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AE8616v 12-24-08 01:06 AM

HID lights
 
Anyone have an HID on there car. i need new headlights bad and im thinking about going with 3000k HID, wanted to see if anyone tryed it and if you have pics. i think the yellow light would look soo good or should i go with something higher like 5 or 6 k

HOZZMANRX7 12-24-08 01:28 AM

4300 will look more stock, so would be best for avoiding tickets.

But, the whole purpose of headlights is to light up the road. The lower the temperature, the better. So based on that, 3000 would be a good choice.

somebody5788 12-24-08 01:31 AM

What kind of housing are you thinking of using? HID's are really only smart to use if you have projectors to go w/ them imo. My car has projectors stock w/ I think 4300-6000 not sure HID's installed by the PO and they are great but if there in a standard housing they either melt it or just spray light everywhere blinding on coming traffic and getting you pulled over. My lights are pointed way too low and I still get drivers flashing high beams at me w/ my projectors. They can't possibly be blinding them since where there pointing I can only see about 30 feet in front of me.

shika805 12-24-08 02:24 AM

HID's... when titaniumTT gets to see this thread he will burn you haha!

whatever though, i have HID's i think 43k is good, if you do it the right way. Good luck.

TitaniumTT 12-24-08 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by shika805 (Post 8822325)
HID's... when titaniumTT gets to see this thread he will burn you haha!

whatever though, i have HID's i think 43k is good, if you do it the right way. Good luck.

;) You should've PM'ed me, I almost missed this thread


Originally Posted by somebody5788 (Post 8822272)
What kind of housing are you thinking of using? HID's are really only smart to use if you have projectors to go w/ them imo. My car has projectors stock w/ I think 4300-6000 not sure HID's installed by the PO and they are great but if there in a standard housing they either melt it or just spray light everywhere blinding on coming traffic and getting you pulled over. My lights are pointed way too low and I still get drivers flashing high beams at me w/ my projectors. They can't possibly be blinding them since where there pointing I can only see about 30 feet in front of me.

WRONG!!!!! HIDS are only good in HID housings. Any other housing, projector or not, is not going to be able to control the light emmited. You're getting flashed because you're blinding people. Get the right housings, or stop giving horrible advice.


You do realize that most HID housings have a machined base as opposed to a plastic or rubber seal. The reason is that the HID buld needs to be placed in the housing withen a certain area. We're talking thousanths of an inch. You think some piece of shit chinese e-bizzle crap can give you that kind of quality control?

Here's a Hella H9 halogen light assembly, projector none the less
http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=128
$60
Here's the HID version of that same light
http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=1255
$167

There's a VERY good reason why the same fucking assembly is nearly 3x the price.


Originally Posted by AE8616v (Post 8822229)
Anyone have an HID on there car. i need new headlights bad and im thinking about going with 3000k HID, wanted to see if anyone tryed it and if you have pics. i think the yellow light would look soo good or should i go with something higher like 5 or 6 k

If you want to look like a rice idiot with yellow or purple lights, get some fucking H4 bulbs that have been painted. This way you only look like an idiot as opposed to acting like an idiot by blinding everyone that heads in your general direction

AE8616v 12-24-08 01:16 PM

i never said anything about purple lights just thought the yellow would look cool but what ever the reason i want them is to see better cause right now i cant see more then 10 ft in front of me maybe il try just getting a better bulb cause im pretty sure they are the ebay ones, and i dont really mind him flaming the hell out of me cause he gives good advice in the progress

Boosted11 12-24-08 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 8822768)
Here's a Hella H9 halogen light assembly, projector none the less
http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=128
$60
Here's the HID version of that same light
http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=1255
$167

Did you think about looks before you posted those lamps? Circle lamps in an fc would look like ass times ten. I'm pretty sure everyone including myself would rather keep the stock lighting then put those hideous concockshuns (spell that right?) on there car.

Juiceh 12-24-08 01:54 PM

Oh boy, here we go again....

TitaniumTT 12-24-08 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AE8616v (Post 8823131)
i never said anything about purple lights just thought the yellow would look cool but what ever the reason i want them is to see better cause right now i cant see more then 10 ft in front of me maybe il try just getting a better bulb cause im pretty sure they are the ebay ones, and i dont really mind him flaming the hell out of me cause he gives good advice in the progress

No, but you did say that you wanted yellow lights becuase it looks cool... :icon_no2: I'd rather you see a little better than get more attention from some ricer punk in a civic. If you're having problems seeing, get a better H4 housing, Rallylighjs.com is a great source, and get some better bulbs. There's no need to waste money and blind people for looks when in the end you'll be decreasing yours and everyone elses visibility.


