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triXx 10-22-08 01:19 AM

I haz an idea
 
Ive been trying to find a way to get rid of the stock airbox and add a lil bit of "mabee no1 has done it yet to my car" well people have done it but i have a different twist

take out the ftp lenses, and chanell them to the intake, but put a cone intake and route it using duckting from a ford pickup. that way the cone stays pretty well protected while still getting good airflow.

and suggestions/will/wontwork?

still an idea, want input b4 i take the time to hit the picknpull

88gxl btw

http://www.fordf150.net/photos/data/500/intake.jpg

basicly modifying the stock intake work for fit an rx7 seems like a decent time waster

dot_txt 10-22-08 01:38 AM

You would have a hell of a time with it considering the route of the duct work. It would almost be restrictive depending on how much you were willing to modify your car. All in all It probably wouldn't be a good use of time or energy. Plus I always thought the car looks better with the FTP lenses in.

Chuck 10-22-08 07:52 AM

^^^ +1

I don't know why the stock air box gets such a bad rep. What you're proposing would be way more restrictive than the stock box setup. Invest in a K&N drop in and you'll save yourself some hassle and some investment in Rolaids.

Aaron Cake 10-22-08 09:35 AM

The FTP lenses don't lead into the engine bay. The headlights block them.

Icemark 10-22-08 02:23 PM

http://forum.teamfc3s.org/attachment...5&d=1078466539



Yeah, how you gonna get around the headlight??? Well alone are you then cutting a hole in the wall behind the headlight?


http://forum.teamfc3s.org/attachment...6&d=1078467094

I guess the air could come in the FTP opening, go under the headlight and back up behind it... then if you cut a big ole hole behind the headlight it might flow through... just don't get hit from the side.

psychotic7 10-22-08 10:13 PM

Might just be easier to go the old fashioned way but with a twist.....use a cone filter enclosed in the ford air box and take out the windshield washer tank then cut a hole right above it and run the ducting to the brake duct....this way you have cooler air but the filter is still in the bay so no water!

triXx 10-23-08 11:51 AM

ty for all the input, ima try to sketch something up and scan it in and see wat you guys think

psychotic7 10-23-08 07:36 PM

wheres the sketch you asshole??? haha jk, the only ways i know of to get a cold air intake is to do what i mentioned above or make spacers for the radiator and make it verical so you can run a pipe beside the radiator

turbo2SE 10-23-08 07:54 PM

i did this when my car was still a s4 non turbo. i did it a little different though i used a bbk cold air intake from my 99 ford mustang gt and modded it to fit the MAF about mid way in the pipe and then i drilled a hole next to the washer fluid can .since i didnt have stock fog lights basicly the filter was right there where the brake duct used to be( the ducting was removed before i bought the car.)

triXx 10-23-08 10:48 PM

it will take me a while for the sketch, im flying up to MA for the next week so it does gimmie sunthing to do on the plane

cmanns 10-23-08 11:19 PM

I'd suggest a K&N drop in and modifying the stock intake, thats what I'm looking into atm.

from what it looks the hood seals off the "hot" side of the engine bay, just need to see if the duct sitting ontop of the rad shroud so just need to get the area of the bumper where the coolent overfill is decent supply of fresh air.

TitaniumTT 10-24-08 12:53 AM

I have an idea
 
Stop typing like a 5 year old and maybe people will take you a little more seriously.

triXx 10-24-08 09:52 AM

im sorry i type quick, and was trying to type quickly, plus, its the internet man, not meaning to start crap but what are you. the spelling nazi?

but yes im looking at everything right now, it would be kinda a pain to make what i want to do work, but i am still gunna sketch sumthin up and mabee it will work, mabee it wont

TitaniumTT 10-24-08 06:44 PM

The spelling and grammar Nazi. What are you? An 8 year old child hoping to get molested on the internet?

triXx 10-24-08 07:53 PM

actually no im a 21 year old in florida who types cuz he doesnt sti ont he comp all day and has a life outside of criticizing people online

ty have a nice day

TitaniumTT 10-24-08 08:28 PM

Quick to respond for being so busy with your incredibly active social life @ 9:00 on a Friday night. Me on the otherhand, am working on my car with a few friends and happen to have my laptop in the shop.

You still come across as an idiot when you type like that. No one can deny this

cmanns 10-24-08 08:43 PM

You can use ducting from a mustang and use a drop in k&n.

Dunno why you wanna rid of the stock intake I'd listen to TitaniumTT and "seems like a decent time waster" would be to take lessons on proper grammar and typing.

SouthSideSlider 10-24-08 09:07 PM

Don't bother arguing with TitaniumTT. about the best new intake idea i have seen i wanted to do but someone beat me to it.
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...3&d=1224651399

TitaniumTT 10-24-08 09:15 PM

It's because I am always right.








ALWAYS

rowtareh? 10-24-08 09:22 PM

Why do people try to improve air flow on a stock N/A?

cmanns 10-24-08 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by Rowtareh? (Post 8666778)
Why do people try to improve air flow on a stock N/A?

Any bit helps, I noticed a gain from switching to a K&N drop in, the easier a motor can breathe the better the performance.

I'm not saying turbos wouldn't be nice but some people can't afford to go turbo, whats wrong with doing other things in the mean time?

If your motor can breathe better, gas millage goes up too ;)


Originally Posted by SouthSideSlider (Post 8666745)
Don't bother arguing with TitaniumTT. about the best new intake idea i have seen i wanted to do but someone beat me to it.
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...3&d=1224651399

Interesting

Turbo w/FMIC and the TMIC was hacked apart to form a TMAI? Looks interesting, wouldn't suck much chilled air while cruising in the city though.

rx-711 10-24-08 11:21 PM


Originally Posted by SouthSideSlider (Post 8666745)
about the best new intake idea i have seen i wanted to do but someone beat me to it.
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...3&d=1224651399

he took the time to make that but couldnt even remove the old intake air ducting

TitaniumTT 10-24-08 11:54 PM


Originally Posted by cmanns (Post 8667014)
If your motor can breathe better, gas millage goes up too ;)

That is, under most cicumstances, a myth & advertising hype. If you're motor is getting more air, it will require more fuel to compensate for the additional air being ingested.

cmanns 10-25-08 12:02 AM

Uhm. If it can suck air easier it'll be less strain on the engine.

When I got a new exhaust and k&n drop in, the mpg went up much more, a less restrictive exhaust and better breathing intake would mean more fuel for the air being ingested, only when more is being ingested. It also would make the engine more efficient to run on the fuel/air it's burning with a less restrictive exhaust and better intake.

I'm unsure exactly, but I'm pretty sure I'm right and you're right.

TitaniumTT 10-25-08 12:32 AM

NO.
Think of an engine as a nothing more than a pump. It must pull air in and push exhaust out. By making it easier to pull air in and push air out you are freeing up power that would be used moving vacuum and pressure around and putting it to better use. The FACT is that in a feedback EMS if there is MORE air going into the engine, there is going to be more fuel needed as well. Put your stock filter & exhaust on and drive around @ WOT for an entire tank of gas, then put your upgraded parts on and drive around @ WOT and come back with the results. By allowing more air into the engine, you will need more fuel. PERIOD. The mileage increase is based on what I said above, the engine is running more effieciently and not by any real large amount when talking about a drop in filter.


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