J-SPEC Flash to pass lamps
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so who has this on your 7?
i would need to know if this needs rewiring or if this is just a plug n play. does replace the headlights? help from the forum please. |
You need to drill carefully the back of the lens to the correct size. Need to buy a rubber bulb socket that you can find in most auto parts. Put a bulb in the socket and put it in the back of the lens and done. I dont think this can bright more that your headlights, but you can wire the cables to turn the lens on when you turn on your parking lights.
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I have them, but I havent wired them since I got 'em. Attachment 705099 https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1209957624 https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v.../rCIMG7690.jpg |
they are made out of glass, and do not replace your headlights, and do not plug and play, you have to run your own wire to the head light for it to work with the passing switch. at least is what i was told. if you need more info call corksport they have them available
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corksport sells them theyre like 185 i think.
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thats a good way, thanks for that.
i should have been more clear. corksport is selling this FTP lense. this is what it says on corksport.com: "These are a direct replacement to your stock flash-to-pass lenses. The difference in these Japanese ones use 168Wedge style bulb as light instead of the headlight." anyone have these? |
how are these different than the us ftp's?
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hmm, i would also like to know that answer...
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The lens is different and it has a 5 watt bulb in it. You should wire in day time running lights.
http://www.aaroncake.net/RX-7/lights.htm |
Originally Posted by Turbo II Rotor
(Post 8160725)
The lens is different and it has a 5 watt bulb in it. You should wire in day time running lights.
http://www.aaroncake.net/RX-7/lights.htm Yup. I just gotta wire mine and put some fresh bulbs. This one doesn't look like it's the JDM FTP. Usually the 'real' JDM front also has diff. Driving lights. it has 2 bulbs in there from what I know and have.. Maybe the headlights reactractions are disabled. haha https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1209952836 |
We (CorkSport) do sell those. They are a plastic lens, and have more diffusing marks on the inside of the lens. The require some wiring, and are best wired up as running lights, similar to parking lights
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i got that pic from corksports site. they are selling those ftp lense w/ lights. a little bit on the pricey side though. just wanted to know if its worth the trouble of getting one for that price.
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Originally Posted by 309
(Post 8160849)
i got that pic from corksports site. they are selling those ftp lense w/ lights. a little bit on the pricey side though. just wanted to know if its worth the trouble of getting one for that price.
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wow so much mis-information here.
first of all the first pic looks like the usdm ftp lenses with the headlights down shining through them. second, the jdm lenses arent glass...:scratch: third, to use them you will need to make your own wiring or tie off the stock fog light wiring if your car came with it. the only thing that is the same between the usdm and jdm lenses is their shape. everything else is different. |
Originally Posted by evileagle
They're sorta spendy, but they're also brand new OEM parts.
Originally Posted by 87 t-66
first of all the first pic looks like the usdm ftp lenses with the headlights down shining through them.
Originally Posted by 87 t-66
second, the jdm lenses arent glass...:scratch:
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Originally Posted by Juiceh
(Post 8161581)
I thought I had read that they were glass cause the bulbs would melt the plastic ones... Though I guess if they are only being used for flash to pass then they wouldn't really ever be on long enough to melt anything...
Never saw the point of these lights at all. With them in there you can no longer flash to pass, as the back of the housing is not clear. |
I've got them installed on my car. They use the same plug as the orange side markers on the front bumper. Unfortunately, if you want both to work, you'd have to tap them into that wire.
As far as brightness, they aren't bright at all. They only turn on when you turn on your driving lights, unlike the JDM cars where they actually use them as a Flash to Pass. |
Originally Posted by Icemark
The bulbs in them are small 5 watt bulbs... same thing as your side marker lights.
Never saw the point of these lights at all. With them in there you can no longer flash to pass, as the back of the housing is not clear.
Originally Posted by red_s5_fc3s
They use the same plug as the orange side markers on the front bumper.
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Here are a few pictures I took this morning for someone who was asking about the J-Spec FTP. Same car two different angles.
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The side markers on the front fenders. They plugged right into the socket. I had to choose to either have one or the other. If you want both to work, you'll have to tap them into each other.
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i dont know if they are jdm or not but i have personally seen them made out of glass. euro maybe? i dont have them but i will look for a pic of one.
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anyone ever got the J-spec FTP to work correctly.
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Originally Posted by red_s5_fc3s
(Post 8161879)
I've got them installed on my car. They use the same plug as the orange side markers on the front bumper. Unfortunately, if you want both to work, you'd have to tap them into that wire.
