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yes, and i havent said anything negative about the godspeeds. If he can save up a lil more though, he can have a little more peace of mind and step into a coilover that isnt in the "questionably cheap" bracket that the megans, d2, ksports are in. One of the hassles is always having to defend them when talking to people lol
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If the OP wants cheap, he can have it. I ended up going with Stance because they were in a good price range in addition to providing quality shock dynos. When I was researching for mine, megan, ksport, bc racing and all the very cheap coilovers hadn't made them available. I don't know if that's still the case.
I've had my Stance for over a year and about 20K miles and I'm extremely happy with the grip and adjustability. I ride with them fairly harsh, and regularly take 300+ mile trips. If roads are bad, I turn them all the way soft and it's more comfortable and better handling than stock IMO. |
The reason people are steering him away from coilovers is because if he isn't going to corner-weight and then track the car regularly, they are a waste of money and effort, and provide no real benefit beyond being able to say he has coilovers. Coilovers do not affect ride quality, the spring and shock rates (and how well matched they are) affect ride quality. That said, if you're going coilovers, you usually would go hardcore on the spring and shock rates, because you're looking for that extra edge on the track, and will sacrifice civilized ride to get it. I'm not seeing anything in the OP's messages beyond a very occasional time attack (lapping day?), and mostly street use. It is a 'vert, after all, a little heavy for a track tool, and not especially safe to go too hard on track without rollover protection anyway.
Good, off-the shelf lowering springs like the Eibach or Racing Beat matched sets, with a decent shock like Koni yellows, KYB AGX, or Tokico blues will make most people happier than low-rent coilovers that they never properly adjust anyway. |
Unless your racing in a top tier series, you dont need corner balancing.. You cant adjust shit on a shock/spring combo and more then likely not gonna be happy with 1- 1.5 drop. This is why most go for coilovers. Im sure the OP will chose whichever works for him. Honestly coilovers are not as bad as some of you guys make them out to be. The OP asked for opinions on the coilovers, not why he shouldn't go for coilovers.
Soo much easier to work on the car with coilovers, the suspension is pretty much set when you lift it. https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net..._2466790_n.jpg |
Originally Posted by rx7racerca
(Post 10750733)
Good, off-the shelf lowering springs like the Eibach or Racing Beat matched sets, with a decent shock like Koni yellows, KYB AGX, or Tokico blues will make most people happier than low-rent coilovers that they never properly adjust anyway. |
Originally Posted by Hypertek
(Post 10750297)
Im against piecing together a shock/strut combo. You have to do homework on the dampers and spring rates. You can not properly lower the car without affecting the strut travel, and potential to blow them out at a low ride hight. Typically you would want to fix the coilover sleeve to the strut somehow so it doesnt rattle around in place, you cant get it welded to the strut, thats out of the question for most.
Seriously, people make coilovers out to be the devil... even megan and godspeed track their own coilovers and put them up to the test. matching the dampers to the springs? yes, you actually are able to do it with bilstein/koni. can you do it with anything below a tien? NO! the strut travel thing true, but it doesn't apply, the wheels hit the top of the wheel well before the shocks bottom out. if you REALLY needed shorter shocks, koni and bilstein make em. it is nice to have a good fit with the coil over collar, but the car sits on it, it doesn't move coilovers aren't the devil at all, but the integrated JDM style coil overs have a couple of problems that make them just not worth doing. my friend has a 8k/6k sprung FC on koni's and it handles awesome, but it also rides better than my stock 87 GXL. the shocks are KEY to good ride quality. |
Originally Posted by j9fd3s
(Post 10751280)
that's not true at all. you KNOW the spring rates, you have even already mentioned them! 8k front and 6k rear, if you type that into google, you can get the lbs/in, ok done.
matching the dampers to the springs? yes, you actually are able to do it with bilstein/koni. can you do it with anything below a tien? NO! the strut travel thing true, but it doesn't apply, the wheels hit the top of the wheel well before the shocks bottom out. if you REALLY needed shorter shocks, koni and bilstein make em. it is nice to have a good fit with the coil over collar, but the car sits on it, it doesn't move coilovers aren't the devil at all, but the integrated JDM style coil overs have a couple of problems that make them just not worth doing. my friend has a 8k/6k sprung FC on koni's and it handles awesome, but it also rides better than my stock 87 GXL. the shocks are KEY to good ride quality. Good for your friend, he did his homework and had to order the custom parts from various suppliers Im sure. exactly my point. One reason the coilovers are low priced is because the companies generally have a few different dampers that are interchangeable, well the springs and dampers are interchangeable, only the mounts are car specific. Figure they might have A, B, C, D, E dampers and A,B,C,D,E springs, and B dampers and C springs work for the FC, etc. |
i was reading this thread because i want to lower my vert about an inch or so. i was looking at Tokico struts(adjustable or not???) and Racing Beat springs. is this what i am looking for??? this is for my DD and i dont mind a stiff ride. any input will be appreciated
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