FD rotors on a FC
The questions comes up often...
Do they fit? What does it takes to install them on a FC? I've been talking to Respeed, and they are willing to make the bracket\spacer so that we can use FD rotors on our FCs. Per Respeed, there is a problem with the FD rotors: "The problem is the ID of the rotors, 72mm on the FD verses 77mm on the FC. I know the FC rotor is tight to the FC hub so the FD (72mm) will not slide over the FC (77mm) This could be turned out but that means each new set of rotors would need machine work." Any comments? Would there be any interest from the FC guys? If there is enough interest, maybe he'll try a larger than the FD rotors and design the proper spacer\adapters for the calipers :fingersx: Pleases discuss :) |
FD rotors = S5 Turbo
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Originally Posted by YaNi
(Post 8549649)
FD rotors = S5 Turbo
FD calipers are "bolt on" supposely, rotors got different offset to fit on the hubs stock FD rotors are 294mm (11.6") mustang cobra rotors works http://www.v8rx7forum.com/v8-rx-7-bu...tml#post445114 so does these 12.75 x 1.18" rotors https://www.rx7club.com/suspension-wheels-tires-brakes-20/mandeville-style-4-wheel-big-brakes-fc-feedback-needed-739122/ I am interested in something like that but i am still looking for rotors with brakes that will fit under 16" race rims / tires fyi Joe is saying with the 12.75" rotors it'll need 1/4" to fit in 16" rims. |
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=739122
I would like to see something like frijolee's kit without the spacer needed in the caliper. I would also like to see something that doesn't require every single replacement rotor to need as few $$ worth of machining to make it fit. Something off the self would be perfect. Brembo blanks maybe? Hell a 2 piece would be awesome too. I am willing to spend the bread for aftermakt calipers though. I was told to stay away from Willwoods at all costs. Apparently they flex like CRAZY. Of course this was Brembo engineer that was telling me this. Billy can build anything, if he can figure it out, I would give it some VERY serious consideration. What options SPECIFICALLY are out there for FC's? I know about the KVR kit for $2850 but that is only the front. Add in Corksprts Rear brake kit and now we're over $3000. So - what else is out there? I know Rocklobster was itching to get a set made by FastBrakes. Anything ever happen with that? Here's KVR's http://corksport.com/store/image/a5c..._kit_4_POT.jpg |
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Originally Posted by sub9lulu
(Post 8549657)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1..._/IMG_1434.jpg |
Originally Posted by YaNi
(Post 8549649)
FD rotors = S5 Turbo
I *THINK* YaNi was talking about the engine rotors. :) |
Originally Posted by sub9lulu
(Post 8549657)
Wrong, search and come back again
FD calipers are "bolt on" supposely, rotors got different offset to fit on the hubs stock FD rotors are 294mm (11.6") mustang cobra rotors works http://www.v8rx7forum.com/v8-rx-7-bu...tml#post445114 so does these 12.75 x 1.18" rotors https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=739122 I am interested in something like that but i am still looking for rotors with brakes that will fit under 16" race rims / tires fyi Joe is saying with the 12.75" rotors it'll need 1/4" to fit in 16" rims.
Originally Posted by TitaniumTT
(Post 8549968)
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=739122
I would like to see something like frijolee's kit without the spacer needed in the caliper. I would also like to see something that doesn't require every single replacement rotor to need as few $$ worth of machining to make it fit. Something off the self would be perfect. Brembo blanks maybe? [/QUOTE]
Originally Posted by TitaniumTT
(Post 8549968)
Hell a 2 piece would be awesome too.
Originally Posted by TitaniumTT
(Post 8549968)
I am willing to spend the bread for aftermakt calipers though. I was told to stay away from Willwoods at all costs. Apparently they flex like CRAZY. Of course this was Brembo engineer that was telling me this.
Billy can build anything, if he can figure it out, I would give it some VERY serious consideration. What options SPECIFICALLY are out there for FC's? I know about the KVR kit for $2850 but that is only the front. Add in Corksprts Rear brake kit and now we're over $3000. So - what else is out there? I know Rocklobster was itching to get a set made by FastBrakes. Anything ever happen with that? Here's KVR's http://corksport.com/store/image/a5c..._kit_4_POT.jpg |
AP calipers are so tits.
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Originally Posted by YaNi
(Post 8549649)
FD rotors = S5 Turbo
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Personally, what I'd love to see is something along the lines of an 11.75" x 1.25" rotor using the stock calipers with a spacer and a re-location bracket for an inexpensive, track capable setup that fits under 15" wheels.
Originally Posted by BASTARD
(Post 8550110)
thats a little scary... why machine them down that much?
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1..._/IMG_1434.jpg
Originally Posted by TitaniumTT
(Post 8549968)
I would like to see something like frijolee's kit without the spacer needed in the caliper.
Originally Posted by TitaniumTT
(Post 8549968)
I am willing to spend the bread for aftermakt calipers though. I was told to stay away from Willwoods at all costs. Apparently they flex like CRAZY. Of course this was Brembo engineer that was telling me this.
