_1356.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...1/IMG_1357.jpg

The wife's car:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...1/IMG_1358.jpg

JerryLH3 01-24-12 09:29 PM

And finally, something different. Two trips to the junkyard in the past eight days has paid off in a passenger side fender and two doors. Thank you to these two S4s that have paid the price, but at least had some worthwhile parts on them.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...1/IMG_1365.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...1/IMG_1367.jpg

And some time on the phone and computer placing orders has paid off as well.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...1/IMG_1368.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...1/IMG_1369.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...1/IMG_1370.jpg

That's about it for now. Just a few more parts to order to finish the rear brakes and suspension. I'll start disassembling the rear suspension and brakes piece by piece. I'm planning on taking a vacation the week of my birthday in March and the goal is to have the car completely prepped for paint at that point.

sharingan 19 01-25-12 06:28 PM

Little by little...

J5sense 01-26-12 05:07 PM

great job. im not looking forward to going through the suspension / bushings on mine. glad i can take notes here!

tudy rivera 01-26-12 06:51 PM

looking good

JerryLH3 01-30-12 09:13 PM

I've managed to get a few things done the past couple of days. The passenger side door is now ready to come off the car as it has been completely stripped of everything I need and maybe a couple things I don't.

First thing to come out was the door harness - after removing the plastic sheet with that horrible black sticky tar that holds it to the door. Oh, how I hate that stuff.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...1/IMG_1371.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...1/IMG_1380.jpg

The lovely goop...

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...1/IMG_1383.jpg

And everything else taken out of the door:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...1/IMG_1392.jpg

It turns out when you get a donor door that did not have power locks and want to put it on a car equipped with power locks, it is easiest to take the whole catch assembly out of the door, rods and all. There's a harness that goes inside the catch for the lock mechanism. I haven't looked at the donor car yet, but even if it is possible to retrofit it, it's not worth the time. Three screws and a few seconds of maneuvering was all it took.

Since I had the harness out and I am running new speaker wire, I removed the old speaker wire and just ran the new stuff in its place with the proper terminals.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...1/IMG_1393.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...1/IMG_1394.jpg

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And the finished product after a partial rewrap of the harness:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...1/IMG_1397.jpg

Next up is cleaning the rest of the parts - window regulator, door lock solenoid and the catch. Then do the exact same thing for the driver's side and then haul off the old doors to the junkyard to get my whopping $24 worth of core charges back.

RRTEC 01-30-12 09:54 PM

Nice work! Can't wait to see it done.

JerryLH3 02-20-12 09:18 PM

It's time for a quick little update. Work on the doors has progressed and the donor doors are almost ready to be bolted back to the chassis.

The "naked" car:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...2/IMG_1398.jpg

Donor doors before all parts and tar was stripped:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...2/IMG_1401.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...2/IMG_1402.jpg

Some reference shots when it comes time for reassembly:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...2/IMG_1408.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...2/IMG_1412.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...2/IMG_1423.jpg

Since the inside of the doors is not something that is seen all that often and most paint shops would consider that a color change, I painted them myself with two part base and clear aerosols. It's not great, but it looks fine. If I really hate it, the paint shop can always just go over them for me as long as I'm willing to pay.

The donor doors after all prep work and painting was done:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...2/IMG_1426.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...2/IMG_1427.jpg

I went down to Home Depot and they happened to have Goo-Gone in an aerosol can on clearance for around $1.50 per can. One and a half cans removed all evidence there was ever tar on these doors. Here's a shot similar to one above, this time with the tar removed:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...2/IMG_1428.jpg

Observant viewers will notice the inner door frame is different from S4 to S5 due to differences in door speaker location. I have a plan and it involves a bare minimum amount of cutting, as I will be mounting speakers in the stock S5 location. I just need to take some measurements, make a template and order materials.

sharingan 19 02-20-12 11:17 PM

Observant viewers ineed! I much prefer the s5 speaker location, but they don't work too well w/ the 10ae door panels I have. I've thought about swapping to s5 panels but that would:
A) ruin the 10ae theme (how many black s4 door panels are there?)
B) require s5 doors or cutting of my doors
C) require custom speaker wiring (not much a core but am additional hassle nonetheless)

rottenknarf 02-23-12 09:02 PM

hmm i will be doing this with my s5 shortly

younG_Gunner 02-24-12 02:33 AM

Great thread!

Looks like an S4 fender. Could you please do me a favor and take a picture of the front side skirt piece pressed against the fender?

My OEM s5 side skirt doesn't seem to fit on my s4 fender. I was just wondering if it was just me.

Logicalbomb 02-24-12 11:20 AM

Wow
 
I felt like I was getting a lot done until I viewed this! I am excited to swap out the suspension soon though. I will follow this for the sheer amount of inspiration it gives me to finish my long going 86 SE project. So far the only huge change I have done to my car is out in an S5 motor that we fully rebuilt and ported like crazy lol.