Originally Posted by Travis V (Post 8823153)
Did you think about looks before you posted those lamps? Circle lamps in an fc would look like ass times ten. I'm pretty sure everyone including myself would rather keep the stock lighting then put those hideous concockshuns (spell that right?) on there car.

:facepalm2: Right, you obviously haven't been introduced to need-a-t2's headlight conversion. Better visibility + lower pop-ups = hideously ugly.... :scratch: ummmmmmmmmmm - NO

https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1230149439


Originally Posted by Juiceh (Post 8823243)
Oh boy, here we go again....

I know, and regardless of how many times you try to give good information, maybe 1 and ten will actually listen? I get blinded driving my lifted Jeep by ricer civic punks with wrong HID conversions. Every time I pass them I wonder what tread prints would look like acorss thier forehead.

EJayCe996 12-24-08 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by somebody5788 (Post 8822272)
What kind of housing are you thinking of using? HID's are really only smart to use if you have projectors to go w/ them imo. My car has projectors stock w/ I think 4300-6000 not sure HID's installed by the PO and they are great but if there in a standard housing they either melt it or just spray light everywhere blinding on coming traffic and getting you pulled over. My lights are pointed way too low and I still get drivers flashing high beams at me w/ my projectors. They can't possibly be blinding them since where there pointing I can only see about 30 feet in front of me.

It will be blinding them if you didn't at least black out the housing. Pointing the lights down just means that more of the light emitted downward from the bottom side of the projector lens is reflecting off the chromed area on the inside bottom of the housing and going straight into everyone's eyes.

Boosted11 12-24-08 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 8823283)
No, but you did say that you wanted yellow lights becuase it looks cool... :icon_no2: I'd rather you see a little better than get more attention from some ricer punk in a civic. If you're having problems seeing, get a better H4 housing, Rallylighjs.com is a great source, and get some better bulbs. There's no need to waste money and blind people for looks when in the end you'll be decreasing yours and everyone elses visibility.



:facepalm2: Right, you obviously haven't been introduced to need-a-t2's headlight conversion. Better visibility + lower pop-ups = hideously ugly.... :scratch: ummmmmmmmmmm - NO

https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1230149439

I think i've seen that thread before just thought the lights that you posted took up the whole pop up area which would look like ass. I'm not gonna lie that setup looks pretty good, is he still selling?

Nice front bumper! I got the same just not installed yet.

somebody5788 12-24-08 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 8822768)
;) You should've PM'ed me, I almost missed this thread



WRONG!!!!! HIDS are only good in HID housings. Any other housing, projector or not, is not going to be able to control the light emmited. You're getting flashed because you're blinding people. Get the right housings, or stop giving horrible advice.


You do realize that most HID housings have a machined base as opposed to a plastic or rubber seal. The reason is that the HID buld needs to be placed in the housing withen a certain area. We're talking thousanths of an inch. You think some piece of shit chinese e-bizzle crap can give you that kind of quality control?

Here's a Hella H9 halogen light assembly, projector none the less
http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=128
$60
Here's the HID version of that same light
http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=1255
$167

There's a VERY good reason why the same fucking assembly is nearly 3x the price.



If you want to look like a rice idiot with yellow or purple lights, get some fucking H4 bulbs that have been painted. This way you only look like an idiot as opposed to acting like an idiot by blinding everyone that heads in your general direction

Do a little research before you say shit like that to me... HID's are an option on my car the projector housing's are made for them. Not to mention my housings are the euro RS4 headlights and ONLY came HID they are euro lights but have cut off's made for the right side of the road not the left so I am getting flashed by dumbass's alright? I understand what your saying about HID housings however but that was the only piece of my advice that was bad....

TitaniumTT 12-24-08 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by Travis V (Post 8823339)
I think i've seen that thread before just thought the lights that you posted took up the whole pop up area which would look like ass. I'm not gonna lie that setup looks pretty good, is he still selling?

Nice front bumper! I got the same just not installed yet.

Thanks, he'll do a batch if a few people can commit.


Originally Posted by somebody5788 (Post 8823508)
Do a little research before you say shit like that to me... HID's are an option on my car the projector housing's are made for them.



That's fucking HYSTERICAL! You lack basic terminology and you're attempting to give me attitude.


Originally Posted by somebody5788 (Post 8823508)
Not to mention my housings are the euro RS4 headlights and ONLY came HID they are euro lights but have cut off's made for the right side of the road not the left so I am getting flashed by dumbass's alright? I understand what your saying about HID housings however but that was the only piece of my advice that was bad....

Great, so they're still illegal. ECE is not DOT legal. Have fun trying to talk your way out of a ticket if you ever get stopped.

