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BrandonDriftKing 05-31-08 11:55 PM

HID Kit...
 
Kit with Hella Premium 100/80w Xenon +100% H4 Bulbs


i am about to order this but i remember seeing some posts before that 65+w burn out real quick.. should i get the 60/55w instead?

gxlbiscuit 06-01-08 12:25 AM

those are halogen bulbs paint blue they are not High intensity Discharge lamps......rice kills

younG_Gunner 06-01-08 12:42 AM


Originally Posted by gxlbiscuit (Post 8244609)
those are halogen bulbs paint blue they are not High intensity Discharge lamps......rice kills

Plus one. Real hids cost a grip. If you can't put out a few hundred for them stick with an unsealed lamp like a HELLA and some silver stars.

BrandonDriftKing 06-01-08 01:07 AM

what if i get a hella housing and then this http://www.xenithxenons.com/ProductD...Code=HID%2DKIT ?
sorry i know nothing about HIDs:)

gross polluter 06-02-08 01:24 AM


Originally Posted by BrandonDriftKing (Post 8244697)
what if i get a hella housing and then this http://www.xenithxenons.com/ProductD...Code=HID%2DKIT ?

You'll get the same light pattern as a halogen H4, and tons of glare that will make on coming traffic want to shoot you.

Halogen H4:
http://www.nsfabrication.com/pictures/DSCF3069.JPG

HID kit (same as in your link) in the exact same housing. Hot spots and glare like whoa:
http://www.nsfabrication.com/pictures/DSCF3071.JPG

What on coming traffic will see, shortly before they decapitate you:
http://www.nsfabrication.com/pictures/DSCF3072.JPG

If you're going to get H4 housings, stick to H4 halogens. If you want HID, then do a retrofit.

If you want a cheap retro, it can be done for around $100 and some fab work. I'm currently doing that right now, and trying to keep it as cheap as possible.

Projectors extracted from a 1993 J30 headlight assembly. Purchased the set on ebay for $30 shipped, along with a 9006 HID kit for $70 shipped. Once the large mounting tab on the left is removed, the projector assembly will fit in an FC headlight housing.
http://www.nsfabrication.com/pictures/DSCF3085.JPG

Light produced by said budget retrofit:
http://www.nsfabrication.com/pictures/DSCF3067.JPG

NO GLARE above the cutoff, even amount of light distributed across light pattern, much wider lighting area than an the hella H4 housing, no hotspots, no pissing off other drivers on the road. Done for much less than what it would cost to buy an HID setup from an OE application, just a tad more than a Hella H4 conversion.

siguy2k 06-02-08 01:29 AM

^How would you wire those ones in and adjust the aim?

gross polluter 06-02-08 01:35 AM


Originally Posted by siguy2k (Post 8247491)
^How would you wire those ones in and adjust the aim?

With wire, solder, heat shrink and new connectors. Aim could be the stock adjusters or my own, not that far in the project yet.

siguy2k 06-02-08 01:40 AM

^No way.... I know that i mean dont you need ballasts for hids?

gross polluter 06-02-08 01:49 AM

Yes, you do need a ballast which is included with an HID kit. The kit I'm using, as well as most other kits on ebay use a 9006 connector for the ballast. The kit I have, which is pictured with the J30 projector, includes the plug in the harness. The high beam is a halogen 9005, so a 9005 plug would be used there.

The FC harness will need to be modified to make the high beams work correctly. With the stock sealed beam, the low beam filament is turned off when the high beam filament is turned on. I don't want that with my setup, like any other dual bulb head light configuration. The low beam is simply turned on by the headlight relay, bypassing the dimmer relay. The high beam will still be controlled by the dimmer relay.

BrandonDriftKing 06-02-08 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by gross polluter (Post 8247525)
Yes, you do need a ballast which is included with an HID kit. The kit I'm using, as well as most other kits on ebay use a 9006 connector for the ballast. The kit I have, which is pictured with the J30 projector, includes the plug in the harness. The high beam is a halogen 9005, so a 9005 plug would be used there.

The FC harness will need to be modified to make the high beams work correctly. With the stock sealed beam, the low beam filament is turned off when the high beam filament is turned on. I don't want that with my setup, like any other dual bulb head light configuration. The low beam is simply turned on by the headlight relay, bypassing the dimmer relay. The high beam will still be controlled by the dimmer relay.

could you send me links for the things that you got like housing bulbs etc. please? i really dont know anything about HID's and yeah haha i like how it turned out in the bottom pic.. pm me or just post on here again either way is fine.

gross polluter 06-02-08 03:27 PM

Good reading on HID retro:

http://faqlight.carpassion.info/

zflamewing 07-02-08 08:50 PM

Another option since FC's have a single bulb for low and hi beams is a bi xenon setup. I know the Infiniti FX-35, and the Acura TL have such projectors. I am pretty sure there are others. http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/ has a lot of good info on HID goodness. As previously stated if you want to go HID doing a retrofit with actual HID projectors is the best and safest way.

88rxn/a 07-02-08 10:22 PM

icemark is/was going to do a group buy in HID's sometime.
i thought about about Ebay housings and going with silverstars for the time being. not sure yet...

Hypertek 07-03-08 03:16 AM

i wanna see how those J30 projectors come out =p
any update on that?? would be sweet for a flush headlight conversion

0verb00st 09-28-08 11:51 PM

word

R_PROWESS 10-11-10 01:17 PM

so no updates?

Shun001 10-11-10 01:31 PM

would love to see this conversion documented so maybe i could do this myself later, also a stronger alternator may be in order after conversion Y/N?

clubber 10-12-10 05:36 PM

No, you wouldn't need a stronger alternator. HID's take less power than incandesants do so you get a small reduction in power used.

Shun001 10-13-10 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by clubber (Post 10264991)
No, you wouldn't need a stronger alternator. HID's take less power than incandesants do so you get a small reduction in power used.

thanks, learn somethin new every day

siikduke 10-13-10 03:53 PM

Not to be rude or anything but you do realize that this thread is a little over two years old...

R_PROWESS 10-14-10 02:49 PM

the age of the thread is pretty irrelevant when it kinda left us hanging..

turboIIrotary 10-14-10 03:32 PM

If you guys are looking for cheap look up g1 projector.


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