Two thumbs up mate! :icon_tup:

:icon_tup:

JerryLH3 02-24-12 09:58 PM


Originally Posted by younG_Gunner (Post 10992067)
Great thread!

Looks like an S4 fender. Could you please do me a favor and take a picture of the front side skirt piece pressed against the fender?

My OEM s5 side skirt doesn't seem to fit on my s4 fender. I was just wondering if it was just me.

I remember seeing your picture. It looks like this S4 fender is just fine:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...2/IMG_1431.jpg

I'm not quite sure what the deal is with the fender you have. It seems very peculiar. I was under the impression all FC fenders were the same except for mounting points of molding, holes for skirts, etc.

younG_Gunner 02-25-12 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by JerryLH3 (Post 10993030)
I remember seeing your picture. It looks like this S4 fender is just fine:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...2/IMG_1431.jpg

I'm not quite sure what the deal is with the fender you have. It seems very peculiar. I was under the impression all FC fenders were the same except for mounting points of molding, holes for skirts, etc.

I was under the same impression. That's what all my reading concluded to anyway. Thank you though. I appreciate you taking the time. Hopefully I can get my dash looking as great as yours some day. My gauges/signals/dash need a major overhaul. :lol:

Keep up the great work, and thanks again.

JerryLH3 03-12-12 10:03 AM

Well, I'm on vacation yet again with the goal to knock out some more work on the RX-7, so what better way to celebrate my 30th birthday yesterday than by spending a few hours in the garage?

I mentioned earlier that I would have to come up with some sort of solution to my speaker mount dilemma, as the donor S4 doors do not have the correct mounting location that S5 doors used. After tossing around a few ideas, this is what I came up with. I'm using some ABS plastic cut to shape and then heat molded as a panel for a pair of aftermarket speaker spacer mount rings to attach to. Before my old S5 doors went to scrap, I took measurements of where the speaker needed to be located. Here is the work that took place yesterday.

An outline of where the speaker mount ring will need to go. A speaker was then placed in its appropriate center location to determine what needed to be trimmed.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...3/IMG_1448.jpg

Trimming of the door panel:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...3/IMG_1449.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...3/IMG_1453.jpg

Test fitting the window channel bracket in, as I figured it may be an issue after repeated test fitting of the speaker.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...3/IMG_1454.jpg

Progressing to cardboard templates:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...3/IMG_1455.jpg

Yesterday's end result:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...3/IMG_1456.jpg

Once the speaker rings are here, this project can be completed.

Parts are almost all here for the rear suspension and one corner has been disassembled. The other corner needs to be taken apart and then I can drop the subframe to get access to the rear lower trailing arms. I would have liked to drop the entire rear subframe - differential, suspension and all as one unit, but I just don't have the facilities for that - my jack is really the limiting factor as it would not be able to lift the car high enough.

7speed 03-12-12 11:21 PM

I'm truly envious of your patience and attention to detail. The restoration is coming along very nicely!

JerryLH3 03-13-12 03:04 PM

Here's the progress on the rear suspension. Both corners have been disassembled and the exhaust from the mid pipe back has been removed. The rear subframe will get dropped next and then everything will get cleaned up, bushings swapped and reassembled.

The beginning:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...3/IMG_1458.jpg

Three bolts holding in the shock and one holding down the brake caliper were all removed. The shock and spring assembly were removed and the caliper was hung from the shock tower for now.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...3/IMG_1460.jpg

The caliper mounting bracket was unbolted and the screws holding in the brake rotor were drilled out (164,000 miles and still the original rotors - ouch!) and the brake rotor was removed:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...3/IMG_1461.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...3/IMG_1462.jpg

After that, all the bolts holding the triaxial hub could be undone. With some effort the hub comes off:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...3/IMG_1466.jpg

The ABS sensor is also removed - there are four bolts holding it to the hub and arm and a grommet that goes into the chassis where the connector can be unplugged and pulled outside the vehicle. After everything was removed:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...3/IMG_1467.jpg

And the carnage in the garage (you may notice sanding has begun on the front bumper - finally some bodywork):

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...3/IMG_1468.jpg

JerryLH3 03-14-12 10:16 AM

Yesterday was one of those days where it seems like it will never end.

There was a suspected issue on the passenger side rear wheel bearing as the rotor was seized on and it wasn't on the driver side. It's also the side that I snapped a wheel stud off of a long time ago. Well, as the hub was getting pressed out so that the broken wheel stud could be replaced, this happened:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...3/IMG_1476.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...3/IMG_1477.jpg

I guess it was a good thing I had already decided to just go ahead and buy new wheel bearings "since I was already in there". I also had horrible luck trying to get the ABS wheel off to push out the broken stud.