Originally Posted by CrazyTrini
(Post 8546637)
anyone ever got the J-spec FTP to work correctly.
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Originally Posted by Icemark
(Post 8161831)
The bulbs in them are small 5 watt bulbs... same thing as your side marker lights.
Never saw the point of these lights at all. With them in there you can no longer flash to pass, as the back of the housing is not clear. |
i have them as well. They are not bright. What i did was i took out the 5w regular bulb and put in an 2LED ultra white bulbs.
If you want to make it brighter, you could use a dremal tool, cut the back and insert reflectiv material like the silver coating in the indicator lights. or you can hardwire new bulbs and rewire using a switch and fuse. |
Originally Posted by soulja77
(Post 8547528)
or you can hardwire new bulbs and rewire using a switch and fuse.
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Ya the the first pic looks like the usdm ftp lenses with the headlights down shining through them
JDM FTPs turn on with your headlights/running lights Mine are stock JDM and plug into my JDM front harness and they turn on with my headlights/running lights. Here are pics of mine http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/74/ggfgfgn1.jpg http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/2...5082303ha6.jpg |
The JSpec FTPs are not flashing to pass. They stay on rather than the turn signals in USDM, The head lights in JSpec come up, like the 240sx n other cars with flip up to Flash to pass. But the turn signals on JSpec are just to turn not to as parking lights. The Jspec FTPs are Parking lights. If you didnt understand what I just wrote check the video out. All these Rx7 people n alot of you slacking. sad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD2VECwMmwQ Trini |
Originally Posted by Nitrometano
(Post 8160389)
but you can wire the cables to turn the lens on when you turn on your parking lights.
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I have my S4 wired so they came on with Parking lights, But I custom drilled the USDM FTPs n put bulbs in them.
http://a438.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...a1898e576d.jpg Trini |
Originally Posted by 89fc3sT2
(Post 8547752)
The JSpec FTPs are not flashing to pass. They stay on rather than the turn signals in USDM, The head lights in JSpec come up, like the 240sx n other cars with flip up to Flash to pass. But the turn signals on JSpec are just to turn not to as parking lights. The Jspec FTPs are Parking lights. If you didnt understand what I just wrote check the video out. All these Rx7 people n alot of you slacking. sad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD2VECwMmwQ Trini |
i took my usdm lense apart when i first got em, to polish em etc.. now im curious could probably make some replicas using some defuser lense and some leftover side markers
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if you reaaaaaaaaaaaly wanted to, you could use the fog lights and put them inside the ftp and then you can switch your ftps on and off with the fog light switch.
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Or you can do what I did:
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2...ototypezn1.jpg http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6420/ledftpsxp6.jpg 3 High intensity waterproof LED spotlights run to a fuse & switch. Simple, very easy to do, last nearly forever and will decimate the light output of the stock JDM FTPs and probably any other bulb you can put in there. Gonna redo my idea with 4 LED spotlights per side. When I flash to pass while behind someone they WILL see it. |
Originally Posted by Juiceh
(Post 8548655)
Or you can do what I did:
3 High intensity waterproof LED spotlights run to a fuse & switch. Simple, very easy to do, last nearly forever and will decimate the light output of the stock JDM FTPs and probably any other bulb you can put in there. Gonna redo my idea with 4 LED spotlights per side. When I flash to pass while behind someone they WILL see it. |
Juiceh that looks sick =p
i might try to replicate the jdm ones and do a write up if i can find another 240sx side marker around my house to hack up *I only have one =( http://i38.tinypic.com/wup2eq.jpg |
weeeee i jus made some replicas lmao.. went to walmart and got some $1.97 side markers..
I broke one of my ftp lense *the passanger side*, the drivers side i was able to remove the lense, but the other side, was different, i dunno if there was a difference between the lense. |
Sorry the pics are from a camara phone
http://i35.tinypic.com/dg08p3.jpg http://i38.tinypic.com/py7pu.jpg http://i37.tinypic.com/2n1zis.jpg I think they replicate the look pretty good.. for cheap too.. I put some aluminum sheeting inside to reflect the light.. It doesnt get defused too well, but from the looks of the JDM units, it looks very simular. Ill have a write up soon.. i just need to get another ftp lense so i can make the other side |
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Here is a picture of my 90 GTUs with JDM FTP installed.