Originally Posted by KNONFS
(Post 8550335)
The FD guys have a two piece rotors. If we could get the spacers\adapters made, not only we get an extra .125 diameter, but also the option of 2 piece rotors :)
There you go, 2 piece rotors for the FC. They do require that you machine the hubs a bit for clearance and that you grind a bit off the inside edge of the front pads to clear the fasteners, but there are certainly 2 piece rotors for FC's. |
Originally Posted by Black91n/a
(Post 8551099)
You need to machine them because the stock rotors are smaller in diameter, so have a tighter arc to them. In order to get full pad contact, you need to machine the caliper edges to match the arc from the rotor. I believe those holes are for the bolts that hold the caliper halves together, not the fluid passages, so it should be safe enough to do. You wouldn't need to machine so much if you used smaller rotors. I think if you go any bigger then it would be wise to upgrade the caliper to avoid overworking such an important part... but hey thats my personal opinion |
Yes going with calipers designed for bigger rotors would be better, but that's not exactly as budget friendly.
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on top of that there already are big brake kit with bigger rotors / calipers already
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Originally Posted by Black91n/a
(Post 8551099)
Personally, what I'd love to see is something along the lines of an 11.75" x 1.25" rotor using the stock calipers with a spacer and a re-location bracket for an inexpensive, track capable setup that fits under 15" wheels.
Originally Posted by Black91n/a
(Post 8551099)
You need to machine them because the stock rotors are smaller in diameter, so have a tighter arc to them. In order to get full pad contact, you need to machine the caliper edges to match the arc from the rotor. I believe those holes are for the bolts that hold the caliper halves together, not the fluid passages, so it should be safe enough to do. You wouldn't need to machine so much if you used smaller rotors.
The spacer is great, because it allows you to use a wider rotor that flows more air for better cooling which allows you to use smaller diameter, lighter rotors that fit the calipers better and will allow the use of smaller wheels.
Originally Posted by Black91n/a
(Post 8551099)
That would be true of the cheap, small Wilwoods, but the bigger, better, more expensive ones will be comperable to something from Brembo or the like.
Originally Posted by BASTARD
(Post 8551413)
I have taken the TII calipers apart before and understand which holes are for what... my point is... at some point the caliper is going to be overworked, lets face it... . by todays standards these calipers are pretty small and Mazda developed them originally for 276mm rotors and then decided that they could work effectively on the FD with 294mm rotors
I think if you go any bigger then it would be wise to upgrade the caliper to avoid overworking such an important part... but hey thats my personal opinion
Originally Posted by Black91n/a
(Post 8551869)
Yes going with calipers designed for bigger rotors would be better, but that's not exactly as budget friendly.
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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT
(Post 8552089)
I'd like to see a 12"+ rotor. Personal preference. You can get away with (usually) 16" wheels becuase they were stock on rx7's
its either 11.7 or 12.6, nothing in between Fuck budget friendly and the cheap kiddies who can't afford them. Why cater to people with no money that bitch over every little thing. Screw them, bigger rotor, bigger cailper (with lots of pad selection), keep it around $1000 & I'm in. go buy urself some k-sports. oh wait, u cant even get k sports for 1000 |
Budget friendly is always good, as long as you can get quality stuff that fits your needs. There's no point spending more than you have to, because then there's less left over to spend on other things.
The reason I say 11.75"x1.25" rotors is that I know that they're probably the biggest rotors you can fit under 15's (I've seen it done), and for track work, 15's are good because they're cheaper, you get a gearing advantage from sherter tires (225/45/15 for instance), and it gets you lower to the ground for less weight transfer for more grip. They're also easier to pack in the car. Even if you're running bigger wheels and tires, more power, etc, they'd still fill out the wheels a bit better and provide you with a lot better stopping power. Since I know that you're not afraid of fabrication, why not piece together your own BBK using off the shelf Wilwood parts? You should be able to do one for under $1000. |
Originally Posted by sub9lulu
(Post 8552610)
FD rotors are 11.6" if u want to use 16" wheels you'll pretty much have to keep the rotors below 12.25" but i couldnt find anything that size.
its either 11.7 or 12.6, nothing in between
Originally Posted by sub9lulu
(Post 8552610)
u want a bbk for $1000 with 12"+ rotors and caliper, yet u say not to cater people with no money
go buy urself some k-sports. oh wait, u cant even get k sports for 1000
Originally Posted by Black91n/a
(Post 8552726)
Budget friendly is always good, as long as you can get quality stuff that fits your needs. There's no point spending more than you have to, because then there's less left over to spend on other things.
Originally Posted by Black91n/a
(Post 8552726)
The reason I say 11.75"x1.25" rotors is that I know that they're probably the biggest rotors you can fit under 15's (I've seen it done), and for track work, 15's are good because they're cheaper, you get a gearing advantage from sherter tires (225/45/15 for instance), and it gets you lower to the ground for less weight transfer for more grip. They're also easier to pack in the car. Even if you're running bigger wheels and tires, more power, etc, they'd still fill out the wheels a bit better and provide you with a lot better stopping power.
Originally Posted by Black91n/a
(Post 8552726)
Since I know that you're not afraid of fabrication, why not piece together your own BBK using off the shelf Wilwood parts? You should be able to do one for under $1000.
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