My speaker mount solution still needs a bit of tweaking, as the window channel mount really gets in the way and I can't push the speaker as far forward as it needs to be. If anyone with an S5 thinks they can use S4 doors easily with S5 interior door panels and keep the door speakers, think again. I would seriously advise against it and wait for some S5 doors to pop up. It's what I should have done, but I wanted to move on. C'est la vie.

neighborhood 03-17-12 04:54 AM

subscribing
nice work so far

ChunkyMonkey 03-17-12 06:43 AM

This thread has been a great read. I'm about to start a similar process with a 91 project. Your attention to the smallest of things is inspiring.

Subscribing

JerryLH3 03-19-12 10:29 AM

I appreciate the kind words from everyone thus far.

I was on vacation last week and didn't get as much work done as I wanted to, but those things happen. Here's the new shocks and springs for the rear:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...3/IMG_1480.jpg

And the completely blown old stuff:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...3/IMG_1481.jpg

And what was that I said a few posts back about just using S5 doors and not attempting to try mounting speakers in an S5 location using an S4 door? Yeah, goodbye S4 doors, and hello proper S5 doors:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...3/IMG_1483.jpg

beefhole 03-19-12 08:12 PM

Where did you source the new wiring connectors?

JerryLH3 03-20-12 08:21 PM

Most of the connectors were reused. I did source terminals that are OEM style from Eastern Beaver (http://www.easternbeaver.com). They are Sumitomo, I think the ones I have mostly been using were the .090 variety.

RXeligion 03-21-12 11:57 PM

I wish I had the resources to pull this off for my 10th Ann. You've inspired me to go the extra mile to correct a few small issues before they become huge burdons, though. :nod: Great job!

scrapp 04-18-12 06:11 PM

I want to watch this build, woohooo

just startn 04-18-12 09:32 PM

Coming along well! Although you s5 doors now, i already remedy the s5 with s5 door panel speaker situation. I may go over it in my thread. Also, ever time i take a hub out, that wheel bearing race always comes out with them. I never changed wheel bearings and just put the hub back on.

JerryLH3 04-19-12 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by just startn (Post 11060687)
Coming along well! Although you s5 doors now, i already remedy the s5 with s5 door panel speaker situation. I may go over it in my thread. Also, ever time i take a hub out, that wheel bearing race always comes out with them. I never changed wheel bearings and just put the hub back on.

It'd be interesting to see what you did. If those S5 doors had not become available when they did, I probably would have continued to plow through, but I was getting pretty frustrated with the whole thing. While it was an exercise in ingenuity, it ended up being nothing but a waste of time for me. I could have already had the subframe dropped and the rear suspension done if it wasn't for the time I wasted on that.

Anyhow, I haven't been out in the garage in a while, but I am hoping to get out there tonight. It's a massive mess, with doors, exhaust and suspension components scattered all over the place.

I of course keep digging myself in deeper too. The thought has now crossed my mind on more than one occasion that if I am going to have the entire car painted, why not just pull the engine and have the engine bay painted at the same time? It needs it.

My wife and I passed an RX-7 at a used car lot the other day. This was the conversation that ensued:

Me: I wonder what they want for it?
Her: You already have an RX-7.
Me: You can never have too many RX-7s.
She glares at me.
Me: How many is too many? Two?
Her: At this point, I could say one is too many.

:lol:

just startn 04-19-12 08:56 AM

I would have already pulled the engine to paint the engine bay. The engine bay is the easiest spot on the car to paint. If you have a decent air compressor you can paint the engine bay. Dont over think it, the bay has so many curves its hard to mess up

maikelc 04-25-12 11:27 PM

This is definately the mother of all restorations. It makes my restoration look like it ain't s**t lol.. Very impressive

REAmemiya_fan 04-26-12 08:14 AM

Hahahahahaa @ the conversation. I've had three total, and two at the same time at most. My gf asks if I will ever buy a different car. I say yea when I have the money to afford a new Toyobaru BRZ ;)

rxse7en 04-26-12 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by JerryLH3 (Post 11024517)
Most of the connectors were reused. I did source terminals that are OEM style from Eastern Beaver (http://www.easternbeaver.com). They are Sumitomo, I think the ones I have mostly been using were the .090 variety.

I was disappointed to find that that website is NOT Asian porn. I have to go through my garage, but I may have some s5 interior pieces I can donate to the build.

2-N-D-pink 04-26-12 11:27 PM

Wow the restoration looks great. I didnt think it was anything near to what youve done to your car when you stopped by the house to pick up the doors. Great job! Extremely clean....:) Now I have a black S5 FC that Im parting out with black interior if you need more parts.


Great job man! Looks awesome.

JerryLH3 04-28-12 08:16 PM

Thanks for the kind words everyone. I haven't done much lately, but I did start fiberglass reinforcing some dash cracks. More on that later.