You can just unplugg the side markers and plug these in. I bought mines for $110 shipped from japan. https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1221815419 |
i work at best buy :D
where did you get the 3 High intensity waterproof LED spotlights? |
Originally Posted by LAN
(Post 8160804)
Yup. I just gotta wire mine and put some fresh bulbs. This one doesn't look like it's the JDM FTP. Usually the 'real' JDM front also has diff. Driving lights. it has 2 bulbs in there from what I know and have.. Maybe the headlights reactractions are disabled. haha https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1209952836 This is actually my car....they are the flash to pass from corksport. It was fairly dark in that parking lot so that's why they look so bright. They aren't all that bright out in the daylight. |
Originally Posted by rx7fitz
(Post 8693186)
i work at best buy :D
where did you get the 3 High intensity waterproof LED spotlights? http://www.oznium.com/marine-led-spotlight |
I have read that the JDM lights were originally for the Canadian market and needed to meet their requirements for daylight driving lights. They are intended to be on all the time until you turn on your headlights and they switch off. I wonder if the US wiring harness includes a socket to attach these? If not, will an LED Driving Light wiring kit with a battery load sensor turn the unit off when the headlights are turned on. Or do you need LEDs for it to work?
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i bought a set of real JDM FTP's, and also have the wiring diagram for the JDM car.
so first off the canadian cars have some DRL thing, which i think uses the normal headlight thru the US style FTP, but i'm not really sure... never seen one, but its in the wiring diagrams, actually S5 cars might just run the foglights. so anyways, the JDM cars have a couple of small differences to the US car. the JDM FTP uses a 904 bulb, like the side marker, and it is wired in like the side marker. so the JDM car has the same 4 bulbs in the parking light circuit, it is just that it does not have the rear side markers, and instead has the FTP's. the second small difference is that the JDM turn signal uses a single filament bulb, so the turn signal is only a turn signal, and not a turn signal/parking light like the US cars got. the JDM turn signal just has 2 wires and not 3 like we got. the JDM lights are not plug and play, but it is very easy to splice them into the parking light circuit. there are a couple if disappointments, as the JDM FTP is still plastic, and the 904 bulb isn't very bright. |
I've had a pair of JDM's for years that I'm finally getting around to installing. So what I'm getting from this thread and the video is that, in regards to JDM RX-7's only, turn signal bulbs are for turn signals only, the FTP's are parking lamps and stay on when the headlights are up, and they are the same bulb and wiring as the side marker lights. Also if you install a pair in a USDM car you need to (or can) wire them up to come on whenever or however you want.
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Originally Posted by rxtuner79
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I've had a pair of JDM's for years that I'm finally getting around to installing. So what I'm getting from this thread and the video is that, in regards to JDM RX-7's only, turn signal bulbs are for turn signals only, the FTP's are parking lamps and stay on when the headlights are up, and they are the same bulb and wiring as the side marker lights. Also if you install a pair in a USDM car you need to (or can) wire them up to come on whenever or however you want.
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I found in my Maintenance Manual the reference to the Canadian DRL (Daylight Running Lights) that they are just the fog lamps wired to stay on all the time, except when the high beams are on.
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I got tired of other drivers not seeing my 'vert in the daytime and having several SUVs and other vehicles pull out in front of me. (Several close calls.)
Attachment 638373 So, I installed these Philips DayLight 8 Luxeon LED Daytime Running Lights inside the FTP lens modules by Dremmeling out the back clear lens and using mounting tape to install the LED lights. The lights fit perfectly with just a slight downward tilt due to the step in the lens module. The photo was taken on a very sunny day, so their brightness looks less intense than they are in reality. I chose these lights over other brands because of the integral heavy aluminum heat sinks in the lights. So far, I have made several 2 hour plus trips with the lights on all the time and they have remained very cool to the touch. Philips has since come out with an LED light with a light "tube" powered by a single LED bulb that I think might look better as a straight line illumination rather than the 8 spots of light. But the tube lights are more than twice the price and are not yet DOT approved. These are simple to install. You connect the wires directly to the battery terminals and the module senses the change in current when the car is started and the lights come on. (After about 2 seconds the lights go off when the ignition is turned off.) It works great! A third orange wire can be tapped into either the side marker lights or the headlights to automatically dim the DRLs when your headlights are turned on. I have not done this yet, but plan to. I imagine I will get water into the open backs of the FTP lenses, and will have to drill a drain in the front of them. So far, I haven't driven the car in the rain, so I don't know for sure. I am very happy with the lights and have not been cutoff again since I have installed them. Oh, and since they are fairly flat, the FTP still works as well. Only downside is that they make the old headlights and fog lights look very yellow in comparison. |
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