Look kid, just becuase you're not keen enough to see that I'm right, doesn't make me wrong. It makes you look like an idiot.

Projector housings are made for halogen bulbs. They are designed to create a cutoff beam.

HID housings accomplish the same thing, but they accept HID bulbs.

YOU CANNOT FIT A REAL HID BULB INTO A HOLOGEN HOUSING AND YOU CANNOT FIT A HALOGEN BULB INTO A HID HOUSING

Get YOUR shit strait before you start getting an attitude.

Soon younglin you will learn..... TTT is always right.


ALWAYS :fawk:

EJayCe996 12-24-08 04:41 PM

RS4 lights are HID projectors TTT. He has a "retrofit" where you take HID projectors and cut a huge hole into the back of our housings so the HID projector will fit in it. Since the Projector, projector lens, and the shield inside the projector that creates the cutoff do the "light control" he really doesn't have a problem.... depending on how far back or forward the projector is inside the housing. If his housing is still chromed and any part of the housing is within the path of the light emitted from the HID projector, he most certainly will have glare and he mentioned he has his projectors pointing down. But you are still right TTT because this is still technically illegal.

somebody5788 12-24-08 04:52 PM

Actually the standard A4 headlights that would be true but mine are RS4 lights and are always HID. They are also auto leveling but that portion has not been hooked up which is why they are too low right now. I get flash maybe 2x a month and I hear people saying they get it a lot w/ stock hid's it's because some drivers are just dumb. iPhone's hard to type on. Sorry if my grammer wasn't up to par for you

EJayCe996 12-24-08 04:58 PM

Yea I know how you feel, some guy on the road flipped out in front of my friend's NB Miata with the factory halogen projectors, that have a decent cutoff for what they are, as he drove on a bumpy section of road. I guess he thought we were just rolling through the airport randomly flashing our high beams for fun or something and just stomped on his brakes and stopped in the middle of the road, got behind us, and followed with his high beams on.

ICEY? 12-24-08 05:34 PM

i wish thair ws a sight where i could juster order all of it ready to be installed...

shika805 12-24-08 05:41 PM

another HID debate... always gets no where....

TitaniumTT 12-24-08 06:23 PM

:werd:


Originally Posted by EJayCe996 (Post 8823591)
RS4 lights are HID projectors TTT. He has a "retrofit" where you take HID projectors and cut a huge hole into the back of our housings so the HID projector will fit in it. Since the Projector, projector lens, and the shield inside the projector that creates the cutoff do the "light control" he really doesn't have a problem.... depending on how far back or forward the projector is inside the housing. If his housing is still chromed and any part of the housing is within the path of the light emitted from the HID projector, he most certainly will have glare and he mentioned he has his projectors pointing down. But you are still right TTT because this is still technically illegal.

To my knowledge, all HID low beams are projector by design. When someone says, "just stuff a HID bulb into a projector housing," they are 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 999999999999999999% of the time suggesting that you order some illegal rebased HID bulb to put into a halogen lamp. This is illegal. This is a bad idea. Under most circumstances it will reduce not only your visibility but the visibility of on-coming traffic. Do some research on Rallylights.com, planetHID.com, & I can't remember the other site. It's a guys name lighting.com. It was referenced in the last HID thread.


Originally Posted by somebody5788 (Post 8823617)
Actually the standard A4 headlights that would be true but mine are RS4 lights and are always HID. They are also auto leveling but that portion has not been hooked up which is why they are too low right now. I get flash maybe 2x a month and I hear people saying they get it a lot w/ stock hid's it's because some drivers are just dumb. iPhone's hard to type on. Sorry if my grammer wasn't up to par for you

That had nothing to do with your grammar....

this though :facepalm2:


Originally Posted by ICEY? (Post 8823694)
i wish thair ws a sight where i could juster order all of it ready to be installed...

I gave you the site where you can get DOT approved HID lamps, ballasts and bulbs. If you lack the sight to read, than I can't help you much. It was linked in THIS fucking thread.

HOZZMANRX7 12-24-08 07:00 PM

A few things.

1. "YOU CANNOT FIT A REAL HID BULB INTO A HOLOGEN HOUSING AND YOU CANNOT FIT A HALOGEN BULB INTO A HID HOUSING"

Not so sure about that. Although you clearly don't agree they should be used and I totally get where you're coming from, there are plenty of kits out there that provide a H4 base housing to hold an HID bulb.

2. Not a good web address when I cut and pasted your reference. Correction is....?

Planethid.com

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3. Regardless:

A thought. The primary value in my opinion is HID's to improve Hi Beam lighting. Perhaps the best compromise would be to install HID Driving lights that trigger source off the high beam. Create essentially a 4 light system? Thoughts.