Sorry to disappoint you with the link Brian. I'm sure a quick Google search will get you what you need. I'll be in touch with you again about those wheels. I think I'm almost good with interior stuff, but if it's better than what I have, I'm game.

gesangbaer 05-08-12 11:33 PM

Subscribed. This is really inspiring! All I need now is time. :wink:

JerryLH3 05-09-12 11:41 AM

You and me both. Hopefully the summer will provide some. I should have enough done for another update soon.

Landon303 02-24-13 03:08 PM

Any updates Jerry?

JerryLH3 05-06-13 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by Landon303 (Post 11386099)
Any updates Jerry?

As a matter of fact (nearly three months after you asked), yes. And no.

Work hasn't progressed all that quickly. In fact, I'd say it is nearly at a standstill. My wife and I will be having our second child the first week in June, so again, life has disrupted progress. A couple of months ago, a friend and I dropped the rear subframe so the rear trailing arms can have their bushings changed. As it turns out, it looks like the front differential mount is weak and possibly near breaking. Given the infamous nature of this mount breaking quite often on FCs, I would rather replace it now than have to drop the rear end again.

The garage is also quite a mess. I will be in and out of town the next two months as I am doing some field work in preparation for (finally!) graduating in December.

The car hasn't been on all four wheels since last March! I'm not sure how much will be done by the end of this year, but it's not as bad as it looks. The next goal is to finish up the rear suspension and brakes and get the car back on the ground. After that, there are still some rewiring of things that need to be done - mainly just running new speaker wire and a battery relocation. I'm also thinking of ditching the aftermarket head unit and getting an auxiliary input wired into an original FC head unit I have. Over the past three years, I have shifted more and more towards a near, if not completely original interior.

I'll put my conservative estimate of completion at end 2014/beginning 2015.

xterra18 05-09-13 01:43 PM

Jerry I just want to say your work are amazing,

Landon303 05-10-13 11:43 AM

Ah cool! Congrats on the 2nd child, glad the project's still in the works :)

I fully 100% support your decision to use a stock radio. You'll LOVE how it looks haha.

Be sure to update again as you progress!!

-Landon

mrecoolgar 05-10-13 08:00 PM

We have too much in common.
Great work.
This is my convertible project:
https://www.rx7club.com/new-member-r...-939065/page3/

JerryLH3 05-10-13 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by mrecoolgar (Post 11464581)
We have too much in common.
Great work.
This is my convertible project:
https://www.rx7club.com/new-member-r...-939065/page3/

Incredible attention to detail on a part virtually nobody will see - I love it!

jjandros 05-10-13 10:53 PM

Honestly, I have passed this thread at least a hundred times or so since becoming a member. Tonight I opened up a couple of build threads and the first one I went to was yours. I've now been reading and researching further into all that you've done and have spent almost five hours looking back and forth between your build and websites you've linked to. Amazing restoration. Definitely subscribed and motivated to start my own build thread. Also, it may be late but congrats on the second child! Keep it up.

HRnico 06-25-13 05:42 PM

just found this, want to see how it turns out.

JerryLH3 07-31-13 07:10 PM

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Well, how about an update? Not much today, but positive progress was made and it felt good to get something done.

The rear subframe is back in the car and no longer taking up space on my garage floor.

Attachment 665221

New Racing Beat sway bar:

Attachment 665222

And the subframe is back in:

Attachment 665223

I should have some time to work on it this weekend, and with any luck the car may be on its wheels for the first time in five months.

Work done on the rear subframe included changing the semi-trailing arm bushings and giving everything a decent cleaning.

clokker 08-01-13 09:07 AM

Wow, just wow.

The scope and granularity of detail work is impressive but even more so is the millions of hours spent planning and organizing this project.

Slow clap.

JerryLH3 08-01-13 11:10 AM

Thank you! That means a lot from somebody whose work I respect and admire.

clokker 08-01-13 11:16 AM

Oh, thank you.
You can work on my car anytime.

JerryLH3 08-03-13 08:45 PM

5 Attachment(s)
I was able to get quite a bit done today with the help of a friend. The car isn't back on all four wheels yet, but it is close.

First up was cleaning the hub carriers after all the hub, bearing and bushing were pressed out:

Attachment 665050

They make a lovely pair:

Attachment 665051

New wheel bearing, seal and DTSS eliminator bushing all pressed in:

Attachment 665052

The brake rotor dust shield was painted just as I did on the front:

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After this a broken wheel stud was replaced on the right side hub and the hubs were pressed back in. Unfortunately (or fortunately, who knows?), my car is now an ABS delete car. We completely forgot to reattach the ABS wheels to the hub before they were pressed back in. I doubt the hubs can be pressed back out without the bearings snapping in half yet again. So for now, no ABS.

It looks like I should consistently have some time to work on this project each week now (with help even!), so more updates should follow much more rapidly than they have in the past year.


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