ICEY? 12-24-08 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 8823782)
:werd:




I gave you the site where you can get DOT approved HID lamps, ballasts and bulbs. If you lack the sight to read, than I can't help you much. It was linked in THIS fucking thread.




thats like a build and put together site... i want something i can just fucking plug and play
SKEET!

rx7 FC TII 12-24-08 08:45 PM

http://rotary.car.club.com/rotary_fo...ead.php?t=5809

its a link to a special on HID kits.

to access the link remove the . between Rotary and Car and Club. since linking to that site is blocked even though im sending you to a HID kit that is what you would want.

fcdrifter13 12-24-08 09:46 PM

Replaces H6054s not sure if it was you guys are looking for. I am not good at lighting

http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=744

EJayCe996 12-24-08 11:19 PM


Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 8823782)
:werd:



To my knowledge, all HID low beams are projector by design. When someone says, "just stuff a HID bulb into a projector housing," they are 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 999999999999999999% of the time suggesting that you order some illegal rebased HID bulb to put into a halogen lamp.

Yup, essentially every OEM HID setup is, at the bare minimum, a low beam projector. Bixenons have an actuator that actually move the light shield in the projector housing out of the HID bulb's light path to provide uncut light and crazy visibility when you need it. I've spent so much time with the HID retro "professionals" that when someone says projector, I assume (I know I know!) that they are referring to HID projectors as there are few halogen projectors being used and everything else is just referred to as a standard housing. BTW, for those of you looking into HID projector retrofits: USE GODDAMN BIXENONS. Its a high beam / lo beam combination so you don't end up with either just a low beam setup (which, depending on where and who does your inspection, will give you a no doubt fail) or wasting extra money on a second pair of lights to use as high beams.

TitaniumTT 12-24-08 11:35 PM

Yeah I hear ya. Good info.
I liked the dual lights that need-a-t2 offered and it was slightly easier than figuring everything out with a retrofit so I just went that route.


Originally Posted by HOZZMANRX7 (Post 8823839)
A few things.

1. "YOU CANNOT FIT A REAL HID BULB INTO A HOLOGEN HOUSING AND YOU CANNOT FIT A HALOGEN BULB INTO A HID HOUSING"

Not so sure about that. Although you clearly don't agree they should be used and I totally get where you're coming from, there are plenty of kits out there that provide a H4 base housing to hold an HID bulb.

It's a re-based bulb and is illegal anyway you slice it. It's illegal because the lamps cannot properly control the light that is emmited. It blinds people and that is my biggest gripe about them. It blinds me & my eyes are a good 6' off the ground


Originally Posted by HOZZMANRX7 (Post 8823839)
2. Not a good web address when I cut and pasted your reference. Correction is....?

Planethid.com

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That's a shame. They had a lot of good information about proper HID conversions. Buying BMW or lexus or whatever OEM HID's and fitting them into other housings. They also had ballasts and harnesses and a bunch of other stuff as well.



Originally Posted by HOZZMANRX7 (Post 8823839)
3. Regardless:

A thought. The primary value in my opinion is HID's to improve Hi Beam lighting. Perhaps the best compromise would be to install HID Driving lights that trigger source off the high beam. Create essentially a 4 light system? Thoughts.

Exactely what I'm doing. I have a HID high beam and a the H9 low beam. I already have the ballasts and when other more important cripe is done on my car I'll drop the coin on the Hella 90mm moduale housings and some real DS2 bulbs.


Originally Posted by ICEY? (Post 8823903)
thats like a build and put together site... i want something i can just fucking plug and play
SKEET!

Seriosuly, how dense are you?

Step #1) Buy need-a-t2's dual headlight conversion with the Hella HID housings
Step #2) Bolt Everything on
Step #3) Wire it up
Step #4) Step back and look at your DOT legal HID conversions


Originally Posted by rx7 FC TII (Post 8823972)
http://rotary.car.club.com/rotary_fo...ead.php?t=5809

its a link to a special on HID kits.

to access the link remove the . between Rotary and Car and Club. since linking to that site is blocked even though im sending you to a HID kit that is what you would want.

Linky no worky even after removing "."


Originally Posted by fcdrifter13 (Post 8824150)
Replaces H6054s not sure if it was you guys are looking for. I am not good at lighting

http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=744

E-Code means Euro Code. Much less obnoxious than ricer HID's but still not legal according to the letter of the law. Hella makes an H4 conversion that is DOT approved. With the H4 lamp you have dozens of different choices of bulbs. As for the difference, I couldn't tell you. Call up Susquehanna, they'll be able to help you out.


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